the BET....flat bet system thats so far winning for me

[6th-sense]

thanks Mudiru ...its took me a long time to develop this system...patience is the key ..as warrior pointed out though you can be in for the long haul..but not all the time..its the only flat bet on the net to my knowledge that works and recovers its losses on its own with no progression..hopefully victor will have the bot ready this month to take the hard work out of it.
and yes paja time to focus on other ideas is time consuming ...its so easy to to drop one thing then look at another...this bet i never dropped but always focused and tested different options before coming to its basic bet conclusion...still doing well with ec connected to it...but testing is time consuming...the next bet next year i will focus more of my attention is the law of the 3rd but breaking the table numbers down into the order they should work in...
ie there are 36 numbers but within them they are only 10 ie the end of the number like finnials ...so 1 to 10 ...how many different end numbers out of the 10 do you see coming out in 36 spins??.....when do you bet ?  next year will tell..for now this bet is one that works under my belt but the sad thing is it will be lost in the annals of this forum under appreciated by most what they have here...

[Paja]

Ok i tested this bet with dominant color in last 5 spins.Added dominant color bet only when betting basic bet.


22B   10B   19R   30R   13B - skip first 5 numbers in session to have dominant
32R   15B  - now bet A + 10u on RED
trig.


Results:
1. -6
2. +90
3. -42
4. -100
5. +50
6. +58
7. -6
8. -174
9. +20
10. -80
Total: -192 units in 1000 real (not rng) spins
max down -174 units
max up +112


It doesen't look any more stable to me.Will check if following runs when RR/BB on virtuals gives better results.

[Nickmsi]

As my testing and all of your testing so far has shown good results, I decided to put this into a bot.

Mind you, this is RNG testing, but it has validity for testing purposes.

I tested the system by itself and linking it to two EC systems as well.

I tested it both continuously and with various profit targets and stop losses.

Unfortunately it does not always recover, in any mode. 

It has the same massive losing streaks that afflict most systems.

If you do not play it continuously, set reasonable profit and stop targets and your timing is right, you should be able to pick up a few bucks.

I really appreciate your sharing this unique system and enjoyed the journey of testing it out. 

Keep the ideas flowing . . . Nick

[6th-sense]

ie say we put our bet of 10 units on the letter c..becouse ab was our trigger ....but at the same time our trigger which is the 1st vitual was red..the 2nd virtual was also red....then the 3rd which is our actual bet maybe we should think of betting our usual 10 units on c....and 10 units on red...keeping the run .....same for 3rd result...4th result then if two of the same ec bet 10 units on the ec as well as our target letter...no tracking really just seeing what's in front of you...

ie  ab              ba          ca            cc              bc    our line
1  red         19 red      34 red     33 black        15 black   the results 
  trigger      virtual
                    +
                 2 reds in a row so when we bet for a letter c
                 we also bet 10 units on red...so we win twice
                 when the result ca 34 red comes out ..we,ve won
                 on the letter c and caught the run on red...

         ca is now our trigger for the 5th bet which will be a letter b....we now have ca red cc black so no colour to bet for but the letter b which we win...
paja this is the way i,m testing even if there is no dominant colour there....

nick didn,t know you could do bots but glad to hear you can could you upload it so i can test with it?  all my test are going quite well but would love to try your bot out

[6th-sense]

hi nick been trying your bot out that you emailed me...thanks...your programing is wrong been testing the results writing them down,,when a line is starting with a double letter or a zero that line is void your program if the 3rd trigger is there regardless of the the very 1st result bets anyway thus not in sync with the rules i laid out..on the plus side though it doesn't have massive losses and even with the settings you,ve put in the stop-loss against win ratio it still evens up wins to losses as it is...like the bot think you could adjust the settings to play properly? as i said it didn,t match results i am getting and by the sounds of it others too...
also could you take the stop loss off it and profit maybe set it for a 1000 spin sample a go so i can see where it the bankroll dips and rises to see if the rng matches live results...thanks

[Nickmsi]

Will check out your questions this weekend and advise you via email with further instructions for screen shots and explanations to debug any problems.

Nick 

[Paja]

Played by newest rules - bet 10 on red when RR or 10 on black when BB , BR/RB - no EC bet:


1. +12
2. +20
3. +46
4. -80
5. +100


Great so far, looks more stable! Max 88 units down. I'll keep testing.

[6th-sense]

thats how i,m doing it paja...but when there is no bet on the colours becouse of r/b..b/r etc i,m trying out if the odd or evens are viable just like the red and black...but always betting the 3rd and 5th bet if the trigger allows on the original system...

[Paja]

Another 5 sessions with just following RR or BB:


6. +18
7. -20
8. -48
9. -10
10. +38


So, in 10x100 spin sessions total +76 , max down -88, max up +100. Better than following dominant in last 5 spins.
Def. more stable.On to next phase with same bet as this + checking for EE/OO if we don't have color trigger.

[Paja]

1000 same spins with tweaked version - adding E/O bets when R/B trigger is not available as 6th-sense suggested:


1. +12
2. +50
3. +36
4. -90
5. +70
6. +28
7. 0
8. +2
9. 0
10. +38


Results even better! Total  +146 units. Only 1/10 sessions lost. Max down -98, max up +82.
I noticed lot of potential wins on E/O, which wasn't played at the time due to already having a R/B trigger.
What about using R/B and E/O bets at the same time when ever we can?

[soggett]

1000 same spins with tweaked version - adding E/O bets when R/B trigger is not available as 6th-sense suggested:


1. +12
2. +50
3. +36
4. -90
5. +70
6. +28
7. 0
8. +2
9. 0
10. +38


Results even better! Total  +146 units. Only 1/10 sessions lost. Max down -98, max up +82.
I noticed lot of potential wins on E/O, which wasn't played at the time due to already having a R/B trigger.
What about using R/B and E/O bets at the same time when ever we can?

What about using only E/O?
As I understand it E/O  is much stable then R/B

[6th-sense]

hi paja i did say in the quote i gave maybe use both...i have not  tested both at the same time even as you say it does provide more bets i just like to test one thing at a time 1st before i continue..so not rushing from one idea to the next....i don,t know if e/o are more stable as you can see results are not too bad...but as i said and you too are realising the ec,s seems to be holding up with the original system...you don,t need to win every 100 spins but the overall session which can take a lot of spins or a short burst to whatever reasonable goal target you set for profit...a flat bet is a good bet...a flat bet with a winning tested strategy can have a more unit value than a progressive one

[Paja]

In next 1000 spins things turned for the worse:


11. -24
12. -48
13. -66
14. -4
15. -72
16. -158
17. -16
18. -50
19. -38
20. +2


Max -184 units down, max +42 up, most of the time never went positive. No go in my book.


One thing i noticed, it looks like double letters (AA,BB,CC) tend to cluster and hit often in short bursts of spins.
It looks to me that triggers for B/R and O/E are too much universal for this type of bet. I think it depends from where
colors/odd-evens come from. Can we learn more from 2nd and 4th virtual spin?

[6th-sense]

oooh paja thats really bad results....none of mine have been that bad but we should take notice of your results ...the double letters do cluster but there is no bet to be had there i,ve been down that path before so as xxvv we,ve both discussed and tested that option last year.nicks bot has been updated and now runs with its own rng software..it too gives results like the one you have posted and is running correctley now..as i said to nick it didn,t match my results maybe becouse its rng but looking at your post it makes me wonder..we both came to the conclusion of reversing the bet and see how his excellent bot does this way..