Do you ever feel like the casino cheats?

[6th-sense]

i,m not blaming them if i lose or if i win...but i saw what i saw with my own eyes...

[ausguy]

6th- Looks like they might be able get away with it because they operate in Latvia? The "baby Doll" dealers do their part in distracting the players focus on the wheel.

I also notice that the ball runs across the wheel inside the numbers a lot and a long way too?
I haven't seen that so much elsewhere?

Also Steves canvassing for info. on William Hill as there's a possiblity of WH advertising on these forums?
I'm certain he'd be interested to learn about what you saw 6th? 

[GARNabby]

... fixed definatley..but we all still play .

Quite wrong on both counts.

Cheating is a last resort.  But they never cheat the very-few rich who play.

[vile]

--I could name here about 180 rigged casinos/names,addresses,cities/ in about
25 EU countries which I have visited in last 2 years,and only several that are not,
but these things are not for forums,not to spread info further to others.
Just be cautious when you visit these local casinos....that's all.

[ausguy]

Vile - What do you know/think about William Hill in Latvia?

[Johnlegend]

I have played a certain casino quite a few times and watch the numbers on the wheel. Then I notice certain groups of numbers come up a lot, but when I start playing them, they refuse to hit. When I have to use the restroom, I hurry up so only 1 number has a chance to hit and it's my number. It happened 5 or 6 times like that over the course of a few months. Then I get back to the table and start playing those numbers again and they refuse to hit. Now I'm thinking someone up in security is having a huge laugh watching me in the camera. And they manipulate it so my number hits when I'm gone. Also, those boards that light up previous numbers are almost always incorrect. Sometimes it shows 10 reds in a row and people who haven't played at the table place a large amount on black, when in fact black hit only 1 or 2 spins beforehand.

One time, I was playing only one number and the ball stopped over my number like it was super glued and spun around the wheel like 12 times directly over my number as if it were about to drop it and for no reason popped out and went into another number.
Sometimes I feel like the casino is cheating. Do you ever feel that way?

Ask yourself this question. If there is a table with 10 people all playing on different parts of the layout. One of those players has 50 units on number 7 and someone has 2 units on Dozen 2. Who are they likely to cheat against?? A players greed can often put them in more trouble than just against random itself. The smart way to go about it, is snatch a win here and a win there then go off the radar. Dont make a noise. Come in get your profit then go. Do that and you will only have to worry about random. Which as we know is enough to be dealing with anyhow.

[Johnlegend]

There is often the appearance the wheel is doing something fishy.  Did you ever notice that it is always when the wheel is beating you?  I've never heard anyone complain about eleven reds in a row when they were betting red.

The wheel/RNG just does what it does.  You/I then interpret what we saw.

I really don't think they cheat.  You can see the boogeyman behind every tree if you look for him.

Sam

Well said, we feel the world is against us when we are losing. I've seen players baying for the dealers head on a plate because they can't believe the ball landed on evens 17 times in a row for example. Such players don't have a clue about randoms ebb and flow. The breakdown of the results for the methods I use tell me theres nothing fishy going on where ive played including Latvia 6th sense. Only players who have poor methods and even poorer judgement losing over the long run as they are expected to. Will whinge its a fix.

But like I said even if there was a dodgy casino they will cheat against the loud greedy foolish players not the quite unasuming ones who are barely there for 10 minutes laying small bets..

[vile]

Playing for 10 min.....??

When you travel round looking for a correct wheel,
spending lot of dough on fuel,food,hotels...then you
come there to  refund these and win some more.
But you quite right about other things said.
Avoid playing in small private local casinos,
Poland,Chec.rep.,Slovakia,Latvia,Ungary,Romania,
Bulgaria,Serbia,Macedonia,Bosnia,Croatia,Monte Negro,
casinos on borders of Slovenia/Austria,Slovenia/Italy,
Italy/Austria,Slovenia/Croatia,Austria/Chec.rep.,
Poland/Germany.

[TwoCatSam]

Just saw this on Dublin.

How often do you see 5 4 3 2 in perfect order?

Sam

[Proofreaders2000]

The fact all casinos have unfair payouts in their games makes them dishonest by nature.

That said, it is very important for bettors to do their research: reputations of casinos, what other gamblers say about a casino and how they were treated.  This way even if you lose you feel you lost fairly.

[Juiced91]

Just saw this on Dublin.

How often do you see 5 4 3 2 in perfect order?

Sam

I tried to make a system using that theory as how often does it happen. And lets just say rather often.

[6th-sense]

we should agree to disagree jl...i didn,t say i was losing or whinging...i just stated upon the evidence i saw with the wheel stopping as it did and starting and stopping?...nothing was mentioned about me losing or blaming some god or a dodgy dealer..just the wheel....if a wheel stops dead like that there has to be a reason....the reason is not someone playing badly if that was the case every wheel in the world would stop....it was not a hallucination....just stating a simple obvervation.....players do winge and blame everthing apart from themselves..i,m not one of them the buck rest with me..
i,ve also seen it quite a few times the order of numbers coming out not 4 in a row but 3....also seen 18 reds and blacks at varied points come out in a row nothing unusual...i,ve seen things that ive bet on amaze me coming in constantly...but never ever a wheel stop like that...
i,m not a winger jl i,m a worker

[ausguy]

2 cat - Yes it shows what can come up. What are the odds of that and what are the odds of it occuring again this year?

I was playing Smart Live live dealer last week and 6 orphans came up in a row. The numbers were 9R, 6B, 14R, 20B, 17B & 14R. What are the odds on that one? The dealer bird got excited about it?

I didn't because I wasn't on any of them.

[tao2503]

Playing for 10 min.....??

When you travel round looking for a correct wheel,
spending lot of dough on fuel,food,hotels...then you
come there to  refund these and win some more.
But you quite right about other things said.
Avoid playing in small private local casinos,
Poland,Chec.rep.,Slovakia,Latvia,Ungary,Romania,
Bulgaria,Serbia,Macedonia,Bosnia,Croatia,Monte Negro,
casinos on borders of Slovenia/Austria,Slovenia/Italy,
Italy/Austria,Slovenia/Croatia,Austria/Chec.rep.,
Poland/Germany.

Hello,
I'm from Slovenia, and I'm interested, what do you mean with above, I'm not playing any BM rouelette here in Slovenia, altough I have quite a few here 10 minutes away. I only play live online and BV... so far my bankroll is around zero.... So are you saying that BM roulette in Slovenia are cheating... just intrested if I go and play BM live....

Happy spinning
Jani

[TwoCatSam]

ausguy

I actually don't know what an "orphan" is!!  I have never studied the "racetrack".

Anyway, I just thought it was an oddity.  If it had hit one, then zero I feel my computer would have blasted off!

TCS