TWO UNCLES ON DIFFERENT TABLES BOTH WON--and still winning

[F_LAT_INO]

---LoL.....Your guitar and my mandoline could get us to Ophrey...with these 2 uncles.

--Aunts would get em also.

[F_LAT_INO]

another queer session...smartlive airball.

loses flatbet and busted br of 1000 with progression 

Where did you see 1000 ch.busted...something you counting wrong mate.

[F_LAT_INO]

hi flat,

column i line 79. or do i overlook something?

cheers

--Many errors mate,but will fix it for couple days,but scan it to my private mail,as can't download

[catalyst]

--Many errors mate,but will fix it for couple days,but scan it to my private mail,as can't download

my dumb computer cannot open the excel sheet. could someone please mention the elements of the sectors and progression used in this system.
thanks
catalyst

[hanshuckebein]

@catalyst

maybe you have problems opening it because it's an xlsx file.

try the free software planmaker viewer. this works for me.

cheers

hans

[peauke]

Just want to be sure about the rules.

after 9 sectors have hit we are going to betting.

method 1:
last 4 sectors after lose switch to the other remaining 5 sectors until lose then repeat last 4 sectors. example:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9 all sectors have hit so bet 6,7,8,9
6 win
5 lose switch to 1,2,3,4,5
2 win
1 win
8 lose end cycle.

This was the easy part for me and understand method 1.

method 2:
last 5 sectors after lose switch to the other remaining 5 sectors but there are only 4 left so pick the sector after the last sector until lose then repeat. example:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9 all sectors have hit so bet 5,6,7,8,9
5 win
6 win
1 lose switch to 1,2,3,4 and sector 5 (is this right, because after 9,8,7,6 comes sector 5)

This i am not sure about what sector to choose after the switch from 5 last to 5 furthest.

Could someone clarify this for me thanks 

[F_LAT_INO]

Just want to be sure about the rules.

after 9 sectors have hit we are going to betting.

method 1:
last 4 sectors after lose switch to the other remaining 5 sectors until lose then repeat last 4 sectors. example:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9 all sectors have hit so bet 6,7,8,9
6 win
5 lose switch to 1,2,3,4,5
2 win
1 win
8 lose end cycle.

This was the easy part for me and understand method 1.--correct

method 2:
last 5 sectors after lose switch to the other remaining 5 sectors but there are only 4 left so pick the sector after the last sector until lose then repeat. example:
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9 all sectors have hit so bet 5,6,7,8,9
5 win
6 win
1 lose switch to 1,2,3,4 and sector 5 (is this right, because after 9,8,7,6 comes sector 5)-no correct

This i am not sure about what sector to choose after the switch from 5 last to 5 furthest.

Could someone clarify this for me thanks 

couse sectors 5 and 6 have hit in the meantime/as you are tracking this write down underline new sector and erase same overline/therefore your furthest sectors would  7,not 5

[F_LAT_INO]

And btw 2 uncles done another mini session and now up something over 1ch.per a spin.
Decided not to continue and will start new session when they get it from Wiesbaden.
Except that they didn't strictly follow the rules as explained to Peauke couse they played


1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
5w
6w
1l.....and since they didn't erase 5 and 6 above/nor did any erasing just to show all sectors hit/,they continued playing 1,2,3,4.5.....which really doesn't effect the game in whole.....but just reminder to
Ophis.

[ophis]

ok I'm getting different informations from different threads so i want to clarify smth.

WHEN do we assign 4(5) furthest/recent sectors
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9 trigger bet R  Assign 4 recent 6789 # Assign 5 furthest 12345
7 W
2 L  trigger bet F Assign 5 furthest 13456

Now....
do we choose teal way *assign on 1st trigger of a cycle*
or
do we choose purple way *assign furthest when we are about to bet on them*

are those FR assigning rules the same for 4/5 and 5/5 variant?

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What is the progression for Cycles?

if Cycle profit <= -10 then rise units.
if Cycle profit >= +20 then lower units?

or

:: on Cycle L
if Cycle profit <= -10 then rise units.
:: on Cycle W
adjust units to balance -20..-30 =2 units # -30..-40=3 units # -40..-50=4 units etc

?

[Robeenhuut]

Hola  Flat

I just wonder how you came up with 300 spins spin total?     In B@M casino its probably 10 hours of play. I just wonder about your strike rate.  I know that you are an old school and you don't keep any records but can you give me a ball park figure?.  You recommend at least 1000u BR and your win goal is 100u. I understand that you are way ahead playing this but can we get some breakdown?

Regards

[F_LAT_INO]

ok I'm getting different informations from different threads so i want to clarify smth.

WHEN do we assign 4(5) furthest/recent sectors
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9 trigger bet R  Assign 4 recent 6789 # Assign 5 furthest 12345
7 W
2 L  trigger bet F Assign 5 furthest 13456

Now....
do we choose teal way *assign on 1st trigger of a cycle*--any effect is same
or
do we choose purple way *assign furthest when we are about to bet on them*--same here any

are those FR assigning rules the same for 4/5 and 5/5 variant?--yes

------------------------------------------------------

What is the progression for Cycles?

if Cycle profit <= -10 then rise units.--could happen in 2/3 consec.cycles
if Cycle profit >= +20 then lower units?--over 10

or

:: on Cycle L
if Cycle profit <= -10 then rise units.
:: on Cycle W
adjust units to balance -20..-30 =2 units # -30..-40=3 units # -40..-50=4 units etc--yes

?

Ophis mate,
the first 2 questions do as you wish or which is easier for you,but since most that are testing this
are doing it in 12345 fashion instead of 13456 you can do thatway.About balancing should be ok

[F_LAT_INO]

Hola  Flat

I just wonder how you came up with 300 spins spin total?     In B@M casino its probably 10 hours of play. I just wonder about your strike rate.  I know that you are an old school and you don't keep any records but can you give me a ball park figure?.  You recommend at least 1000u BR and your win goal is 100u. I understand that you are way ahead playing this but can we get some breakdown?

Regards

--I do almost every night 330-400 spins,which is usual night session.Why 300 spins.....couse this
  explicitly relays on repeaters which MUST happen throughout night session of about or more then 300 spins.Sometime you are having up and downg game half session,or losing one,therefore you
must have a large BR to play this.1000 ch.I personally never stated to play this with,but something like winning 100 with 1000.......I don't appoint any BR when going to casino...these that play clasic negative progression could make L/W......on losing I don't think therefore /w....LOL

[F_LAT_INO]

About leveling Ophis,
Have a look last cycle in this attachem am just testing.
Am not very good in maths,but I think that our leveling isn't
as good as it should/you see when I play live am guided with chips
in front of me and am all doing from head with no strict rules/.
If we had lost that last cycle 4 spins earlier and would won 286 chips,
we still would be in minus here 96 chips,and back to bet 1 chip next cycle
with 96 chips down......you get my point here...we must also level staking scale
with W/L scale......any idea.....HELP FROM MATH GUYS

[F_LAT_INO]

Ophis think that I got the idea........15% of each winning hand...example;


down=382 ch/as in attachement/with 9 ch.bet.....now if wins 4 times reduce
next bet by 15% of 382 on each bet which would be 38,2x4=152...382 minus 152=230....and reduce
back to 5 chips next bet....did some retesting on this and it seems ok....what do you think,will still
exploit this over weekend.

[Evollution]

is really hard to understand your system .. any explications coz i cant understand anything from that Excel file