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[IronSteel]

What I'm about to exlain is a system that has remained flawless for the last 6 months I've been using it. First of all, THIS SYSTEM WORKS FOR REAL MANUAL ROULETTE, so for all online/electronic roulette players, don't even bother criticizing. Second of all, I want to thank guys like JohnLegend, iggiv and many others that have contributed a lot to this roulette player community, which I've been reading a lot recently and I feel like I want to contribute to the community too.

Facts about my system:

It's effectiveness is based on the 111 Law, which says that in 3 rounds of 37 spins all numbers should have appeared similar ammount of times.

How the system works:

1. You write down a small chart with numbers 1-9 / 10-18 / 19-27 / 28-36.

2. You have to wait for the first 37 spins and start counting how many numbers appear within the range of the four groups of numbers aforementioned. In other words, you count how many numbers from 1-9, 10-18, 19-27, 28-36 have appeared. In 99% of times, these numbers WON'T appear equally, so, for example you will have:

Numbers from 1 to 9: a total of 12 times
Numbers from 10 to 18: a total of 9 times
Numbers from 19 to 27: a total of 8 times
Numbers from 28-36: a total of 5 times
0/00: 3 times.

3. IF and ONLY IF we have a group of numbers that have appeared 5 times or less, we start betting to those numbers. NOTE: this is a very important part of the session because it depends on the player's budget, some will want to play every single number, some will play streets, etc.

How I play it, i bet on streets. On our example:

28 - 29 - 30 (1 chip)
31 - 32 - 33 (1 chip)
34 - 35 - 36 (1 chip)

4. THE PROGRESSION: The FOLLOWING PROGRESSION MUST BE played NECESSARILY after our first lost, until our balance is positive again:

28 - 29 - 30 (2 chips)
31 - 32 - 33 (1 chip)
34 - 35 - 36 (1 chip)

28 - 29 - 30 (2 chips)
31 - 32 - 33 (2 chips)
34 - 35 - 36 (1 chip)

28 - 29 - 30 (2 chips)
31 - 32 - 33 (2 chips)
34 - 35 - 36 (2 chips)

28 - 29 - 30 (3 chips)
31 - 32 - 33 (2 chips)
34 - 35 - 36 (2 chips)

And so on until we have a positive balance.

5. You must be wondering what to do if after the first 37 spins we dont have a group of numbers with 5 or less hits, so here's what needs to be done. We have to wait for another 37 spins and keep adding to our chart the ammount of times numbers from each group keep appearing.

After spin # 74, our chart should be something like this:

Numbers from 1 to 9: a total of 22 times
Numbers from 10 to 18: a total of 15 times
Numbers from 19 to 27: a total of 19 times
Numbers from 28-36: a total of 14 times
0/00: 4 times.

As one can see, numbers from 1-9 won't appear more than 5-6 times in the next 37 spins (it would be VERY rare), and numbers from 10 to 18 and from 28 to 36 will have a higher appearance rate, so we CHOOSE on of those groups and start our bets as explained before.

5. CASH MANAGEMENT: I play this system until i earn 20 chips (5$ each), which most of the times happens within 3-4 hours of play. It is VERY, VERY IMPORTANT that you don't set a high ammount of chips to win and try to become "rich" in only one session, as we all experienced gamblers know, the longer we play, the higher the chance to lose to the Casino's odds.

6. To all those who might say "oh, this system takes a long while to be played, how boring, etc.", well, if you are (or want to be) a professional roulette player, you can't expect to win ALWAYS within first 1 or 2 hours of play. If you're willing to be a professional player, you have TO SPEND TIME until certain circumstances for you to have a better chance of winning. If these circumstances aren't given, you will have wasted TIME BUT NOT MONEY.

7. If someone will try to test my system in some kind of software, I will just care less about it's results. If you want to test this system, USE ONLY REAL ROULETTE NUMBERS.

It's only because of my most sincere intention to contribute to this community that I decided to share this.

