Kpositive

[Kattila]

I play most of the time flat bet or using positive progressions.
Try and see results, i my opinion better and safer than negative progressions.
Example in the excel file betting 4 times one dozen , no special bet selection.
Even better results on 9 numbers groups ( inside or ...outside like 3 streets....)

cheers

[keel44]

Very nice.  I like how you did that.  Positive within a negative progressions are where its at !!

[Kattila]

Another session /example



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When start session wait one virtual W

9    bet d1    Virtual play
21  l1
14  l2
2    w  virt.
11  bet d1 , 1u
29  l1 -1
25  l2 -2
4    w 0
35  bet d3 , 2u
32  w +4
32  bet d3 , 3u
23  l1 +1
27  w +7      reset
27  bet d3  , 1u
36  w +9
14  bet d2  , 2u
13  w +13
23  bet d2 , 3u
34  l1 +10
32  l2 +7
2    l3 +4
27  l4 +1
29  bet d3 , 2u
36  w +5
16  bet d2 , 3u
36  l1 +2
21  w +8
27  bet d3 ,  4u
1    l1 +4
6    l2  0
29  w +8   
10  bet d1  , 5u
23  l1 +3
17  l2 -2 
0    l3  -7
1    w +3     reset to 1u , safe game
25  bet d3 , 1u
9    l1 +2
17  l2 +1
5    l3  0
6    l4  -1
34  bet d3 , 1u
34  w +1
22  bet d2,  2u
16  w +5
36  bet d3 , 3u
20  l1 +2
29  w +8 
23  bet d2  , 4u
29  l1 +4
20  w +12    reset to 1u
9    bet d1
34  l1 +11
34  l2 +10
33  l3 +9
19  l4 +8
28  bet d3  , 1u
19  l1 +7
25  w +9
28  bet d3 , 2u
23  l1 +7
34  w  +11
7    bet d1 , 3u
30  l1 +8
12  w +14     reset to 1u
19  bet d2
5    l1 +13
10   l2 +12
12  l3 +11
28  l4 +10
4    bet d1,  1u
11  w +12
1    bet d1 , 2u
12  w +16
0
12  bet d1 , 3u
27  l1 +13
24  l2 +10
35  l3 +7
26  l4 +4
36  bet d3 , 2u
22  l1 +2
29  w +6
34  bet d3 , 3u
28  w +12          reset to 1u, safe game
7    bet d1, 1u
16  l1 +11
34  l2 +10
28  l3 +9
17  l4 +8
24  bet d2 , 1u
34  l1 +7
17  w +9
36  bet d3 , 2u
20  l1 +7
0   l2  +5
1    l3  +3
36  w +7
11  bet d1 , 3u
0    l1 +4
15  l2 +1
5   w +7
20  bet d2 , 4u
31  l1 +3
2    l2 -1
30  l3 -5
20  w +3    reset to 1u
12  bet d1, 1u
34  l1 +2
3    w +4
15  bet d2 , 2u
28  l1 +2
20  w +6
27  bet d3 , 3u
4    l1 +3
20  l2  0
31  w +6
17  bet d2 , 4u
16  w +14  reset to 1u
11  bet d1 , 1u
25  l1 +13
13  l2 +12
2    w +14
36  bet d3 , 2u
3    l1 +12
28  w +16
25  bet d3 , 3u
13  l1 +13
27  w +19                         end session

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[Kattila]

 


Another session , this time reset only when new plus in bankroll.
More agressive way.

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9    bet d1        virtual play
21  l1
17  l2
7   w
13  bet d2 , 1u
24  w +2
2    bet d1 , 2u
27  l1 0
6    w +4
2    bet d1, 1u
31  l1 +3
20  l2 +2
2    w +4
17  bet d2 , 2u
28  l1 +2
10  l2  0
32  l3 -2
13  w +2
12  bet d1 , 3u
29  l1 -1
35  l2 -4
10  w +2
16  bet d2, 4u
29  l1 -2
22  w +6  , reset to 1u because new high
20  bet d2 , 1u
6    l1 +5
33  l2 +4
15  w +6
5    bet d1 , 2u
20  l1 +4
27  l2 +2
0    l3  0
7    w +4
30  bet d3 , 3u
35  w + 10 , reset to 1u
18  bet d2 , 1u
4    l1 +9
25  l2 +8
12  l3 +7
36  l4 +6
30  bet d3 , 1u
35  w +8
16  bet d2, 2u
32  l1 +6
18  w +10
6    bet d1 , 3u
7    w +16               reset to 1u
23  bet d2 , 1u
3    l1 +15
20  w +17
1    bet d1 , 2u
19  l1 +15
17  l2 +13
29  l3 +11
14  l4 +9
1   bet d1 , 1u
22  l1 +8
31  l2 +7
30  l3+6
34  l4 +5  STOP (twice L4) wait virt. w
28  bet d3
4   l1
23  l2
28  w virtual
33  bet d3 , 1u
32  w +7
29  bet d3 , 2u
24  l1 +5
23  l2 +3
16  l3 +1
28  w +5
31  bet d3 , 3u
1    l1 +2
35  w +8
1   bet d1, 4u
1    w + 16
25  bet d3 , 5u
10  l1 +11
27  w +21       end session

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[keel44]

Your not getting a lot of replies, but I really like this strategy. 

