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Filter system

Started by GLC, Jul 22, 11:56 PM 2012

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GLC

Filter roulette system
This system was created when I first started to learn “law of the third” also called “law of uneven distribution”.
This law is based on the fact that during any 37-spin cycle, not all numbers will appear, but certainly over trials of millions of spins all roulette numbers will even out. Some numbers will appear one time, some will appear two times, and some will appear more that two times. Also some numbers will not appear at all.
On average, 26% of the numbers will appear (two or more times) in 37 spins of the wheel. Rarely (if ever) will all 37 numbers hit in 37 spins. This law is a proven fact derived from millons of spins of a roulette wheel.
In a 37 spin cycle 26.7% of the numbers will appear (two or more  times).
In the next 37 spins 16.8% of the numbers will appear (one or
more times) and also they appeared in the last 37 spins.
In the next 37 spins 10.5% of the numbers will appear (one or more times) and also they appeared in the last 37 spins.
In the next 37 spins 6.2% of the numbers will appear (one or more times) and also they appeared in the last 37 spins.
In the next 37 spins 4.3% of the numbers will appear (one or more times) and also they appeared in the last 37 spins.
Bet selection
You have to note 37 spins. Then you have to select those numbers that have appeared 2 or more times. We call these group of numbers “FILTER 1”.
Next, you have to note the following 37 spins. You have to select those numbers that have appeared 1 or more times and also appeared in the last 37 spins. We call these group of numbers “FILTER 2”.
Next, you have to note the following 37 spins. You have to select those numbers that have appeared 1 or more times and also appeared in the last 37 spins. We call these group of numbers “FILTER 3”.
Next, you have to note the following 37 spins. You have to select those numbers that have appeared 1 or more times and also appeared in the last 37 spins. We call these group of numbers “FILTER 4”.
On double zero wheel you will note 38 spins instead of 37.
Attacking
You will bet on FILTER 2, FILTER 3 and FILTER 4, but not in FILTER 1.
You will bet only if the total number selected is between 1 to 12 numbers.
There are two ways of betting:
Conservative way
You will bet the numbers selected (FILTER 2, 3 or 4) for (36 / total of numbers selected) spins.
Total numbers selected Number of spins to bet
1                                                  36
2                                                  18
3                                                  12
4                                                    9
5                                                    7
6                                                    6
7                                                    5
8                                                    4
9                                                     4
10                                                   3
11                                                    3
12                                                    3
If one of the numbers hit, stop betting.
This way you will win 62% of sessions approximately.
Aggresive way
You will bet the numbers selected (FILTER 2, 3 or 4) for 37 spins (38 spins in double zero wheel).
If one of the numbers hit and you make a profit, stop betting.
If one of the numbers hit and you don’t have a profit, go on betting (all the numbers selected).
This way you will win more than 82% of sessions approximately.
Money management
This system is designed for using flat bets. But you could use progression between sessions for faster recovery and take advantage of winning sessions. You can use the progression you are comfortable with. Example of progression you could use:
Fibonacci: 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34
Martingale: 1-2-4-8-16-32-64
D’Alembert: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13...
You will have two options when using progression:
Winning progression
The progression is increased when you had a winning session and is decreased when you had a losing session. It could be decreased one step in the progression or it could start all over again.
Losing progression
The progression is increased when you had a losing session and is decreased when you had a winning session. It could be decreased one step in the progression or it could start all over again.
Bankroll
The bankroll need for flat bet is 150 units. For progression the bankroll depends on the progression.
Examples
First 37 spins
15-32-18-24-8-33-32-29-33-10-11-18-22-7-24-24-14-20-9-19-36-6-16-7-27-14-36-8-12-12-2-7-23-6-15-15-20
FILTER 1 = 15-32-18-24-8-33-7-14-20-36-6-12
Next 37 spins
17-21-32-2-11-16-33-33-15-33-3-13-28-13-7-34-27-14-26-32-19-2-29-36-25-5-5-27-23-15-15-31-19-30-23-12-20
FILTER 2 = 15-32-33-7-14-20-36-12
Next 37 spins
21-26-15-32-32-20-31-34-16-19-35-32-3-4-2-19-15-28-33-35-0-14-21-33-11-10-34-4-25-18-30-36-17-19-10-35-21
FILTER 3 = 15-32-33-14-20-36
Next 37 spins
0-32-13-7-2-27-29-6-17-3-25-36-27-2-5-14-5-26-28-22-35-27-27-0-15-1-9-11-36-12-22-17-4-15-3-33-0
FILTER 4 = 15-32-33-14-36
Next 37 spins
11-2-30-1-11-25-36-6-21-32-31-13-34-28-8-11-11-13-23-6-31-22-9-35-8-13-15-7-13-30-26-26-26-14-18-0-14
You first start betting when you have FILTER 2, you win at spin 3 when 15 hit.
Then you continue betting when you have FILTER 3, you win at spin 2 when 32 hit.
Then you continue betting when you have FILTER 4, you win at spin 7 when 36 hit.
Any thoughts on how this might perform?
I've tested it a couple of times and won both times pretty easily, but it's a bear to test and you better have some real time to spend playing because you have to sit through 5 series of 37 spins each.  That's 185 spins.  About 4 hours in a B&M casino.  That's just for 1 game.
I don't see why you couldn't start a second game with the second set of 37 spins and then a 3 game with the 3rd set of spins.  Maybe it wouldn't be such a good idea because you would be betting multiple games with the same numbers and really bad run could be compounded.
I don't have a horse in this race.  If anyone's interested, tell us what you think.
GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

VLS

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I don't see why you couldn't start a second game with the second set of 37 spins and then a 3 game with the 3rd set of spins.  Maybe it wouldn't be such a good idea because you would be betting multiple games with the same numbers and really bad run could be compounded.

