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Looking for a bet selection that doesn't win TOO much

Started by Colbster, Jul 15, 12:27 PM 2012

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Colbster

I know this sounds like what we don't want, but I need a bet that only wins about 50% of the time and not particularly streaky.  With the method I am working with (MM), I want my wL to be wLwLwLwLwLwL.  My problem is that when I find a winning bet, it wins too long at once such as LL::w and this is ruining what I am trying to accomplish.  Has anyone seen a bet method (specifically EC) that alternates winning and losing fairly consistently?

vladir

I think there is no such thing... If it was, we would just bet the oposite and it would be a winning system :P
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Colbster on Jul 15, 12:27 PM 2012
I know this sounds like what we don't want, but I need a bet that only wins about 50% of the time and not particularly streaky.  With the method I am working with (MM), I want my wL to be wLwLwLwLwLwL.  My problem is that when I find a winning bet, it wins too long at once such as LL::w and this is ruining what I am trying to accomplish.  Has anyone seen a bet method (specifically EC) that alternates winning and losing fairly consistently?

I would love to have streaks like that  ;D You just play 1 up or 1 down and you are a constant winner.  Flat claims that he found a most balanced EC bet by betting alternatively on 3 lines but personally i dont see any difference.  EC is just EC no matter if you bet 18 different numbers or just B or R   :D

Matt

Colbster

I don't even need it to be a 50/50 system.  It could actually be a net-losing system, but I don't want LLLLLLLLL or WWWWWWW.  Most I have found either have really good stretches or really bad stretches.  I want the most mediocre, hashing around near 0 system I can possibly find.

ophis

Quote from: Colbster on Jul 15, 12:46 PM 2012
I don't even need it to be a 50/50 system.  It could actually be a net-losing system, but I don't want LLLLLLLLL or WWWWWWW.  Most I have found either have really good stretches or really bad stretches.  I want the most mediocre, hashing around near 0 system I can possibly find.

any system with consistent LW pattern would be long term winner.

but in all systems LW patterns are changing all the time

LLLLWLLLLWWLLLLLWLLL
WWWWLLWWWLWLWWWLW
LWLWLWLWLWLWLW

....u cant have system that produce only one type.
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6th-sense

an old favouite of mine was taking the result of the last three of an ec...and betting it till it wins..ie like staying with the dominent run...as soon as it hit then play the dominent of the last 3 including the one hit...sometimes it you can win pretty fast ....ie rbrbbrrrrrrbb  i would bet r 1st till win which is 6th spin as r is dominent in 1st 3...as soon as i won i see bb are before it so thats the dominent one to chase as soon as we hit it on spin 12 we bet for red as thats the dominent one on that hit....another 50 50 bet selection for me is the dozen bet i use u can try this flat betting as its a very even steady bet as you will see testing...very slow but good ..if a dozen hits more than once ie 2 times wait 2 spins and flat bet that doz will hit in 4 spins....if a doz hits 3,4,5 any amount of times wait that excact amount of spins and bet it will hit again flat betting for 4 spins...you will be surprised how steady this is

TwoCatSam

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

6th-sense

thanks sam the dozen one is really good...i should have added only bet the dozen if it doesn,t show before the qualifying spin break...ie if doz 3 showed a run of 3...you would bet only after 3 spins if it didn,t show while you were waiting for the 3 spin trigger.....simple error rushing typing trying to do other stuff... i said 50 50 also as it does seem to act like it

TwoCatSam

So to clarify for me:

If a dozen hit twice, wait for 2 "empty" spins.  (Empty meaning no same dozen.)
3..wait 3 empty
4  wait 4 empty
5 wait 5 empty

But in every case, after you begin betting you only bet four spins.

That it?

With Lanky's six point divisor, this could be very interesting.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

6th-sense

Not as interesting as reversing the bet with a 3 stage 2doz progression lol it works both ways with same trigger rules.....all i can say is try it out

Colbster

6th,

That sounds very cool and worth some consideration.  It isn't what I am looking for specifically on this quest I am on, but it has it's own merit.

Where I seem to be getting the best results based on my needs is by betting a terrible twos pattern.  I bet RRBBRRBB regardless of what is happening on the table.  It breaks even during long streaks in either direction, is perfect on chops, handles random junk well and is perfect on 50% of the terrible twos that show up.  The other 50% of terrible twos either win too much or lose too much, but not long enough to destroy my staking method.

hanshuckebein

hi colbster,

would a bankroll balance trend like this fit your mm?

cheers

hans
"Don't criticize what you don't understand. You never walked in that man's shoes." (Elvis Presley)

Colbster

That is precisely what I am looking for, because I am making money on both wins and losses slowly.  It is the steep climbs and drops that hurt me, so your slow loss is ideal!! Would love a PM to discuss what you have there.

What I have had the best success with has been a constant BBRRBBRR, HHLLHHLL, EEOOEEOO.  These work just how I need them to for chops, streaks, and some of the doubles, although not all the doubles as you can imagine.  Yours looks even more favorable for my Dynamic Differential Betting that I have detailed in the Notebook section.  That MM is very, very stable when wins and losses don't freak out, but the bet selection I was using was a little too streaky.

Thanks for the graph and response - I am very excited to hear how you got that!

Tamino

The bet you are looking for  is  so simple . It`s  just out there  for  grabs. I am using this method  with only one of the E.C.  NO SWEAT .



Tamino.

Tomla021

the differential betting is a great system......so ideally wlwlwl and not :wllll:llll
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