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opinions please

Started by Skakus, May 14, 05:57 AM 2012

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warrior

Quote from: GARNabby on Jun 10, 10:21 AM 2012
Believe whichever you want.

But realize that it's a lot better to (really) be unpopular for a little while, and great for a long time; than (falsely) popular for a little while, and a "zero" in the long-run.

And that that sort of thinking isn't a zero-sum game, loosely speaking.  As many such-interesting discoveries may be made by any one, as by every one, in a population.
The ? has nothing do do  with being popular,or unpopular ,its either yes or no ,if yes then why be so negative in all your answers in the game ,we all know its a negative exp. game,and if no what the hell are you wasting your time here for i just don't get it.heres on for you since your onE a philosophy mode ,in life you must flow with the go ,an go with the flow,you put water  into a cup it becomes the cup you put water into a teapot it becomes the teapot BE WATER MY FRIEND ,WE ALL KNOW THAT THE GAME IS RANDOM,BUT SO IS LIFE.

Johnlegend

Quote from: warrior on Jun 10, 10:43 AM 2012
The ? has nothing do do  with being popular,or unpopular ,its either yes or no ,if yes then why be so negative in all your answers in the game ,we all know its a negative exp. game,and if no what the hell are you wasting your time here for i just don't get it.heres on for you since your onE a philosophy mode ,in life you must flow with the go ,an go with the flow,you put water  into a cup it becomes the cup you put water into a teapot it becomes the teapot BE WATER MY FRIEND ,WE ALL KNOW THAT THE GAME IS RANDOM,BUT SO IS LIFE.

Warrior its a complete waste of time with someone who thinks like he does. If you gave him a method like your excellent Hybrid DC4. And said go and paper test this. Prove to YOURSELF. That it can beat the game longterm. He would have all the excuses as to why he shouldnt.

Such people will never change, such is the world we live in. Some people can't change.

Still

I'm going to classify this as 'WizardOfOdds Syndrome'. 

The WizardOfOdds is the most popular personality on his own website.   Some readers really enjoy his no-nonsense approach to numbers.  When readers agree, it makes them feel like they are grounded in reality, which is important for so many who really aren't sure what is real.  Some of us know enough math to pose as some kind of 'WizardOfOdds' on other websites, besides the one where the WizardOfOdds is popular.  Whether the result is fame or infamy, it's very tempting to get high on the endorphins that come from getting attention in the name of "reality", which is kind of like a competition amongst members of an insane asylum as to who is most sane, and therefore the most authoritative.  Posing as a kind of WizardOfOdds where such a viewpoint is not likely to be popular in the positive sense is an attention getting mechanism (AGM) that plays up to the i-am-more-grounded-in-reality-than-you-are game.  It's a holier-than-thou game of academic superiority. 

There's another word for this: troll;trolling.

If Parrondo listened to trolls, he never would have begun the research that resulted in his "Paradox", which plays randomness against a losing game to come up with a winner.  In this forum, there are researchers with similar curiosity about the here-to-for little known possibility that random can be played against random - or against some kind of symmetry - to come up with a winning game of roulette.  Some of us feel they already know the answer to this.  Others don't.  A troll does not know, but believes he knows.   Listening to trolls reminds me of what it's like to listen to someone who believes he can find answers to life's most difficult questions at the bottom of a bottle.  It's annoying unless the listener is equally as drunk.   

I would invite GARNabby to sign up at the WizardOfOdds website and be a member of good standing.  But alas, the Wizard would likely outshine him, and that would be no fun.  Here, anyone can be half the Wizard and appear to be a God of Numbers.  That's more fun, depending on how you get your jollies.   


TwoCatSam

Why would one need a wizard of odds for roulette?  The odds are fixed.  I don't get it.
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Tamino

CarNabby does not play in casinos or anywhere . He once lost big at baccarat. All  he  does  is open his mouth  and blabber  plagiarized  wisdom on  various  gambling websites.

His  posts are not within context of the topic. I am surprised nobody here has caught on  yet.

T.

GARNabby

Quote from: Still on Jun 10, 05:47 PM 2012
I would invite GARNabby to sign up at the WizardOfOdds website and be a member of good standing.  But alas, the Wizard would likely outshine him, and that would be no fun.  Here, anyone can be half the Wizard and appear to be a God of Numbers.  That's more fun, depending on how you get your jollies.
Ah, the newbies to these boards.

