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Series/single bets using lines.

Started by Turner, Oct 07, 02:10 PM 2013

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Turner

heres a warning.

This is correct bet selection in my view, based on probability to some degree.

betting on observation and study for weeks.

This doesn't make you a winner

what wins is leaving in plus.

Setting a stop-loss.

Being happy with more than yesterday. More than yesterday could be: Yesterday +12 u total, today 15u. its 3u more. You are a winner.

Being totally and utterly focused on the rules you set.......NEVER DETER FROM THEM !!!!!!!

I don't do the progression if the loss would take me below yesterdays total +1u

This is the best way.

My Bankroll? 50 Euro...my balance? 80 Euro....in 3 days.   

I don't know how this will go...it may be a fu&ck up......but I know 1 big thing 100%.

If I "have to stop" because of bad runs.....I will have 50 Euro

What I started with. Because now....my total stop-loss is EVEN

(by the way...I whimped out and played 3 6 not 6 12)


Turner

OK....if you thought I had bored you enough....you were wrong

This chart is why i am doing this.

read my signature and correct me if I am misguided

SD 3 is not seen. This is red Standard Deviation charted over 100 spins.....around last 23. This is roughly what I am looking at each time

But high SD is seen regressing to the mean twice

But what is seen many times is SD regressing to the mean in little waves.

The little waves are wins. The big wave is a loss.

TwoCatSam

OK

Let me ask it another way:

X
X
X
  X.............At this point you are looking a win here (in red)
  X..........if you lose that bet, you bet it will return as in the blue
X

Close?

Thanks

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

GLC

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 10, 09:34 PM 2013
OK

Let me ask it another way:

X
X
X
  X.............At this point you are looking a win here (in red)
  X..........if you lose that bet, you bet it will return as in the blue
X

Close?

Thanks

Sam

Sam, all Turner is saying is that if we've been having steaks, we start betting for a chop.  If we have RRRB since we've had streaks, we bet that the B isn't the beginning of another streak.  We bet for the B's to end 2 times or at most 3 times.  Our progression is 1-2-2.  If we get RRRBBBB then we lost all 3 bets and it's time to wait for another trigger.  And start betting again at 1 unit.

One way to determine if we should bet for chops after a streaky section or bet for streaks after a choppy section is the following:

When we see a chop, we subtract 1 from a running score.  When we see 2 of the same color in a row, we add 1 to a running score.

Example: RB  this is a -1.   BB this is a +1.   RBBRBRR this is -1+1-1-1-1+1 or -1, 0,-1,-2,-3,-2 for a running total.  We're at -2 which means we have had more chops than streaks.  If we were at + anything it would mean we had more streaks than chops.  All we have to do is pick a point to start betting for the opposite.  Let's say we pick -5 or +5.  So, any time we're at a running total of -5, after the next color change, we start betting for a streak for up to 3 times.

If we're at +5, after the next color change, we start betting for a chop for up to 3 times.  Or we could start betting for chops as soon as we reach +5 even without a color change.  That's a personal decision.

Once again these are just my thoughts on the system since you and I are the only ones still up at this time of night.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Turner

Sam.....correct....but if the first comes in its a win obviously

GEORGE..kinda

I'm not playing for streaks. I'm always playing for chops. Having 10 ECs....I nearly always have a run of streaks to bet against. that's the point. Having so many ecs.....one is always ready
And.....I'm not playing 122.....its 12. I just said you could play for 3 to stop with 122. I'm not doing that here.

Its not a progression to cure a loss....its another bet for a second prediction.

It has to be visually obvious and obvious quickly. Dublin bet can be quick.

Again...for justification...waiting for SD 3 so you can play for regression is waiting for a rare event. While that's not happening....Smaller SDs are turning back to the mean all the time in little waves. that's what I'm betting on without needing a calculator.

Ego refers to this as a hover state. Its egos help that gave me the idea.

rossco


biagle

Quote from: GLC on Oct 11, 12:27 AM 2013
Sam, all Turner is saying is that if we've been having steaks, we start betting for a chop.  If we have RRRB since we've had streaks, we bet that the B isn't the beginning of another streak.  We bet for the B's to end 2 times or at most 3 times.  Our progression is 1-2-2.  If we get RRRBBBB then we lost all 3 bets and it's time to wait for another trigger.  And start betting again at 1 unit.

One way to determine if we should bet for chops after a streaky section or bet for streaks after a choppy section is the following:

When we see a chop, we subtract 1 from a running score.  When we see 2 of the same color in a row, we add 1 to a running score.

Example: RB  this is a -1.   BB this is a +1.   RBBRBRR this is -1+1-1-1-1+1 or -1, 0,-1,-2,-3,-2 for a running total.  We're at -2 which means we have had more chops than streaks.  If we were at + anything it would mean we had more streaks than chops.  All we have to do is pick a point to start betting for the opposite.  Let's say we pick -5 or +5.  So, any time we're at a running total of -5, after the next color change, we start betting for a streak for up to 3 times.

If we're at +5, after the next color change, we start betting for a chop for up to 3 times.  Or we could start betting for chops as soon as we reach +5 even without a color change.  That's a personal decision.

Once again these are just my thoughts on the system since you and I are the only ones still up at this time of night.

GLC

i saw somewhere this:) chek it: link:://download.saliu.com/roulette-systems/MAGIC.pdf

Turner

Quote from: rossco on Oct 11, 05:13 AM 2013
Turner is no scammer.
rossco.
Thank you rossco.
I just read a lot.