I guess you would treat them all as a single group to avoid duplicate bets.

Perhaps even some "layout grouping" in dozen, double-street, corner, street and split to save units at the beginning if possible?
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Ralph

All bets repeats according to the law of third. It is so with the numbers they have equal chance to show. 1/37. After a show it has 1/37, when more numbers are  played, the chance of repeating increase, after 18 numbers it is 50%, and still increase.

Some see a way to use it, even if it is not any better odds. I use it much, just by the fact a number can sleep more or less forever, make it probably useful.

If you bet the last shown,  adding that number to the next bet, its is from my testing a higher hit rate than you just pick random the same way. This is probably due to in most sessions one or a few number will show very late, and you are with this method not betting them.
If the first repeating shows in 7 spins you are a head, otherwise it needs more hits.

All bets behave the same, the Illuminati method posted by Warrior, use this with dozen.

If you bet one number 37 spin, the hitting rate is about 68% on average (STD 1). If we do a lot of spins, we can read the swing in STD, and try to use a moment with high rate of repeated numbers.

I did some tests, still small number of tests. Used betting last shown, added to the next bet, went on until plus. Did it three times, then the third time I bet all the repeaters in the last three, added a chip on each if missing. result never less than 100 units. In some way the filter system is like this, but you bet virtually the first sessions. Maybe we should check the repete rate if it is low in first and decrease in second, try more until a increasing tendency show, and then bet.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Ralph

The frequency of repeaters goes up and down, after a time with few, they use to increase. Which means if we lose some sessions, we can stick to the play.

I have done a lot of plays (10000) using bet the last hit. It has happen I got all number repeated, except one, and down 300 units, after a high number of spins, never was on plus. I usually restart on 6 empty pocket. The next run I use 2 chips and normally get back to balance. I have got as most 4 bad runs in a row.
If we track the first 37 spins, and the second as well, we might find which direction it goes.

The frequency's of repeaters OR MORE IMPORTANT the skip between the repeaters, is to look for, a few hit without some losing spins between adds up the bankroll.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

TwoCatSam

*********This way you will win more than 82% of sessions approximately.******

GLC

Is the above a mathematical fact?  (I know I should not ask that, but I did.)  "Win"?  Does that mean you might win a minimum of 1u 82% of the time and lose hundreds of units getting there?  Or do you bet 100u and win 182u? 

If it is a mathematical fact, this is the time to form a coalition and create a robot.

I'll read it more carefully when I'm fully awake.

Thanks!

Sam

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

TwoCatSam

A further question........
*******You have to note 37 spins. Then you have to select those numbers that have appeared 2 or more times. We call these group of numbers “FILTER 1”.  This I understand.

Next, you have to note the following 37 spins. You have to select those numbers that have appeared 1 or more times and also appeared in the last 37 spins. We call these group of numbers “FILTER 2”.*********  This I don't.

OK, I have in my possession the last 37 spins from Dublin.  11 of them are repeats.  I have formed "FILTER 1".....correct?

Now I'm tracking my second trot of 37 spins.  Am I looking for numbers "that have appeared 1 or more times" in

A.  The whole first trot, including those number that only hit once....OR
B.  Only the numbers in "FILTER 1" that hit 2 or more times?

Seems you would be looking at only those that hit 2 or more times, else why would you need to know if any in "FILTER 1" hit 2 or more times.

Reading my own post, I find another way to ask the question:

While creating FILTER 2, do we only look at FILTER 1?

Maybe I need to read your post more carefully.  I may edit this post.

Sam
EDIT:  In reading your examples, I find that you form FILTER 2 from FILTER 1.  I'll leave this post in case someone else is having the same problem.  Delete if you wish.
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

TwoCatSam

GLC

I've spent a couple of hours on this today and I'm going to boil it down and you tell me if I'm right.

The numbers that hit twice or more times in the first trot of 37 could be said to be "hot".
You bet that they will stay hot in the second trot of 37 while you're betting on them.

So basically, you're betting on "hot" numbers until you get a winner.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

TwoCatSam

No interest from anyone?
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Turner

This must be an RNG online system set to "fast spins with no animation"

All that tracking for 2 hours in a real casino, the pit bosses will think you are in there for a warm and a free coke.

I adore LOT ideas. This is a tremendously interesting idea...but not realistic for me and the wife in the casino. I need to get on and win or lose. Im happy to do either.

GLC

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 23, 10:43 AM 2012
GLC

I've spent a couple of hours on this today and I'm going to boil it down and you tell me if I'm right.

The numbers that hit twice or more times in the first trot of 37 could be said to be "hot".
You bet that they will stay hot in the second trot of 37 while you're betting on them.

So basically, you're betting on "hot" numbers until you get a winner.

Sam

That's the way I read it Sam.  Like I said, I just copied and pasted the system.  What little testing I've done has been positive, but like TF said, 2 hours of tracking is only worth it if you can play for a chip size big enough to make it worth while.

I post systems like this just in case someone in the future reads it and decides to get serious with it.  I often re-read old post from years gone by on the other forums.  A lot of gold nuggets got left behind.  It's because fools gold is shinier and we thought it was the real thing only to get to the assayer's office to find out our mistake.  It's like a friend of mine told me the first time we went out panning for gold on Lynx Creek and I asked him if a shiny fleck I saw in my pan was gold.  He didn't even look at it, he just told me "No!"  "If it's gold, you won't have to ask.  You'll know it without a doubt once you see the real thing."
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Robeenhuut

This reminds me of Manucher's system created by some Spanish guy.
Matt

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