Hector's Grail.

[ego]

The issue is that you know series of three and higher series is in front of you.
But just placing bets after ten events becomes chasing them.
As i just run into one ten attempts grow into twenty.
That is why is better to use some kind of indication or tendency that they start to show and then bet that series of two would become higher series.

That is all in a nutshell.

[speed]

to take advantage of deviation I would play this system in the following way:

1. wait until 10 spins where the color is not repeated 3 times (as in the original system)

2. then wait for the two virtual win in row on same color and put a bet on the third

3. If win you repeat first two processes again but next bet is be raises because it is better to play a positive progression when u exploit deviation,
    If you lose wait again for the two colors in a row and putting your bet on the third but remains same bet (1 unit)

4.stop-win or lose you can use like orginal system, but its not so important so that it can be adapt to your bank

[GLC]

I admit that in my testings, limited as they may be, I have to bring into question his statement that he's won his $50 a day for 25 days in a row unless he also included winnings at the poker table.  In our little casino, the competition can't be that great.

I didn't quiz him much because at the time it sounded pretty easy to understand and implement.  I don't doubt that there could be a little bragging on his part.  He struck me as the kind of guy who might stretch and embelish the truth a bit for effect.  Heck, I might be that kind of guy too.

I don't really know anything else about his playing method other than what I wrote.  I agree with RBH that only 1 bet is too little to take advantage of a little imbalance.  I mean, talk about gambler's falacy to the max.  That's why I added the progression and 2 bets.  Maybe even 3 or 4 attempts would make it even better.

Ego's idea of events is worth looking at.  Hector didn't seem to mean that from his brief explanation.  He spent most of the time at lunch telling me about his job that he, of course, was retired from for over 10 years.  Hector had to be 80+ years old.  He was a dead body transporter for the tribe.  When someone would die, he would go out and get the body and take it back to the morgue or funeral home depending on the situation.

As many of you may have probably heard about hispanics crossing the desert on foot without enough water to cover the long distances.  Many of them die in the desert from dehydration.  His job was to go and get the bodies and haul them in.  Either for the Border Patrol, sheriff's dept or just a family if someone died a natural death.  I thought, what an occupation? 

If you can work with this system and win, good.  If not C'est la vie.

I know that Atlantis has posted a couple of systems that were based on this idea of a correction of small imbalances but they didn't hold up well after intense testing.

I'm not endorsing the system.  I just wanted to have the joy of posting the story.  Kind of a tribute to a new acquaintance.  I don't get to that casino often.  So, our paths may never cross again.

[Nickmsi]

 George, thanks for posting this method.


Love to hear stories like this, makes the forum more interesting.


As Ego and Robeenhutt pointed out, this will eventually fail, you will run into a long series of repeats which will kill your bankroll.


However, you will have a lot of wins with this as well.  Perhaps with the right casino that has $.01 minimum bets and $250 table limit you might be able to out distance that one killer run.


To assist anyone who wishes to pursue this idea, I have attached a Tracker for all 3 even chances using this method.  The Tracker comes in manual mode for those who wish to enter data manually and it comes with an RNG mode for those who wish to test for 500 spins at a time.


Both are No Zero.  And both have a progression that you can change so you can try any progressions you desire. Column AQ is the one to change.  If you put in all 1's then you will be flat betting.


I will think about Ego's idea and see if I can adapt it to this spreadsheet.


Enjoy . .   Nick

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GLC,
I have been playing (practicing) a similar way for quite some time now, over 500+ sessions with a win target of +5, all FLAT betting.  The rules don't need to be as rigid as this individual, it's better to be fluid.  I observe the past 10-15 spins as a whole, it's the string of spins and the overall data that's important, not necessarily the very next bet.  It's always a guess, but an educated guess.  With practice you can become better and better, you see things that can be taken advantage of.  I never have large drawdowns, when i'm not winning, i'm breaking even.  That is the key, when others lose, I manage to break-even during times of chaos.  When the variance shifts into my favor I win, sometimes 3,4,5 spins in a row.
Through experience and practice I know that series of 1's (singles) and 2's (doubles) cannot last forever, if I observe this situation of many 1's and 2's in 10-15 spins, I know that streaks are coming soon.  The sands are shifting and you have to know when to capitalize on the change.  This is basic probability, in combination with reading randomness.  Through experience I also know the opposite is true, many streaks can tell you what is coming in the not so distant future.  When the string is in a period of flux (many singles and a few streaks), this is true random, and you need to play for it to continue.  A "true random" stream has MANY short series, with a FEW longer ones.
With practice imagine the damage you can do if you can consistently win +5 units a session?  You can bet up to the table max on red or black for each spin.  Flat betting is far superior than any progression when you have a superior bet selection.