Miguel

[tonynewlife]

can you please explain the second part of the system (next 37 spins) i wasn't sure what to bet on in the second part.  also, in your progression i see you bet more chips on a certain street and I wasn't why you did that.

thank you in advance

[IronSteel]

Thank you tonynewlife for your reply, which will allow me to give more details about my system in case there's other members who didn't understand it properly.

The second part of the system:

We wait for the first cycle of 37 spins. If our chart doesn't show a group that has had 5 or less hits, we wait for another cycle of 37 spins (this will make a total of 74 spins). If our chart shows after spin # 74 that one group has had the lowest appearance rate compared to the other three groups (for example, group of 1-9 has appeared 8 times and the other three groups has appeared 20 or more times each) we bet on the group with the lowest appearance rate. If after 74 spins our chart shows that two groups have had a lower appearance rate compared to the other two groups (this is the scenario which happens more often), we choose one of the two groups with the lower appearance rate and bet on it.

According to the 111 Law, in 3 cycles of 37 spins all numbers should appear at least 1 time (except 1 or 2 numbers that may be "asleep" for a longer period) and most of them will have appeared in similar ammout of times. Being that so, no matter which of the two groups with the lower appearance we choose, as long as our group appears at least 20% of times within the next 37 spin cycle we will win.

The progression:

The progression i've exposed is an alternative to the old, classic and condemned to fail Martingale / D'Alambert progression. It's effectiveness consist that we make our bankroll last much longer since we won't double our bets after each spin on our desperate desire of getting back to a positive balance with just 1 hit. This progression lets our bankroll last long enough for us to catch the appearance of our group of numbers in case they take a bit long to appear.

You add +1 chip to one of the streets after each spin, until our balance is positive again. Which of the strees we choose to add the +1 chip first, depends on us. There's not any reason why to add the +1 chip on a definite street first, the idea is to make our gameplay simple.

More facts about my system:

After studying and testing a bulk of systems throughout the years, I arrived to the conclusion that the only key that can help us "control" random and can give us hope to beat the roulette's odd advantange (plus the dealer's training to control the spins within certain sectors of the wheel) is the Law of the Third and the Law of the 111 spins (which is also based on the law of the third).

I figured out that no matter which numbers we choose to play, with a proper progression we will always win as long as our numbers get hit at least 6 or 7 times within any 37 spin cycle. But there's a risk: if our numbers appear 5 or less times in a 37 spin cycle, our cash exposure will be too high and we may even lose our bankroll. So, in order to counter that risk and to play in a "safer" way, after many many months (and years) of study, I came to this. It took me a lot of time of thought and testing until I decided to try it out in real. I haven't lost a single session ever since. NOTE: as explained before, we need to set a certain ammount of chips we want to win. Knowing when to stop is the key to ANY system.

[tonynewlife]

thank for the explanation.  you said:  "if our numbers appear 5 or less times in a 37 spin cycle, our cash exposure will be too high and we may even lose our bankroll. So, in order to counter that risk and to play in a "safer" way, after many many months (and years) of study, I came to this. It took me a lot of time of thought and testing until I decided to try it out in real. I haven't lost a single session ever since."

what is that safer way u are referring to?  the system u have just explained? or is there more to it we should know about?

Also, what's you winning goal for each session?

thank you

[unre4lbg]

Thats verry interesting system! Thanks for sharing!
Can i ask, what was you longest loosing streak and how often does it occur?

Thanks

[amk]

Hello IronSteel,

Welcome to the forum!

I'm lucky to have found your thread. Thank you for sharing this great method and for taking the time to help. This method along with Katillas, Omniwiz's and VLS's latest are the best I have seen in while.

Inspiring method.

[GLC]

IronSteel,

I like your grit.


I like your system.


I like your willingness to share.


I like your .....


You get the message.


GLC

[GLC]

It does seem like the purest way to play the system is to bet on straight up numbers. 


Playing on a real wheel in a live casino could get pretty spendy.  But if you play a live wheel on the internet with some of the low minimums you should be okay.


