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SCOOBY"S "KNOCKOUT" SYSTEM

Started by ScoobyDoo, Jun 28, 11:12 AM 2012

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amk

Wish you had gone even more off topic turnerfeck :)

Inspiring and thought prevoking. 

TwoCatSam

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Robeenhuut

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 05, 07:38 PM 2012
I must play this again.

Its just simple guys. Playing any 2 Dz methods u can experience 6 losses in a row from time 2 time.
How do i know it?  D longest 1 Dz can repeat in 1M spins is 12 or 13 spins. I saw 10 times 2 times i guess. Since all bet selections for 2 Dz r irrelevant ( i challenge anybody 2 prove me wrong ) u need 2 deal with 6 losses in a row from time 2 time.  How many times did u see 1 Dz repeat 6 times? I did many times. U can test it all u want.  Its just a waste of time.  Just go on n play it. U can not test enough here anyway.  Just use a common sense. F u can recover from 6 losses or more u have a good system. F u can do it 2 times in short succession u have a Holy Grail  :D I remember when  Jl declared that vertical limit of repeats of Dz's in his matrix system was like 8 so he thought that he constructed a perfect bet by confusing random.  But it turned out that random was more stubborn n it went more than 8 spins on a few occasions as reported by other forum members.  Just some food 4 thought.
Matt

buffalowizard

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jul 07, 10:52 AM 2012
Its just simple guys. Playing any 2 Dz methods You can experience 6 losses in a row from time 2 time.
How do i know it?  D longest 1 Dz can repeat in 1M spins is 12 or 13 spins. I saw 10 times 2 times i guess. Since all bet selections for 2 Dz r irrelevant ( i challenge anybody 2 prove me wrong ) u need 2 deal with 6 losses in a row from time 2 time.  How many times did u see 1 Dz repeat 6 times? I did many times. You can test it all u want.  Its just a waste of time.  Just go on n play it. You can not test enough here anyway.  Just use a common sense. F You can recover from 6 losses or more You have a good system. F You can do it 2 times in short succession You have a Holy Grail  :D I remember when  Jl declared that vertical limit of repeats of Dz's in his matrix system was like 8 so he thought that he constructed a perfect bet by confusing random.  But it turned out that random was more stubborn n it went more than 8 spins on a few occasions as reported by other forum members.  Just some food 4 thought.

Good post robeenhunt

It is inevitable that in every system you will experience a substantial string of losses. You would be wise to tell yourself to stop at a certain amount of losses. But then, will there a be another string of losses right after the first one? Well it may be uncommon but it will happen. All you can do is be ready for that moment and have good MM for that occasion.
1 dozens you expect to lose 10 in a row which hurt systems. Double dozens it's five or six. 18s six and over are painful. Good luck

BW

Stepkevh

so, if i understand this good, your telling that when playing on double dozens,

there is max 6 losses in a row altering with a win ?

something like wllllllwllllllwwlwl:llwllllll  ??
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

GLC

With any system, excessive losses vs wins kills it.  Consider, you play to 100 bets and you have 100 losses.  Hmmmmmmmmmmm.  I'm not a math guy, but it looks like you will lose.  Ok, you're right, I should flat bet.  Hmmmmmmmmmm still lost.  Trioplay??  lose, fibo--lose; marty--lose, labby--lose, reverse labby--lose. 
Here's the deal.  Whether you play a flat bet or a progression, if you get enough losses vs wins, you will lose.  If you play a flat bet for a penny per units with $1000, okay maybe you won't lose everything, but what are you going to win if you win.

If you play a flat bet for $500 units and you have $20,000, it's possible to have a losing stretch that will eat up all $20,000.

If you play a progression like the one I'm getting ready to post, it will take a serious run of bad luck to lose this also.

Seems to me, either you have a little luck and can win or you succumb to the house edge and lose.  If you have a small bankroll, you lose sooner.

This has been "Introduction to Roulette."  and it's all you need to know about betting.  Plus this.

Steep progressions that recover losses quickly, also can lose quickly.  If they are banked by a large bankroll of say 10,000 units, you may never hit that run that takes it all quickly.  Or you may hit it on the 1st try.  No guarantees.
Gradual progressions that recover losses gradually, work well until you have a loss vs win stretch long enough to bring you to the end of your progression.  And no matter how clever your progression, there's a loss vs win series long enough to cause you to tank. 
Grinder progressions that recover losses over a lot of spins, work well with normal deviations but there are long drawnout losing spells that are just a little worse than expected that will eventually eat up your bankroll.

Progressions 101

PS  I'm too busy to post the next amazing progression that's just a tweak of a few I've already posted.  Just going to post it so I can refer to it in the future. 
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

TwoCatSam

So, George, what you're saying is water won't run uphill.

I'll keep trying.

