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Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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Andre Chass

Quote from: Apolloo on Feb 05, 10:49 AM 2018
Im going to re test these 7 sessions but in a sniping fashion.

RRB.
RR.   bet once on R   -1u

Next trigger

EOO
EO.   bet once on E -2u

And so on.

1,2,4 prog (7u)
_________

The way i have been testing..

RRB
RRB   bet. BBR.

is just jumping onto the losing streaks alot.
________
The sniping way ill test should catch more wins

Apollo

Can you explain the way you are playing?

Which modifications did you do?
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Apolloo

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 05, 02:15 PM 2018
Apollo

Can you explain the way you are playing?

Sure ill do my best..

*Playing all three ECs

*Trigger for a bet is...

OOE
OO.      <<   bet once on O

or

OEE
OE.      <<  bet once on O


if you lose on that bet -1u then stop and wait for a new trigger on any of the 3 ECs betting 2u next trigger.... If lose 4u on next trigger.
(1,2,4 stop -7u)


*if two triggers at the same time it doesn't qualify as a bet.



Example

8 10 21
25 4 12 
21 2 5 << no bet 2 qualified
7 16 10       
9 17 8   
33 11 (16).  L-1
32 29 13     
23 12 36
20 11 3
23 2 20
26 1 30
8 0 18 (22). W+2
11 25 21
30 31 32
18 32 11
25 33 25
20 11 25
15 23 2
2 35 6
29 11 8
12 25 8
17 35 21
6 21 (7)    W+1
8 20 15 0
20 25 15
6 25 (27). L-1
34 19 (2)   W+2
5 14 (1)    W+1
3 6 18
31 31 12   
13 28 (9)    L-1
35 35 (10).  W+2


Hope you understand.

Thanks
Grind hard with the patience and discipline 👊

Andre Chass

Thanks Apollo

I see you don't use progression on the same bet if you lose You wait for a new trigger and double the bet.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Apolloo

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 05, 02:30 PM 2018
Thanks Apollo

I see you don't use progression on the same bet if you lose You wait for a new trigger and double the bet.

Yeah but look..  Maybe just unlucky couple sessions but.

Soon as i said its looking good, BANG!! it goes down hill.... Typical isn't it.

Session 1.    (+5).   
Session 2.   (+4)
Session 3.   (+6)
Session 4.   (-2)
Session 5.   (+5)
Session 6.   (-2) looked ok here
Session 7.   (-6)
Session 8.   (-12)


  :yawn:
Grind hard with the patience and discipline 👊

cht

Quote from: Apolloo on Feb 05, 02:41 PM 2018
Yeah but look..  Maybe just unlucky couple sessions but.

Soon as i said its looking good, BANG!! it goes down hill.... Typical isn't it.

Session 1.    (+5).   
Session 2.   (+4)
Session 3.   (+6)
Session 4.   (-2)
Session 5.   (+5)
Session 6.   (-2) looked ok here
Session 7.   (-6)
Session 8.   (-12)


  :yawn:
I spent a lot of time testing a lot of such pattern bet and ALL of them didn't work. I don't want to sound negative to tell you that earlier but you will find out soon enough with your own testing. It's very, very difficult to find a system that work,  that's the truth.

How about JL updated PB, what does your test tell you?

Andre Chass

Quote from: cht on Feb 05, 02:45 PM 2018
I spent a lot of time testing a lot of such pattern bet and ALL of them didn't work. I don't want to sound negative to tell you that earlier but you will find out soon enough with your own testing. It's very, very difficult to find a system that work,  that's the truth.

How about JL updated PB, what does your test tell you?

CHT

You've said the you play similar like me and it's working for you.

Why are you saying otherwise now?
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Apolloo

I play PB daily around 4,5 games a day.  Doing ok i had a 23 streak..then a little bad patch and working back to raising bankroll again now.

Just a hobby i guess 😂 trying things out.

(Looks like ill carry on testing inevitable streaks... Good so far)
Grind hard with the patience and discipline 👊

Andre Chass

I still think this is the best way for me

I wait for a pattern to form:
BBR (starting with R)                                     
                                                 
I have to bet:
RRB (starting with B)

But I wait for two virtual losses:
BR (starting with R)

Then i start the 3 step progression:
RBR

I never bet against: BBB, RRR,  BRB,  RBR

You can bet all signals at the same time: B/R, H/L, O/E
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

cht

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 05, 02:56 PM 2018
CHT

You've said the you play similar like me and it's working for you.

