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The waking dozen

Started by buffalowizard, Jul 13, 05:45 PM 2012

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buffalowizard

Here's an unholy grail for ya, nice n simple

Wait for a dozen not to show for 5 spins

Then wait for that dozen to hit

Then bet that dozen to hit again within 4 spins

If it doesn't hit again within 4, then retrack for another
Dozen to go missing for 5

Take advantage of those waking dozens!

BW

buffalowizard

Here's a random sample. Notice how both 4 losses would have hit on the fifth! Has a good hit rate anyhow
Hope you like

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2 <has woken after 5+ spins
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2 <win
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1 <woken
1 <win
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3 <woken
3 <win
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2 <woken
2 <win
3 <woken
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2 <loss
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1 <win
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2 <win
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2 <win
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2 <win
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2 <loss
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3 <woken
3 <win



vladir

The basic idea is not bad at all...

Do you think that, for example, a dozen that slept for 40 spins should also be played only for the next 4 after it hit? Or could we play a bigger progression for more spins on this cases, according to the number of misses it had before hitting the first time?


"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

buffalowizard

Quote from: vladir on Jul 13, 06:17 PM 2012
The basic idea is not bad at all...

Do you think that, for example, a dozen that slept for 40 spins should also be played only for the next 4 after it hit? Or could we play a bigger progression for more spins on this cases, according to the number of misses it had before hitting the first time?

You may be right vladir and the progression could be adapted to how long a dozen has missed, if there are any differences in each case. The more I test this, I guess the more I may see some correlation
It might be that quick wakers are more unpredictable than long wakers, or vice versa !
Thanks

vladir

Maybe we could get an idea of the maximum and averages that it takes for a dozen to strike a second time, after missing for 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15 .... analyzing 1 Million spins or more... anyone wants to try it?

"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

buffalowizard

Well that would be great but I'm not sure how anyone would get such data?

Carsch

I like them simple, Buffalowizard.....and i like this one.

I just did a test with some numbers i got from this board (dublinet numbers) and here is the result after a few spins playing both Doz & Col at the same time.

Progression: 1,1,1,2
Lose the first session and start over with: 2,2,3,5


..................Dozens.............................Columns
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31
33
27
29
12
9..............W+2
1
13....................................W+2
15..............W+4
1
16
27
26..............W+6
20....................................W+4
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36
6
29............L+5
36............L+4
13............L+3
8.............W+7
20
8
8
4
32
4.............L+6
3.............L+5
36............W+7...................W+6
1
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4
33
28
25
20
23............W+9.................W+8
10
22............L+8
17............L+7
16............L+6
5.............W+10
27
25............W+12..................L+7
16..................................L+6
33.................................W+8
23
13
29
23
6
25...........L+11
1............W+13
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31
24
5
33
2
3
13
1.................................W+10..........TOTAL PROFIT (DOZ+COL) = +23
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N1CKYYY

This is an interesting idea. I am going to make a simulation with 1 milion spins.

buffalowizard

Quote from: N1CKYYY on Jul 14, 06:59 AM 2012
This is an interesting idea. I am going to make a simulation with 1 milion spins.


thanks N1CKYYY! That would be great, save a lot of testing for sure... Depending on how you view these kind of things, keep us updated mate

N1CKYYY

I made the test as i promised you ( actually this is the reason i am here to offer MY ideas and to test YOURS ).

On single zero roulette without ANY progression the system is kind of balanced but when it happens to TANK it does not recover more than 30 %.

On no zero roulette without ANY progression the system makes profit but unfortunatelly there are moments when you have to wait 1000 - 2000 spins to recover.

This is an ideal system to be played with bot. ( I will create one when i have free time )

If you start with 300 EURO BR and you play with 0.10 cents in the end of the day you will be between 290 - 340 EURO depends on WHEN YOU PUT THE BREAK.

If you guys want me to show you visual representation of the test i will make one for you.

If you want me to make a web site with option to upload a file with spins and use it as a tracker for different systems just send me private message or somebody to make a seperate THREAD where you request which system to be coded.


The web site may be password protected or free for everyone. The choice is yours.

buffalowizard

Quote from: N1CKYYY on Jul 14, 08:38 AM 2012
I made the test as i promised you ( actually this is the reason i am here to offer MY ideas and to test YOURS ).

On single zero roulette without ANY progression the system is kind of balanced but when it happens to TANK it does not recover more than 30 %.

On no zero roulette without ANY progression the system makes profit but unfortunately there are moments when you have to wait 1000 - 2000 spins to recover.

This is an ideal system to be played with bot. ( I will create one when i have free time )

If you start with 300 EURO BR and you play with 0.10 cents in the end of the day you will be between 290 - 340 EURO depends on WHEN YOU PUT THE BREAK.

If you guys want me to show you visual representation of the test i will make one for you.

If you want me to make a web site with option to upload a file with spins and use it as a tracker for different systems just send me private message or somebody to make a separate THREAD where you request which system to be coded.


The web site may be password protected or free for everyone. The choice is yours.

Wow you are one efficient guy.
Really appreciate you doing all that and am intrigued by your results. Would love to see the graphs please. Did you try with any kind of progression?
Also anything you decide to code would be available for all

Thanks again

N1CKYYY

Now i am customising the system to work with progression and some 'money management system'.

I will make my best to make a visual representation as soon as possible.

But instead of making test for each one system and posting it here i think of creating a WEB BASED tracker where everybody will be able to visualize and test different systems.


unre4lbg


buffalowizard

Great stuff nicky, I'm sure a lot of members will appreciate it, myself included

BW

buffalowizard

If you start with 300 EURO BR and you play with 0.10 cents in the end of the day you will be between 290 - 340 EURO depends on WHEN YOU PUT THE BREAK.
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How were you playing it to achieve the above results nicky?

By the way, thanks carsch for contributing your own testing towards this

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