@ Caleb regarding your biased numbers. Genuine questions

[Steve]

So what ?

Its fine, learning is good. You know i started ignorant and truely clueless too. We all do. But we quickly learn when we get our heads out of our asses and actually try to understand what's being said, and put the actual truth before what we want to be the truth.

Do i need a computer that costs >80k in order to place bet that consists of 15 numbers ?

No but you do to get a super high edge, or an edge at all on many wheels.

Maybe you know a better way to measure the most critical variables that determine the winning number. What is it? Repeaters?

That’s nonsense. This business model is totally shit !

Im sure you can get a 150% edge too.

What edge do I get from betting 15 numbers ? Why not 18 numbers ? Or 20?

If you see the public demo recording on my site with my middle- range computer, it's betting 15 numbers,  no progression, winning 93% of spins. It's actually a much higher edge if we bet 3 numbers instead, but the profit per hour is more important than edge.

Why not 20 or so numbers? Any reasonably experienced ap understands to bet only numbers with an edge.

Why betting more numbers is going to change my odds ?!

When you know specific numbers with better than random odds, betting as many of them as possible maximizes profit per hour.  Also understand odds and payout are different. You can change odds by betting lots of random numbers. But you'll still lose because the payouts are short. You can only overcome that by increasing the accuracy of predictions to be better than random.

Oh dear $80k illegal computer

Actually, legal in around half of casinos.

And nobody gives a crap if you don't like the concept of a 150% edge while i watch live from home. I like it. I do very well with it.

You need good eyesight, strong pair of legs and functioning brain

If youre referring to vb, it's no comparison. If you can beat almost every wheel with 20-150% edge, while you watch multiple teams (who don't even need to look at the wheel) via live video from the other side of the world, go do it 

[Steve]

Nope, not a AP.  I play online, with a team.  Multiple systems all at once.  Same idea as playing a team with AP.  As for cookies, I know my way around the kitchen so I can make my own.  As for becoming a AP, I value e my time too much to spend that much time going from casino to casino, country to country , worrying about detection or hours and hours of tracking.  Too much like a job, I spend 2-3 hours a day in my office, maybe another hour reading, the rest of the time I spend with my wife, kids and living my life doing what I want. 

Nimo, it's quite clear you're full of shit. But i don't have time to explain why.

[Roulettebeater]

Its fine, learning is good. You know i started ignorant and truely clueless too. We all do. But we quickly learn when we get our heads out of our asses and actually try to understand what's being said, and put the actual truth before what we want to be the truth.

No but you do to get a super high edge, or an edge at all on many wheels.

Maybe you know a better way to measure the most critical variables that determine the winning number. What is it? Repeaters?

Im sure you can get a 150% edge too.

If you see the public demo recording on my site with my middle- range computer, it's betting 15 numbers,  no progression, winning 93% of spins. It's actually a much higher edge if we bet 3 numbers instead, but the profit per hour is more important than edge.

Why not 20 or so numbers? Any reasonably experienced ap understands to bet only numbers with an edge.

When you know specific numbers with better than random odds, betting as many of them as possible maximizes profit per hour.  Also understand odds and payout are different. You can change odds by betting lots of random numbers. But you'll still lose because the payouts are short. You can only overcome that by increasing the accuracy of predictions to be better than random.

Actually, legal in around half of casinos.

And nobody gives a crap if you don't like the concept of a 150% edge while i watch live from home. I like it. I do very well with it.

If youre referring to vb, it's no comparison. If you can beat almost every wheel with 20-150% edge, while you watch multiple teams (who don't even need to look at the wheel) via live video from the other side of the world, go do it

Steve
You are actually making the same error as many other gamblers do.
You’re assuming that the edge obtained by the computer is valid over the long term.

I have witnessed Session in real casino where a player using a computer, the player at certain point started losing patience due to the fact that the ball started to behave crazily, in which the ball was landing 2 to 3 pockets aside.

The player was covering a spot of 15 numbers too.

After dealer change, his computer was producing more correct expectations.

In short, a computer won’t raise your odd under any circumstances.

It still relies on the dealer and the wheel variables.

[Steve]

Understand i respond here to help. Some people pay large sums for my time. Here it's free, although i have limits.