GLC

Turner,  I didn't mean to muddy the water, just trying to help a fellow Yank who's getting screwed royally by a rouge president who has appointed a bunch of children who think running a country is akin to playing monopoly.  They're hell bent on destroying our way of life and there may be too many voters on the dole for the earners to stop it.  I'm thinking about moving to Croatia and joining Ivica on the sands of the Adriatic Sea.  Draw my pension and go to the casino each day and win enough for bread and wine.  Maybe try to keep up with him on his swims each day.  Probably add about 15 years to my life!

Anyone who wants to join me, I'm sure you're more than welcome.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

TwoCatSam

George

Thanks for that and I agree totally.

Did you know that on November 26 the residents of New Jersey will be able to bet on line?  Here's what just kills me:  It's ONLY for N.J. residents.  I thought they would throw it country wide so we could bet.

Maybe Vegas will do that.

I have checked with NJ and all you need to be a resident is a permanent address which you use and a NJ driver's license.  I envision apartment complexes renting phony addresses for just this purpose.  You could always mail yourself junk mail so the address would appear with the Post Office.  Yep, it can be done!!  Credit cards--no problem...  Let's go George!!

I would be a snap to get a cell phone in Jersey and just say that's your only phone.  With Hide Me Arse, you could come off a tower near your "home".
Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

teo

Quote from: GLC on Oct 11, 10:57 AM 2013
Turner,  I didn't mean to muddy the water, just trying to help a fellow Yank who's getting screwed royally by a rouge president who has appointed a bunch of children who think running a country is akin to playing monopoly.  They're hell bent on destroying our way of life and there may be too many voters on the dole for the earners to stop it.  I'm thinking about moving to Croatia and joining Ivica on the sands of the Adriatic Sea.  Draw my pension and go to the casino each day and win enough for bread and wine.  Maybe try to keep up with him on his swims each day.  Probably add about 15 years to my life!

Anyone who wants to join me, I'm sure you're more than welcome.

GLC

--you can chose any of the 8 appartments/a top is for 4 ppl./--can spit on the sea,walk 15 min.to casino/you can google opatija--lungo mare walk/and go with me squid fishing.

probasah

Quote from: teo on Oct 11, 01:17 PM 2013

--you can chose any of the 8 appartments/a top is for 4 people./--can spit on the sea,walk 15 min.to casino/you can google opatija--lungo mare walk/and go with me squid fishing.

teo, i think you have found heaven on earth. Or is it just me? Refreshing thoughts and imagery in your message.

Chapeau!
Alex

Turner

got to 103 euro (80 yesterday).....liked 100 so played 3 not 6, won, played 6, won (112 E), lost 6....but didn't play the 12. Stuck at 106 for today.

+ 26Euro.

End of session. Progressed to 12 once.....all others were straight.

I play for the single series if the last 8 or so event are very dominant in multi series....like this

x
x
x
   x
   x
x
   x
   x
x
   x
   x
   x
   x
x
x
   x
   
5 vs 2 single series, play for another single (or 2 series in progression)

x
   x
   x
x
   x
x
   x
   x
   x
   x
   x
   x
x
x
   x
   x
x

This looks good to go at first glance....but it 4 vs 4 single series....no bet

You must count!

RouletteMaster

Turner      I play 6 numbers and 9 numbers. I play them as even chances and I play them on their own. when playing as even chances I play them as singles and series. I mainly play in b&m, and only recently started playing online. your way of tracking is definitely good for online casinos where you can take an excel to and get more than 3 ecs on the cards. well done, and really like it and very innovative.

now what I find is the intuitive way of playing the series and singles. you may argue its not intuitive - but this is just my opinion. am not saying its wrong either/don't take me negative.

just wanted to share another way of playing singles and series. please use it depending on how useful you find it to be. there are 2-3 elements here.

1. even though law of series says series of 2 should happen 25% of the time, I find it happening more than that if you are using lines. fallacy, but see for yourselves.
2. now this is a mathematical way of playing. you know there is a 50-50 chance in every step of singles/series. single has 50% chance to 2 series, 2 series has 50% chance to become3 series and so on. now how to capitalize it. follow a 1-3 progression. bet for any 2 series to end. if it becomes a 3 series, bet once more for 3 series to continue to 4 or more series. I will explain with simple R and B. see RR, bet for B. now see RRR, bet for RRRR. lose both find next opportunity. first bet 1 unit, second bet 3 unit. you play continuously and you have a bet almost every spin using your lines. Just taking the sheet where you posted 102 gain in 48 spins, you will gain just under 50 units playing only the first 5 spins.
36
13
23
35
14

if interested, let me know I will continue more ideas on this.

arizsumda

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Oct 11, 12:25 PM 2013
George

Thanks for that and I agree totally.

Did you know that on November 26 the residents of New Jersey will be able to bet on line?  Here's what just kills me:  It's ONLY for N.J. residents.  I thought they would throw it country wide so we could bet.

Maybe Vegas will do that.

I have checked with NJ and all you need to be a resident is a permanent address which you use and a NJ driver's license.  I envision apartment complexes renting phony addresses for just this purpose.  You could always mail yourself junk mail so the address would appear with the Post Office.  Yep, it can be done!!  Credit cards--no problem...  Let's go George!!

I would be a snap to get a cell phone in Jersey and just say that's your only phone.  With Hide Me Arse, you could come off a tower near your "home".
Sam

Tried to tell you so back in March when you brought this us, your reply back then was the following

"I follow the news on this very carefully.  It is for the entire nation and most probably people in the UK and elsewhere.

Hear me now and believe me later!

TwoCat"

Don't know what news you follow, the cartoon network doesn't seem to be working.  And, if you expect Vegas to be any different, you are wrong again, it won't happen, and when DE starts internet gaming followed by PA it will be the same, only allowed with an internet connection within the state

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