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sentinel3

Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Feb 03, 07:12 PM 2018
Looks like a happy group where everyone is making money in the casino :wink:   I thought it is easy to speak truth when you are behind an online identity.  So yes, everyone is really happy making money here.  :-X
Hi Tin Soldiers,

How is your testing going. Is that amazing strikerate holding? I will be amazed if you reach say 2000 games. And its still in the twenties. After 364 games. Im averaging 15--1.

My first game of the day is the only thing thats holding over 20--1. :smile:

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 03, 11:47 PM 2018
Hi Tin Soldiers,

How is your testing going. Is that amazing strikerate holding? I will be amazed if you reach say 2000 games. And its still in the twenties. After 364 games. Im averaging 15--1.

My first game of the day is the only thing thats holding over 20--1. :smile:

If he or, for that matter, anyone else is playing this method all day long, the strike rate is inevitably going to gravitate toward the 7-1 neighborhood.

No amount of tweaking can mitigate the harmful consequences of playing this method all day long.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

cht

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 04, 02:56 AM 2018
If he or, for that matter, anyone else is playing this method all day long, the strike rate is inevitably going to gravitate toward the 7-1 neighborhood.

No amount of tweaking can mitigate the harmful consequences of playing this method all day long.
Playing hit and run of any form will also gravitate towards 7-1.

That's why I reserve my comment about the original JL PB, not to sound negative but that's what it is 7-1 +- variance.

There is reason for caution that the readers are aware this 7-1(a little worse due to zero)  will remain unchanged even with hit and run play.

sentinel3

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Feb 04, 02:56 AM 2018
If he or, for that matter, anyone else is playing this method all day long, the strike rate is inevitably going to gravitate toward the 7-1 neighborhood.

No amount of tweaking can mitigate the harmful consequences of playing this method all day long.
Not sure about 7--1 Dr. But absolutely sub 12--1. I have 14,056 games on record. And at no time has the strikerate EVER hit 7--1. In fact its never ever been under 8--1. But I definately agree 22--1 cannot be sustained longterm.

The original PB just playing HL. Held between 10--1 & 13--1. Playing an absolute maximum of 10 games a day.

The first game of the day is a completely different story though. It NEVER drops below 15--1. And thats why its my banker bet of the day. And always will be...

Tinsoldiers

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 04, 04:40 AM 2018Not sure about 7--1 Dr. But absolutely sub 12--1. I have 14,056 games on record. And at no time has the strikerate EVER hit 7--1
I don’t play it anymore. I was just playing with it to prove my point on variance. I have my own methods of playing that am content with.  Thanks for asking.

Let me ask you one more thing to make you believe on this. I know you keep a good record of all games with lots of statistics. Can you take the last 200 first games you played and publish the patterns you were betting against. Only that 8th pattern. Not the entire game. Those 200 patterns. I will show you something unique.

sentinel3

Quote from: cht on Feb 04, 03:51 AM 2018
Playing hit and run of any form will also gravitate towards 7-1.

That's why I reserve my comment about the original JL PB, not to sound negative but that's what it is 7-1 +- variance.

There is reason for caution that the readers are aware this 7-1(a little worse due to zero)  will remain unchanged even with hit and run play.
CHT I never fear ZERO. I treat the green goblin as a banker bet. I cover it. I just played a game of PB. Where i was left with LLL. First 2 steps were LL. One the third I always cover the zero aswell as the last step of the prog.

And enjoyed a nice jackpot win. Of 36 units. It happened to last wednesday too. As I said to the DR.

In 14,056 games I have on record. Even the original PB never dropped to its true odds. Hit and run is definately responsible for the strikrate holding over 10--1 for 11 years.

I have no doubt about that..in tracking large samples of numbers while testing my other strong system MATRIX VERTICAL 6. I have seen 3 , 4 even for games of PB lose consecutively.

In hit and run play. A double loss is the worst experience of my 11 year career with this solid system.

You cannot argue with that. :smile:

sentinel3

Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Feb 04, 04:46 AM 2018
I don’t play it anymore. I was just playing with it to prove my point on variance. I have my own methods of playing that am content with.  Thanks for asking.
Thats a shame Tin Soldiers. Because we will never know if that would have held for YOU into the thousands. I know it hasnt for me. 16--1 is the absolute highest strikerate ive achieved overall in 11 years.

Only the first game of the day has held a 20 plus strikerate longterm...

sentinel3

Quote from: Tinsoldiers on Feb 04, 04:46 AM 2018
I don’t play it anymore. I was just playing with it to prove my point on variance. I have my own methods of playing that am content with.  Thanks for asking.

Let me ask you one more thing to make you believe on this. I know you keep a good record of all games with lots of statistics. Can you take the last 200 first games you played and publish the patterns you were betting against. Only that 8th pattern. Not the entire game. Those 200 patterns. I will show you something unique.
Okay you will have to give me until this evening or tomorrow TS. I have to cook sunday lunch soon...

cht

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 04, 04:49 AM 2018
CHT I never fear ZERO. I treat the green goblin as a banker bet. I cover it. I just played a game of PB. Where i was left with LLL. First 2 steps were LL. One the third I always cover the zero aswell as the last step of the prog.