;D

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

woods101

Hi Scoob,

Thanks man. It might be worth a look at Ion Saliu's website. He's pretty out there on some levels but he uses the exact same grid/matrix and has a variety of bets based on the same principles, many will seem familiar based on your previous dozens methods.  ;)

Woods

GLC

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 07, 01:47 PM 2012
So, George, what you're saying is water won't run uphill. 

I'll keep trying.

;D

Sam

Just trying to let people know that we're fully aware of the house edge and as far as I know,  no one with all their marbles about them has ever said that a progression is the answer to all roulette systems.

Like I've said before, almost every system I've ever posted will give you a better shot at walking out of the casino with some money still in your pockets than if you go in and only play the quarter slots, especially if it's at my local indian casino which keeps probably around 15%.

I hate flat betting.  I love progressions.  Please let me hang myself.  I don't need anyone telling me that if I hang myself, I will die.  Duh? >:D   
I think I'll go have some vodka with Marvin, tonight.

In closing, all I've got to say is,  Cheers, :smile:
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

TwoCatSam

George

I wasn't poking fun at you any more than I was at me.  We're all trying to invent perpetual motion.

Please don't take offense.

;D TwoCatSam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

GLC

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 07, 10:43 PM 2012
George

I wasn't poking fun at you any more than I was at me.  We're all trying to invent perpetual motion.

Please don't take offense.

;D TwoCatSam

No offense taken by your posts.  I know we're on the same team.  My diatribe was aimed at; #@@*!!@@ and ":??+_+_??, not to mention DGRBJMNQZ.  Plus, I rarely get really irritated on this forum.  I did once at Compa because he tried to humiliate me and the same thing with Garnabby.  Other than that I've been able to keep my cool.

Even though my last post sounded a little harsh, it was really posted with tongue in cheek.  Please not the last smiley face. :smile:

Cheers, buddy,
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

albertojonas

Quote from: GLC on Jul 07, 09:27 PM 2012

Just trying to let people know that we're fully aware of the house edge and as far as I know,  no one with all their marbles about them has ever said that a progression is the answer to all roulette systems.




I like the idea that one can play at BV No Zero Roulette and pay 10% of their winnings. Where is the house advantage, supposing it is a fair RNG ?
:thumbsup:

Robeenhuut

Quote from: albertojonas on Jul 07, 11:16 PM 2012

I like the idea that one can play at BV No Zero Roulette and pay 10% of their winnings. Where is the house advantage, supposing it is a fair RNG ?
:thumbsup:

House advantage is paying 10% on yr winnings  ;D   Having 2 bet on every spin irritates d hell out of me even f mutual exclusive bets r easy 2 place. And 0 does not affect me. I love when it hits. 4 some reason i hardly ever lose betting on it.  Fairness of BV is then irrelevant. And house advantage is a poor excuse 4 losing.
Matt

Willie

Quote from: ScoobyDoo on Jun 28, 11:12 AM 2012
Hi Guys,
Well, before I begin to try and explain this cool system to you, I have to make it understood that I don't know how to make a grid on here. The one I need looks just like the table layout for the 36 numbers for the roulette table, but instead of 12 streets long, it needs to be 20 streets long. So I am asking you to use your imagination a little for you to understand what I will be trying to explain. If anyone knows how to make a grid like I just described, please contact me so I can make it more clear.


Now with that said....Here we go.


You will need some paper to draw the grid on. And then write down at the beginning of each "column" the following numbers:


1/2 -----> You will be tracking the dozens in this direction ---->


2/3


1/3


Lets say the first number was dozen # 1...put an X next to 1/2 & 1/3 because they both have dozen # 1 in them.


Lets say the next number was dozen # 3, so this time put an X next to 2/3 & 1/3


It will look something like this:


1/2 X
2/3   X
1/3 XX


As you can see, 1/3 has two Xs....This is the trigger to start playing on 1/3


You continue this way, always betting the longest line of Xs (Must be minimum of two Xs in a row)


If a Zero comes up, mark a Zero on all 3 lines and wait until you have two Xs in a row again.


If two lines have the same number of Xs, wait to bet until one line has one more X than the others.


It's very simple to play and you can win anywhere from 5 to 15 units within 20 spins of the wheel.


The only time you will go beyond 20 spins is if you have a loss on the 20th spin.


Always end on a win.


I would suggest not playing more than one 20 spin group at a time. Take a rest and then go for it again.


Well, that's the best I can explain it without having a grid to work with for examples.


Let me know what you think.....and tell me how I can make a grid if anyone knows.


Thanks,
ScoobyDoo

Nice method ScoobyDoo.. :)
I tried this once for 20 spins on rng with 10u as base bet
Got to +90 without a sweat (read- never had even back to back loss) in 20 spins
Don't do the done.. (;

nottophammer

Quote from: soggett on Jun 29, 09:49 AM 2012The killer of this system is when dozens change wthout a repeat  1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,3...
looks familiar
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