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****CODE 4 REVERSE ATTACK****

Started by Johnlegend, May 21, 05:00 PM 2012

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sniper

Hello Guys,


This is my first 3 games at B&M casino.I don't know if I handled the zero correct. Please comment.




1xxx
3xxx
2xxx
1xxx
3xxx
1xxx 1st trigger
1xxx
2xxx 1st trigger
1xxx
2xxx 1st trigger
1xxx 2nd trigger
2xxx  L1
3xxx  L2
0xxx  L3
1xxx  L5
2xxx  L7
2xxx  skip because of zero above
1xxx  W20                                           +2
2xxx
2xxx
3xxx 1st trigger
3xxx 2nd trigger
1xxx  L1
3xxx  W4                                             +3
3xxx
2xxx 1st trigger
1xxx 2nd trigger
2xxx  L1
3xxx  L2
0xxx  L3
3xxx  L5
1xxx  L7
3xxx  skip because of zero above
2xxx  L10                                           -28


Seriously I don't know if I handled the zero according to the system. Please help!


Regards

iggiv

Sorry, Skakus, i don't mean to offend u, but in my point of view u don't understand something about roulette. Any method in roulette (i don't mean physical VB or bias) is gonna lose if played long enough. JL uses hit-n-run, he said it himself. Any pro knows that using the same method for too long time is a way to disaster. Any consistent patterns are killed by roulette in a long run.

Well, we already talked about it, it is now again the same story.


Quote from: Skakus on May 21, 08:09 PM 2012
I can't really understand why there needs to be big breaks, I would think you will miss just as many good times as bad.

Robeenhuut

Strike rate so far looks good in 100 games. We need of course much more testing. About covering 0 i would cover it if the progression is shorter than 4 steps. I would cover it here in the last step because 0 has an annoying habit of hitting on your last step  ;D
Generally its good idea. Waiting few virtual loses might give you an extra edge. You can expect in this type of betting to go 12 steps once every few hundred games. I expect a strike rate to drop in the next few hundred games but still produce some profit.

Regards
Matt

Skakus

Quote from: iggiv on May 21, 09:57 PM 2012
Sorry, Skakus, i don't mean to offend u, but in my point of view u don't understand something about roulette. Any method in roulette (i don't mean physical VB or bias) is gonna lose if played long enough. JL uses hit-n-run, he said it himself. Any pro knows that using the same method for too long time is a way to disaster. Any consistent patterns are killed by roulette in a long run.

Well, we already talked about it, it is now again the same story.

Ok iggiv. Let’s agree to disagree on this one.

Don’t worry I will play the game as JL suggested with a 15-20 game per day cap, and big spin breaks in between with random entry.
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Robeenhuut

I did some quick test using my spin data from SML (mix of live dealers and air ball). I know its not hit and run but it gives you an idea.
Here is breakdown. 116W and 9L - strike rate 13\1, longest winning streak 24, shortest winning streak 0, yes it went 16 times in a row without hit and i ran out of data, sorry i have 2 add 1L then. It would be 2L in a row. So we have 116 and 10. In 5 cases L were separated by less then 10W.

Matt

Robeenhuut

Lets analyze results here. One game takes about 25 spins in my estimate so 2 play 10 games a day requires about 250 spins or 4 hours on an air ball - 1 spin a minute. 2 test 1000 games requires 3 months of testing. If i played sessions of 5 games and waited 5 games 2 start another game i would be perfect 60 and 0. If i played 10 games sessions i would catch 2 loses or potentially 5 loses because as i posted before there were 5 loses separated by less than 10 games.
So draw your own conclusion here.
Matt

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Johnlegend on May 21, 05:00 PM 2012
Hello all its JL presenting to you another method which I hope will help those who embrace it properly to prospur against the game of ROULETTE. First off I have tweaked and shaped the method. But the fuse was lit by another member called WOLFAT so full credit to him for his valuable observation. Also ever the pusher and tester of a new idea is another member I have great respect and admiration for ATLANTIS. And his hit the ground running with a new idea drive has helped me arrive at this point. So here are the rules for CODE 4 REVERSE ATTACK.

(1) You record spins for dozens and columns 4 wide like this example below. Notice after the first dozen I mark the next three spins with an X. This is because they are only there to make up the framework, they play no other part in the method.

2XXX
1XXX
3XXX
3XXX----TRIGGER 1
2XXX----TRIGGER 2

Until you have 2 losing triggers as in the example. A trigger is a dozen that doesn't match the dozen three lines above it. Similar to the original CODE 4 framework.

(2) You now commence betting using a six step progression. 1,2,3,5,7,10=28 units risk.
That one of the next 6 first dozens will MATCH the dozen 3 lines above example below.

1XXX
2XXX
2XXX
3XXX--TRIGGER 1
3XXX--TRIGGER 2
1XXX--BET 1 LOST -1 UNIT
3XXX--BET 2 WON +3 UNITS---GAME OVER

(3) Once you achieve a win or lose the 6 step progression this constitutes a played game. And you STOP.