I don't know if it is necessary to go virtual as long as you are not betting on the same dozen that you lost 8 in a row on.  That could be a long sleeper dozen.  The other 2 are not sleeping at that time.

This strategy takes advantage of a normal strike rate to boost your profits.  Which, in turn, could help recover if you start of poorly.  I need to look into this more.  Thanks for the system.

[TwoCatSam]

32 you bet doz 3 and.....
16  came and you lost...and..
28...came and you won.
22..is the next time you bet; 2nd doz.

Question:  Why did you not use the #28 as a trigger to bet the third dozen?  It was the dozen that came.  If I had sat down and observed the 28 come, it would have been my trigger.  Right?

Your instructions are confusing to me.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Also, you say to bet the dozen that came 4 times with a positive progression.  You do not do that in the first few numbers.

Is there a time to cut off betting?  Is that what "reset to 1 after plus" means?

When you win, do you track new?

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Hate to gripe.......

You need to distinguish between a positive balance (which could be +1) and all all time high (which could be anything above +1)

You may have a very good idea here, but I can't understand it.

Sam

[keel44]

In his examples he observes one spin after a win. 

l1,l2,l3,l4 --- that is the NUMBER of losses

Some of his examples he plays it "safe" and does not continue to press if he has a tough section or if he wants to stay in the positive balance (your choice). 

There is an example where he does continue to press.  You don't need to press at the beginning if you are winning flat betting, right?

These rules are whatever you want to make it.  As long as his examples are true and not made up, you can see it can be a profitable strategy.

[keel44]

I just did "RNG" example for fun. 

I played nothing but the 1st dozen--no virtual--no observing spins. 
If I lose 4 in a row, I drop down a unit. 
When I win, I immediately raise 1 unit. 
I continued to "press" without resetting when in new positive balance.


My balance started out O.K. I was up +22.
The 1st dozen slept for a while dropping to -110.
The 1st dozen stormed back.  I was now up +76
I was playing 17 units a spin at this point.
I played around 120 spins in all.


I think with a more conservative approach, I would not have had those wild swings.

[TwoCatSam]

**** As long as his examples are true and not made up************

Keel

I certainly did not mean to insinuate that.  I just don't understand it. 

When you use the word "press", do you mean go up one unit?

Language is very important.  Terminology is very important.  A doctor says "scalpel" and someone hands him a hammer.  Not good........

It seems this game is broken down into four-spin segments--unless something happens; I don't know what!.  Not all games go four spins.

Why don't they go four spins?

Is it because......
a.  You hit a new all-time high?
b.  You hit a high within those four spins?
c.  Some other reason?

I realize there may be a language barrier here.  Just trying to understand.

Sam

[Kattila]

32 you bet doz 3 and.....
16  came and you lost...and..
28...came and you won.
22..is the next time you bet; 2nd doz.

Question:  Why did you not use the #28 as a trigger to bet the third dozen?  It was the dozen that came.  If I had sat down and observed the 28 come, it would have been my trigger.  Right?

Your instructions are confusing to me.

Sam

Hi Sam ,  sorry for my poor english , it's the 4th language....
In my examples after w or L4  I wait one spin and bet that dozen,
but not really matter the bet selection here can use any ....but
must bet on any active dozen(active ...hit at least once in the last 6 spins),
so in your example yes can bet that dozen 3 ( nr. 28 trigger).

And about reset ...we can reset when reached new high in the bankroll
example was at +5 and won again ...now you are at +6 (or +10) so you
reached a new high  , so you can choose
your own next high/target  before reset to 1 unit ( examples +1 , or +5 , or +10 ..)

And you can reset to 1 unit also  in this situation ( safe play):
for example you was in positive  bankroll like +30  but lost and you are at -15,
but finally you won and actual bankroll is  0 , or +1 , or +5 ....now is time
to reset to 1 unit .

Hope this helps.....and if i have  time next days i will post
some examples using different bet selections.

cheers

[Kattila]

 
This time i use trigger any dozen that hit at least 2 times in
the last 6 spins.
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14
26
14   trigger d2, bet 1u
32   l1 -1
24   w +1
29   trigger d3, bet 2u
17   l1 -1
34   w +3
18   trigger d2, bet 1u
18   w +5
30   trigger d3, bet  2u
35   w + 9
9     no  bet
14   trigger d2, bet 1u
1    l1 +8
24   w +10
0
19   trigger d2, bet 2u
22   w + 14
29   no bet
8     no bet
29   trigger d3, bet 1u
29   w +16
36   trigger d3, bet 2u
4     l1 +14
29    w + 18
30   trigger d3, bet 1u
3    ....so on.....
1
11
15
36
35
26

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[irishrob]

Thanks Kattila for this progression. I'm testing it with the simple, FTL bet selection. It works great so far.
BTW, are you not Hungarian?

[Kattila]

Salut, szia, hola,
Roumanian and Hungarian also , and i live in Spain .