Let's see.  If I play on my quarter airball machine.  That's 9 quarters distributed 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.  If I lose I go to 2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.  If I lose again I go to 2-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 etc...  Since I can bet up to 100 quarters or $25.  I can go all the way to 11-11-11-11-11-11-11-11-11.  That's 99 quarters.  I would say that should give me a pretty wide range for having some hits.


Is my reasoning correct?


GLC


P.S.  I would say that this has a pretty good chance to win since it is based on the same idea as Flatino's  "Promised Constant Winning Bet" which has proven to be one of the best systems ever.

[iggiv]

IronSteel, sounds very good! bravo! i am impressed

[MrJ]

It does seem like the purest way to play the system is to bet on straight up numbers. 


Playing on a real wheel in a live casino could get pretty spendy.  But if you play a live wheel on the internet with some of the low minimums you should be okay.


Let's see.  If I play on my quarter airball machine.  That's 9 quarters distributed 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.  If I lose I go to 2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1.  If I lose again I go to 2-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 etc...  Since I can bet up to 100 quarters or $25.  I can go all the way to 11-11-11-11-11-11-11-11-11.  That's 99 quarters.  I would say that should give me a pretty wide range for having some hits.


Is my reasoning correct?


GLC


P.S.  I would say that this has a pretty good chance to win since it is based on the same idea as F_LAT_INO's  "Promised Constant Winning Bet" which has proven to be one of the best systems ever.

Question for you......we have the same game here as well. We only get a few seconds (I think 40 seconds?) between spins. Will you have enough time to KNOW your bets and keep track of what's what and place bets? I usually find, the more numbers involved, the greater the chance for mistakes OR not enough time. Will this be another method that only looks good on paper? Turbo had a TON of methods like that.

Ken

[weddings]

hey TS what is the bankroll required for this?

[weddings]

sorry but I read your thread again.

1-9: 12	22	10
10-18 9	15	6
19-26 8	19	11
27-36 5	14	9

what do you mean by 1-9 appeared 8 times isnt it 10 times and where did you get 20times for the other groups? I see 6,11,9.

[unre4lbg]

ok so im trying this system now and i have some questions.. so :

When i loose and go 2-1-1 , 2-2-1. 2-2-2. 3-2-2 etc. and then, when i win i dont recover my whole loss. For example -> from 10 Euro i would have recovered 7. So when that happens, do you continue your progression till the next win ( You win at 3-3-2, recover 7 Euros out of 10 total, you go on with 3-3-3)  OR you stop and start at the beginning with 1-1-1 ?

And when u have a group that occured 5 ot less times, after u start betting and after u win, how many times do u bet that group again or u start to record another 36 spins?

I hope u understand my questions, in not native speaker .

Thanx for sharing the system again! It looks promising!

[GLC]

Question for you......we have the same game here as well. We only get a few seconds (I think 40 seconds?) between spins. Will you have enough time to KNOW your bets and keep track of what's what and place bets? I usually find, the more numbers involved, the greater the chance for mistakes OR not enough time. Will this be another method that only looks good on paper? Turbo had a TON of methods like that.

Ken

You're probably right Ken.  I was just thinking of a way to play it optimally.


Of course we could break it down like Flatino did into 9 each 4 number groups.  Then all we have to do is bet 4 numbers.  If it works for 9 number groups why won't it work for 4 number groups?


Heck, why not break it down to 2 number groups?  Maybe too much tracking deciding what to bet? 


Actually, if it works on 4 each 9 number groups, why won't it work on 3 each 12 number groups or even 2 each 18 number groups.  This is the question I always ask myself with any system.  "If it works on a certain group of numbers, why won't it work on any group of numbers?"  All we have to do is adapt the number of spins for tracking and adjust the trigger for betting etc...


I often try to adapt a system to other locations on the table or wheel to see if I like playing the idea on a different bet location.


But it's a point well taken.  Getting too complicated and trying to play in a real casino is a recipe for making big mistakes that just frustrate you.  Any you know what can happen if you get frustrated.