(4) I advise you to play no more than 15---20 of these games in any one calendar day. As I am doing.

(5) You do not play CONTINUALY, but in a HIT AND RUN fashion. So you are always entering the cycle RANDOMLY for one game at a time.

(6) This can be achieved by playing on different tables at a B&M casino. Or several live feeds/tables online. I advise only live or if you have to airball roulette. Under no circumstances are RNGs to be used.

(7) I advise you start with a BANKROLL of at least 200 units. approx 7x the progression. You can double the unit value each time you double your bankroll. So for example if you build up to 400 units you could use a progression of 2,4,6,10,14,20. This is optional depending on your confidence level. And personal targets.

(8)We are aiming for around a 1000 game sample over a two month period. This is what I will be doing. So if you want to play EXACTLY as I am you should do the same. To compare results faithfuly.

As always all questions are welcome.

RESULTS UPDATE FOR 21/5/2012

GAMES PLAYED 100

GAMES WON 97

GAMES LOST 3

STRIKERATE APPROX 32/1

BALANCE = 204 UNITS PLUS

win loss streaks 51 WON 1 LOST---7 WON 1 LOST---19 WON 1 LOST---20 WON...

Hello John

Why dont we record all dozens?

1223
1323
2211
3333
1211

We dont have a trigger in first column but we have triggers in 2nd and 3rd column.
Then you play in a column that has a trigger already. It speeds things up  ::)

Thanks 4 posting
Matt

Skakus

Quote from: Robeenhuut on May 22, 01:54 AM 2012
Hello John

Why don't we record all dozens?

1223
1323
2211
3333
1211

We don't have a trigger in first column but we have triggers in 2nd and 3rd column.
Then you play in a column that has a trigger already. It speeds things up  ::)

Thanks 4 posting

Hi Robeenhuut.

There must be a thousand and one ways to play this matrix method. Perhaps a better test would have been to get 1000 players to test the system using 1000 different variants for 1000 identical games each. :)

The point is we will probably never uncover the exact sweet spot for this CODE 4 REVERSE ATTACK system, or in fact any other system.

JL has asked us to play it his way, which is hit & run on the 1st column only wth 6 step progression because he believes that is as good as it gets for CODE 4.

Actually I agree with you and I think there are quicker and better ways to play, but that's not the issue here.

Stick to the rules for posting any results, but by all means test out you own gut feelings as to the most advantageous way to play. I know I will.

Good luck.
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Turner

If its never RNG, how did you make good money on a real table. 2 mins between spins and roughly 30 spins with qualiying and win (if it qualifies first time) which is 1 hour to win 3U.

If that loses, it would have been 40 spins or so and 18U down, which will take 6 hours to win back?

I really am missing something here....sorry.

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Skakus on May 22, 02:58 AM 2012

Hi Robeenhuut.

There must be a thousand and one ways to play this matrix method. Perhaps a better test would have been to get 1000 players to test the system using 1000 different variants for 1000 identical games each. :)

The point is we will probably never uncover the exact sweet spot for this CODE 4 REVERSE ATTACK system, or in fact any other system.

JL has asked us to play it his way, which is hit & run on the 1st column only wth 6 step progression because he believes that is as good as it gets for CODE 4.

Actually I agree with you and I think there are quicker and better ways to play, but that's not the issue here.

Stick to the rules for posting any results, but by all means test out you own gut feelings as to the most advantageous way to play. I know I will.

Good luck.

Hello Skakus

Actually i just played 2 games 4 real money on SML Auto Roulette - Air ball. Won both but they would have been loses if i followed rules. I won by covering 0 and on last step it hit  :D and in 2nd game i started betting after 4 loses in other column and it hit on 4th step.
Sorry i just checked last game. It hit on last step.

Regards
Matt

dino246

I like to play ZERO as an INSURANCE bet when using £ 5 chips on the outside of the table.
I would rather WIN £4 than LOSE £10, bearing in mind IF ZERO is hit then you WIN even more !!
Bring on the ZERO i say.

Rolletti

Quick run of 1500 games H&R with my real wheel spins from Wiesbaden.
Hope real test does better.

beretta28

I think that this method is simply ridicolous.
Dont't waste time to test it.
I Know at least 100 methods like it(without any statistic or math theory) and all lose

vile

Quote from: beretta28 on May 22, 06:38 AM 2012
I think that this method is simply ridicolous.
don't't waste time to test it.
I Know at least 100 methods like it(without any statistic or math theory) and all lose

--No ridiculous but sad watching some well known members participating in testing
  something that looks like a lottery,and have not any positive support to success.

wolfat

Hi JL,
tx for sharing; I've been away for a business trip and came back today. I'll start my testing and post results, as per stated rules.
ciao

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