That response in general; and this, to what in specific, i can't begin to fathom... the furthest from what actually played out at that board.

At least try to do your "homework" first, lol.

GARNabby

Quote from: warrior on Jun 10, 10:43 AM 2012
... then why be so negative in all your answers in the game.
That's why i let that response (of mine) up to you.

So that you could categorized "mine" (from yourself), as negative in some sort of vague manner.

If only you guys could play so-fluently as youze so-strive with your lame "comebacks" here.

GARNabby

Quote from: Tamino on Jun 10, 06:57 PM 2012
CarNabby does not play in casinos or anywhere . He once lost big at baccarat.

At least, i'm not a LIAR.  Say, like you, Nathan.

Quote from: Tamino on Jun 10, 06:57 PM 2012
All  he  does  is open his mouth  and blabber  plagarized  wisdom on  various  gambling websites.

I think that it's spelt, plagiarize.  Yes, that's it.

No one has "served up" more, and better, original insights into these games.  Of course, no one in his/her right mind gives up the real-money stuff.  (Always amusing to see the, "I not going to post anymore, will send it PM," bemoanings.)

You can't give away even anything, it appears.  You can "test the waters" here, and there, but the "misery loves company" stampede always seems to "rear its head".  No "skin off my back".

But that's okay, takes a lot less time to respond to the real trolls.

GARNabby

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 10, 06:48 PM 2012
Why would one need a wizard of odds for roulette?  The odds are fixed.  I don't get it.
Like if you bring a squirt gun to a gun-fight, you would know enough to keep your mouth shut.

The easy reason that all but the desperately-poor of our societies just don't give these games a second glance.

Still

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 10, 06:48 PM 2012
Why would one need a wizard of odds for roulette?  The odds are fixed.  I don't get it.

My point was that some of us get off on pretending to be the WizardOfOdds of roulette...on being some kind of God of Numbers that waits underneath the bridge that overcomes the odds, and comes out to discourage those who would cross that bridge from crossing.  That's what trolls do. 

My other point was that even though the odds were fixed in Parrodo's research, he was able to play random against those odds and produce a winner from two losers.   The only question left is whether or not there is some similar principle that is able to overcome the fixed odds inherent to roulette.  No one will ever know if we were all to listen to trolls who are more interested in the endorphins that rush to their head whenever they can posture as superior among inferiors (ie. newbies etc) while postulating plagiarized platitudes from the patriarchs of probability poop.   


Still

Quote from: GARNabby on Jun 10, 07:28 PM 2012
Like if you bring a squirt gun to a gun-fight, you would know enough to keep your mouth shut.

The easy reason that all but the desperately-poor of our societies just don't give these games a second glance.

GARNabby reminds me of an uncle who was a professor at a large state university who either did, or almost obtained tenure after so many years of being on top of the game of computer science specializing in database management.  Probably GARNabby never even got that far anyway.  But what happened to my uncle is he got to drinking a little too much, and got to dwelling too much on the politics of academia and it made him bitter and silly, despite his abilities with numbers.  And in his stupidity, he started to get his jollies by actually writing inflammatory letters to his sisters children, one in particular (a brother).  These letters were so obviously flames that my brother succeeded in getting a restraining order.  That uncle eventually lost his position at the university (or was in the process of losing his position) and eventually ended up checking in to a psychiatric facility.  The tone of GARNabby's letters here remind me of the tone of that uncle's letters way back when.   Pure snobbery, distilled down to 100% proof asinine.   

TwoCatSam

That made me feel better.

Thanks, Still!

Samster
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

iggiv

i also feel some unhealthy change in Garnabby, he used to post some practical info some time ago and was  really neutral and calm on subjects, something changed since then. Pure negativity instead now. Sometimes i am lost in his negativity flow. I feel negativity but kinda lose an idea what it is all about. About roulette or society or some forum members.

warrior

Quote from: GARNabby on Jun 10, 07:08 PM 2012
That's why i let that response (of mine) up to you.

So that you could categorized "mine" (from yourself), as negative in some sort of vague manner.

If only you guys could play so-fluently as youze so-strive with your lame "comebacks" here.
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