LOL,


GlC

[IronSteel]

To tonynewlife:

The complete quote you made should be “I figured out that no matter which numbers we choose to play, with a proper progression we will always win as long as our numbers get hit at least 6 or 7 times within any 37 spin cycle. But there's a risk: if our numbers appear 5 or less times in a 37 spin cycle, our cash exposure will be too high and we may even lose our bankroll. So, in order to counter that risk and to play in a "safer" way, after many many months (and years) of study, I came to this”. So the answer to your question is yes, I designed my system in order to eliminate the chance that we choose the “wrong” group (lower than 5 appearances). Also, like explained above, I play to win 20 chips of 5$ value.

To unre4lbg:

I can’t remember exactly how much was my highest losing streak before my number’s got hit, but I’ve never been close to lose my bankroll (200 chips).

To AMK:

Thank you for the welcome 

To GLC:

You’re reasoning is correct. Betting on straight up numbers is also a great way of playing the system. I used to play like that (1$ chip value) for a while but I, personally, have trouble setting my winning amount of chips when they’re of low value, so if I played straight up numbers at 1$ value I would want to win 100 chips, which is very greedy. But of course, you can play straight up numbers and set a lower winning top.

Myself, I haven’t tested my system in online roulettes, of course you can try that and it’ll be great if it helps you, but as explained on my first post I designed this to work in real live  wheels.

To Iggiv:

Thank you. Although, what makes a system good is that it works not only for one player but for all of us 

To MrJ:

Since I bet on streets, it takes me less than 10 seconds to place my bets once the dealer started to spin. Also, placing bets on straight up numbers won’t take you less than 40 seconds since numbers are all next to each other in the board. To make it easier you can keep track of your current balance by writing (-3, -4, -5 …) on your sheet so you will always know what your next bet should be.

This method doesn’t look good only on paper. If you ever decide to play it, you will see it for yourself.

To Weddings:

I use a bankroll of 200 chips 5$ value. I don’t think there’s a definite bankroll to play this system, the idea is that it lasts long enough for you to get your numbers hit. Like explained to unre4lbg, I’ve never been close to lose my bankroll.

To your second post,

"1-9: 12      22   
10-18 9      15   
19-26 8      19   
27-36 5      14"   

This is the track of how many hits each group has had in my example on my first post (you’re forgetting to add the 0/00 appearance, that would complete 37 spins in the first round and 74 spins in the second round).

On your question “what do you mean by 1-9 appeared 8 times isnt it 10 times and where did you get 20times for the other groups?” This was another example in order to explain my system with more details to tonynewlife. It has nothing to do with my example on the first post.

To unre4lbg:

I play the progression until my balance is positive again. But, for example if you’re only -2 or -3 in your balance and you would have to place bet 4-4-4 on the next one, you can choose to start over with 1-1-1. Depends on you.

I’ve never thought of re-playing my system once I’ve won my 20 chips. But if I would want to, I would start all over in a different wheel, if you know what I mean.

To GLC:

So, why 9 numbers and not 12, 18, 4, 6, etc?

The reason I chose 4 groups of 9 numbers each, is that choosing larger or smaller groups would make it much harder to find which one has the lower appearance rate. You can sure try to play with larger or shorter groups of numbers, but my system is designed to be played with 9 numbers as they represent the 25% of numbers on the wheel (forgetting the 0) and it’s easier to spot the lower appearance group like this than with a larger or shorter group. Certainly, when i did my initial testings, i also thought of catching larger -up to 12 numbers -or shorter groups -6 numbers-, but it didn't work as i would want to. 

To everyone:

I’m glad people are trying to think of different ways of playing my system and testing it on their own, that’s the reason why I brought it to this forums. As explained before, this system is mainly designed and has only been tested by me in real wheels, but i’d be glad to know that it works for all of you in the online roulettes as well. Feel free to keep asking me anything you’d like, I will keep sneaking the forums every now and then.

Good luck to all