And enjoyed a nice jackpot win. Of 36 units. It happened to last wednesday too. As I said to the DR.

In 14,056 games I have on record. Even the original PB never dropped to its true odds. Hit and run is definately responsible for the strikrate holding over 10--1 for 11 years.

I have no doubt about that..in tracking large samples of numbers while testing my other strong system MATRIX VERTICAL 6. I have seen 3 , 4 even for games of PB lose consecutively.

In hit and run play. A double loss is the worst experience of my 11 year career with this solid system.

You cannot argue with that. :smile:
Nope not arguing with your run of good luck. It's good to know you did well today.  :thumbsup:

I just completed my session doubled br after 10games, the fifth in the series.

Tomorrow another session followed by another 3days Wed to Frid.

Sentinel,  I recommend you play at b&m, it's just great.  :thumbsup:

sentinel3

Quote from: cht on Feb 04, 05:31 AM 2018
Nope not arguing with your run of good luck. It's good to know you did well today.  :thumbsup:

I just completed my session doubled br after 10games, the fifth in the series.

Tomorrow another session followed by another 3days Wed to Frid.

Sentinel,  I recommend you play at b&m, it's just great.  :thumbsup:
[/quote)Lol I have played real casinos many time CHT. I get lazy sometimes thats all. Its easy to get on my Galaxy or ipad. And play an online game.

What you do with BACCARAT fascinates me. But ive never been able to understand how you translate PB to it. And if you can give me the 8 PLAYER BANKER combimations you would track. To reach that 8th pattern.

Baccarat is a game I would love to try in a real casino.

cht

Here's the baccarat 8 patterns -

1. B B B
2. B B P
3. B P B
4. B P P
5. P P P
6. P P B
7. P B P
8. P B B

Banker has a 5% commission for regular baccarat.
For super-6 variant,  the payout for Banker win on 6 total is 50%

I recommend to play with baccarat to avoid the risk of zero that steal your win.

Casinos consider there's no advantage play with baccarat. This means you can win up to $20k per bet, the pitboss thinks you are just one lucky gambler. You can win over a few $100k without raising alarm, then come back to do it again no problem whatsoever. It's just luck wins,  the math says so.  :thumbsup:

At my local casino there are guys who win a few million. Ofc there are plenty more who lose millions more. Our $100k is chicken feed compared to those whales.

For roulette,  if advantage players place late bets AFTER spin even for $1k bet they will be closely watched. WTF for $1k and you will be scrutinised like criminal cheats ?!?!   :o

sentinel3

Quote from: cht on Feb 04, 07:07 AM 2018
Here's the baccarat 8 patterns -

1. B B B
2. B B P
3. B P B
4. B P P
5. P P P
6. P P B
7. P B P
8. P B B

Banker has a 5% commission for regular baccarat.
For super-6 variant,  the payout for Banker win on 6 total is 50%

I recommend to play with baccarat to avoid the risk of zero that steal your win.

Casinos consider there's no advantage play with baccarat. This means you can win up to $20k per bet, the pitboss thinks you are just one lucky gambler. You can win over a few $100k without raising alarm, then come back to do it again no problem whatsoever. It's just luck wins,  the math says so.  :thumbsup:

At my local casino there are guys who win a few million. Ofc there are plenty more who lose millions more. Our $100k is chicken feed compared to those whales.

For roulette,  if advantage players place late bets AFTER spin even for $1k bet they will be closely watched. WTF for $1k and you will be scrutinised like criminal cheats ?!?!   :o
Wow thankyou so much CHT. Im gonna start tracking hands on BETWAY. And see if I can win like with roulette.

I like what you said about being able to win a heap because unlike Blackjack. They see no advantage (cheating) possible. This would be a great advantage when i start playing walk in casinos more. I can alternate between Roulette and Baccarat. Just need a couple of weeks practice. So I fully understand what im doing.🌐🌏🌐

RouletteGhost

Just write the possible patterns on a baccarat card.

Using the history board a bet should come fast
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

sentinel3

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Feb 04, 10:10 AM 2018
Just write the possible patterns on a baccarat card.

Using the history board a bet should come fast
Thanks rouletteghost. Im going to start tomorrow tracking a few games to get a feel for it. How long would a typical game take to get to that last pattern 8?

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 04, 10:44 AM 2018
Thanks rouletteghost. Im going to start tomorrow tracking a few games to get a feel for it. How long would a typical game take to get to that last pattern 8?

In terms of waiting time, it should be similar to roulette. To cut down on the waiting time, I would suggest you join the game once a shoe has started.

Look at the electronic board where there should be at least 20-30 hands already decided. The trigger will come within a few hands  after that.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

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