I asked this Airball question ages ago and got no response really

[ego]

PM me and i will help you out with some visual ballistics.
In return i want Country, name of casino and a map with where the wheel is located in the casino.

Don't post about visual ballistics in public any more - as i have just open up my own forum.

But you can make a quick test with some simple measuring wish is not so advance.

Take data from ball in cw direction and rotor at ccw direction.
Check if rotor speed change during spin.
Check how many vertical deflectors hit.

How to check rotor speed at beginning and end of spin.
Note zero above one vertical deflector and count 123123123 and note wish number is below deflector at beginning of spin and at end of spin.
If you get the same number then the rotor speed is constant - if not then the rotor speed change during spin and you can skip that wheel regarding visual ballistic solutions.

See if you can get 2 to 3 vertical deflectors hit 789 times out of 10 during 30 to 40 spins.
If not then you can skip that wheel.

If you get does conditions correct i can show you how to aim for the high probability are where the ball will end up for each spin.

Cheers

[rusa71]

If you get does conditions correct i can show you how to aim for the high probability are where the ball will end up for each spin.

Cheers

Hi ego!
Will you show your method on the public forum or sending to PM only?

[Turner]

Thanks ego
Before i pm, are we still on airball here or are we talking real wheel. Its just that the thread was initially airball.

[ego]

It works on real wheel and air ball wheel if conditions are correct.

Not changing rotor.
2 to 3 pin game.
Allow to place bets 8 to 10 seconds after ball has been spun.

If not then you can skip that wheel.

[ego]

It works on real wheel and air ball wheel if conditions are correct.

Not changing rotor.
2 to 3 pin game.
Allow to place bets 8 to 10 seconds after ball has been spun.

If not then you can skip that wheel.

As i quote you need does conditions.

Degree of tilt is very important and the largest spreed is three active vertical deflectors that hit 789 times out of 10 for 30 to 40 spins to have a valid situation.
Then you would use the last vertical deflector as your reference deflector or main focus pin (next to the last one slepping)
You should only play when ball is cw and rotor ccw.
That way the ball no matter wish deflectors it hit will donate ball jumps and scatter into the same high probability area.
To rap it up you take distance using visual ballistic solution to get A to B + scatter ...

[downthehatch]

See....I am very suspicious about absolutly everything.

Live wheel online......52 seconds between the ball leaving the dealers hand

Airball......119 seconds

.Why would the casino give you 27 more seconds. Every detail is addressed in a Casino to be in their favour.

They give you nearly half a minute more on airball

I think this is a good point to raise

hi im a bit baffled where you get 119 seconds from ? what site, casino are you talking about

on William Hill live casino on their auto SLINGSHOT wheel you only get about 25 seconds to place your bets,

Cheers

[Turner]

hi I'm a bit baffled where you get 119 seconds from ? what site, casino are you talking about

on William Hill live casino on their auto SLINGSHOT wheel you only get about 25 seconds to place your bets,

Cheers

Sorry...i basically meant why are there less spins per hour on airball than real dealer.
There is more time to place bets also. Ill time that tonight. Im on the android right now...hence my usual bad spelling and lower case/upper case errors

[downthehatch]

Sorry...i basically meant why are there less spins per hour on airball than real dealer.
There is more time to place bets also. Ill time that tonight. I'm on the android right now...hence my usual bad spelling and lower case/upper case errors

hi,

i think you will find you get nearly 80 spins per hour, it says a spin every 45 seconds. I cannot see how VB could be used the ball whizzes around as many as 20 times after no more bets.

also the same wheel is used by Paddy power and i think other live camargue air ball casino sites, just as the same live dealers are used from one of those baltic states

Cheers

[F_LAT_INO]

Alfastreet 60 sec exactly,it does 18 to 24 revolutions,and after exactly 12 revolutions
it says -no more bets.

[Drazen]

Alfastreet 60 sec exactly,it does 18 to 24 revolutions,and after exactly 12 revolutions
it says -no more bets.

I have never observed that as before i didn't had knowledge and skills for VB, but now I do...


And many said that on airball machines  NMB are very early (so i forgett about that possibility) but if you say after 12 out of 18-24  is NMB then it is not too early.. If machine would let NMB 6-8 revolutions to the end that it is doable.


I think in our country they don't  maintain wheel so often and good and it should be some DD, after all it isnt so hard to find even on better modern wheels...


I ll check this up and let you know.


Cheers


Drazen

[Twisteruk]

Paddypower you can place your bet up to the second the Dealer spins the ball, it can be good if you bet Vois or Tier maybe Orph if you get a good read on a Dealer. They change every 28 minutes. The wheel never changes direction though most of them spin Hard for 3 then soft for 3. Not all obviously. Its great when you get a good read on a Dealer. Nothing, to me, is better !

[Turner]

Paddypower you can place your bet up to the second the Dealer spins the ball, it can be good if you bet Vois or Tier maybe Orph if you get a good read on a Dealer. They change every 28 minutes. The wheel never changes direction though most of them spin Hard for 3 then soft for 3. Not all obviously. Its great when you get a good read on a Dealer. Nothing, to me, is better !

Im gonna say Will Hill again...so brace yerself!

Can you store tiers...orps etc in presets like Will Hill?

[Twisteruk]

I'm gonna say Will Hill again...so brace yerself!

Can you store tiers...orps etc in presets like Will Hill?

You can choose to bet them but Im not sure if you can store them. I cant log in to find out coz Im banned lol

Paddypower I just use the 'Race Track' for my last second bet

[iltete]

you can buy,,,about 20000 euro one automatic roulete... and make all the test... at my own i have...10 rotor speed and 10 ball airgun speed.. and rulette chose in secret the combination.... all the sistems electonical... pc... on automatic roulete is for do not rubbering...for make the play calculate the bet pay money... the time interval for the game is posibil to adjust betwin 20-200 seconds---for no mor bets 1-30 second..... a lot of adjust.... but in 5 years of testing no conclusion.... i am still the same

[Kingspin]

Some say air ball is more random than a dealer spun wheel. I have to agree with what i have heard , i have seen things on air ball happen what i have not seen on a dealer spun wheel which makes me think air ball is a little harder to win with compared to dealer wheel.