Yes i have more experience than most people by far. No i don't know it all. But i can certainly recognize a losing approach or backwards logic when many others can't.  But thats actually just basic knowledge, which members should but don't have.

It makes no difference that im admin. Im on the same level like any member. If i see bullshit, i'll explain why it's bullshit. And if people get offended, they should stop telling bullshit.

Rather than criticize me or my preferred methods, which aren't relevant at all to most discussions, understand what i say about methods that fail. Again, attack the message, not the messenger.

Its fine for someone new wanting to learn. But there are lots of people who are full of shit, and it becomes more about defending their honor instead of truth.

Perhaps don't argue with me about whose method is easier and more profitable. You're unlikely to win that debate. I don't particularly care if you don't like my methods. Don't use them. Why do you care what i do?

Likewise i don't care what you do. But i do care when members post harmful and misleading claims, that should be addressed and corrected, to ensure positive progress instead of bullshit and circles.

[The General]

I suspect that Roulettebeater  isn't understanding what VB is.

[Steve]

You’re assuming that the edge obtained by the computer is valid over the long term.

Say what?

I have witnessed Session in real casino where a player using a computer, the player at certain point started losing patience due to the fact that the ball started to behave crazily, in which the ball was landing 2 to 3 pockets aside.

I think youre full of shit. But even if you aren't, so what if they hit the right area and just missed out? Thats actually a good sign. Because you don't know better, you think it's bad.

The player was covering a spot of 15 numbers too.

To have many near wins with that many numbers virtually never happens. It would likely mean the computer or application was poor.

After dealer change, his computer was producing more correct expectations.

Dealer has no effect on the physics.

In short, a computer won’t raise your odd under any circumstances.

Oh dear jesus, why? Son, you got no idea.

It still relies on the dealer and the wheel variables.

Unless the dealer spins the rotor super fast or closes bets super early, the dealer is negligible.

And the computer measures the variables. Thats what its for.

Rb, please. This is hurting my head. Youve got no idea.

[Roulettebeater]

I suspect that Roulettebeater  isn't understanding what VB is.

VB?
We are talking about computers not about VB.

VB isn't how the computers work.

[Steve]

Stop it. Please.

[Roulettebeater]

Steve,

never understimate people you don't really know.
look here, i have my own computer, here are two examples how my computer predicts the winning number.

the only thing is that my computer predicts two hot spots on the wheel, so far i am not able technically to make the computer predicts only one side... so i have two cover both zones.

what do you think?

[The General]

VB?
We are talking about computers not about VB.

VB isn't how the computers work.

There's the problem.  You don't know what VB is. 

[Roulettebeater]

There's the problem.  You don't know what VB is.

VB with naked eyes?
no, thank you! i went far than that.. i have automated it, automated the whole process!



you can keep thinking whatever you think about me

[The General]

VB with naked eyes?
no, thank you! i went far than that.. i have automated it, automated the whole process!



you can keep thinking whatever you think about me

No you didn't.  For starters what you're doing isn't vb.  You're not taking into account the speed of the wheel, or the distance the ball will travel on the track. 

Yes, naked VB can be a tough skill to master.

[Roulettebeater]

No you didn't.  For starters what you're doing isn't vb.  You're not taking into account the speed of the wheel, or the distance the ball will travel on the track.

didn't you look into the images i uploaded?
i invite you again to look at them. There you can see that the predictions are OK.

[The General]

didn't you look into the images i uploaded?
i invite you again to look at them. There you can see that the predictions are OK.

The graphics don't demonstrate VB.

Can you explain the program?

[Roulettebeater]

The graphics don't demonstrate VB.

Can you explain the program?

well, as i said VB with naked eyes is for starters.
i went beyond that, i have created an algorithm that estimates the speeds and take in input the last 4 numbers, based on which the program will run a simulation and predicts the most probable zone on which the ball will land.

the only issue i am facing right now is that the program pointing to two zones on the wheel. i am not able at the moment to invalidate one zone during the prediction.

the program is  suitable for online casino as well as land casino.
i can't give more details on the algorithm (in public), guys who share same interest and have demonstrable skills in this domain are welcome to contact me.