[VLS]

Flat betting is far superior than any progression when you have a superior bet selection.

Agreed to the power of infinity.

[Twisteruk]

I play this way when I play Bac

The better thing with Bac, than Roulette, No Zero's. If its a Tie its a Push and Money back !

Whats it like playin with 2 of the Suckers !?!?

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I play this way when I play Bac

The better thing with Bac, than Roulette, No Zero's. If its a Tie its a Push and Money back !

what's it like playing with 2 of the Suckers !?!?

Your right, Bac has better Odds for an even chance game, however with Roulette I have 3 streams of data (H/L, R/B, O/E) and Bac I only have one (P/B).  I'm finding that with more streams, I have more opportunity to win my target of +5 in a quicker amount of time.  If you have a superior bet selection those two zero's are nothing more than an annoyance.  You only have to 'guess' a little better than 50%, with practice it can be done on a consistent basis.  Are you consistently earning positive units flat betting?

[Ralph]

When we put a chip on RED 1ts 18 BLACK and  1 GREEN, for the individual bet zero is minor, but for the longer runs its a obstacle.  On a NoZero table it is easier to survive, but still the 18 opposite on an EC are 18.

I play both flat and progression, and I got the best and the worse during progression.
Flat takes sometimes very long time.  A smoth progression up on winning streak I like the best.

[albertojonas]

Your right, Bac has better Odds for an even chance game, however with Roulette I have 3 streams of data (H/L, R/B, O/E) and Bac I only have one (P/B).  I'm finding that with more streams, I have more opportunity to win my target of +5 in a quicker amount of time.  If you have a superior bet selection those two zero's are nothing more than an annoyance.  You only have to 'guess' a little better than 50%, with practice it can be done on a consistent basis.  Are you consistently earning positive units flat betting?

Superior Bet Selection
??
-Can you give your secrets?
In my mind only attacking in a window of high probability...

[ll l ll l lll ll]

Superior Bet Selection
??
-Can you give your secrets?
In my mind only attacking in a window of high probability...

I explained what I do in the previous 2 posts.  With experience and practice, the game can be turned from a game of chance to a game of skill. 

[Ralph]

I explained what I do in the previous 2 posts.  With experience and practice, the game can be turned from a game of chance to a game of skill.

In my humble option I think it is an early statement. 

[ginger]

Hello Roulettefan,

I play several systems when I play roulette.
Most of the time I study the last 10 numbers on the sitebord of the table and make a prediction from there, with other words I predict the future from the past.

The good thing of that is that you can check or the dealer is spinnen stable or not , if not I go to another table.

What concerning your question well the only thing I can say is ...read that part of the story ( Red & Black ) from George ( GLC ) and stick to that......don't change it .

Succes

John            Rotterdam

@ginger
can you explain us how you play on even chance
wich bankroll
witch progression with an exemple thanl a lot

[Bayes]

It's always a guess, but an educated guess.  With practice you can become better and better, you see things that can be taken advantage of. 

Aha, a graduate from the Spike school of playing roulette. It truly is the holy grail:

* "read" the last 10-15 spins
* bet every spin
* achieve a 72% hit rate on the double zero wheel playing ECs.

The stuff of dreams... 

Oh, and not forgetting the most important thing -

* Never, ever, ever ever wise up a dummy. If you do say anything, keep it vague so no-one will have a clue what you're doing - "experience and practice" or "reading random". 

[Robeenhuut]

Aha, a graduate from the Spike school of playing roulette. It truly is the holy grail:

* "read" the last 10-15 spins
* bet every spin
* achieve a 72% hit rate on the double zero wheel playing ECs.

The stuff of dreams... 

Oh, and not forgetting the most important thing -

* Never, ever, ever ever wise up a dummy. If you do say anything, keep it vague so no-one will have a clue what you're doing - "experience and practice" or "reading random". 

I think 72% refers to double dozens  which is still excellent.