Why are you saying otherwise now?
I made it clear in my earlier post that there are similarities BUT how I play is very different.

The differences as I pointed out earlier are -

1. what patterns I bet, and

2. when I bet them.

I can play the same system with roulette,  baccarat or sitbo I still get the same result. It's based on statistics.

cht

Quote from: Apolloo on Feb 05, 02:58 PM 2018
I play PB daily around 4,5 games a day.  Doing ok i had a 23 streak..then a little bad patch and working back to raising bankroll again now.

Just a hobby i guess 😂 trying things out.

(Looks like ill carry on testing inevitable streaks... Good so far)
If you are doing good,  keep at it.

Andre Chass

Quote from: cht on Feb 05, 03:02 PM 2018
I made it clear in my earlier post that there are similarities BUT how I play is very different.

The differences as I pointed out earlier are -

1. what patterns I bet, and

2. when I bet them.

Ok I understand it.

Can you say to us what and when you bet them?
How do you proceed?
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

cht

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 05, 03:05 PM 2018
Ok I understand it.

Can you say to us what and when you bet them?
How do you proceed?
Apolloo has tested the various methods to find out that eventually they don't work. Anyone can do the test they will find out they don't work too.

I have posted on this forum earlier that for systems play to work there must be a basis why they work. The basis is math statistics.

When I made that claim I got attacked.

Math statistics will not work with random.... bla,  bla,  bla.....

Only AP and roulette physics work.

Do I give a fark really ?

I believe what I have perfected and now play for real money at b&m casino - 100% return on session br.

Again I can't prove that so...

I posted my play that double the br in 45-49spins twice. Tell me who can do that ?

Oh,  that's fake because you tried many attempts then post the successful try.

I say go fark yourself. This is as far that I will go - I will not leave my games permanently in the rated games.  Don't believe done, I couldn't care less. I'm here to learn how to make money not build a reputation of roulette god on forums.

Conclusion - math statistics work.

BUT you got to be one heck of a braniac to make it work.

That's it from me.

Good luck everyone. I hope you find what you are looking for. That you make loads of money from the casino. The very best wishes.

cht


Andre Chass

CHT

Ok you can't give us a simple and straight answer: What's your way to bet.

I think for me is enough. That's why I don't share my repeats strategy. When I want some help I don't have it.
Im coming back to my hg repeats strategy.

Good luck



Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

cht

Quote from: Andre Chass on Feb 05, 03:40 PM 2018
CHT

Ok you can't give us a simple and straight answer: What's your way to bet.

I think for me is enough. That's why I don't share my repeats strategy. When I want some help I don't have it.
Im coming back to my hg repeats strategy.

Good luck
You should stick to your hg repeats strategy - I tested that too.

Good luck Andre.

RayManZ

Quote from: cht on Jan 27, 10:36 AM 2018
One of the main reasons why I don't play PB with roulette is due to the zero.

There quite a bit of changes I made to the original JohnLegends PB mostly because I don't like progressive bet sizing betting all 3 columns, it's flat bet sniper style for me.

The 1st change is when do I start the game. I record the 1st 9 results to find out which holds the majority - Player or Banker. Eg. Player holds the majority I start the game when the 1st column of the 3 series starts with Player. Early Banker series is ignored. If the count is a tie, extend another series.

P B P
B T P
P B P Total 5Player 3Banker, Player majority.
B B P
B P B
P B P Start game.

The 2nd change I make is I don't bet PB. I wait for one of the series pattern to appear that is immediately followed by the next series that is a repeat of an earlier series pattern.

P B P
B T P
P B P Total 5Player 3Banker, Player majority.
B B P
B P B
P B P 1 Start game.
B P P 2
P P B 3
P B P 1repeat (column 2 and column 3 is different)

Comparing the last 2 series by column, column 2 and column 3 is different. When at least 2 out of 3 columns are different it signals a bet potential - trigger. I plan to bet against pattern 3 at the 3rd column, provided column 1 and 2 is same with pattern 3.

P B P
B T P
P B P Total 5Player 3Banker, Player majority.
B B P
B P T
P B P 1 (Start game)
B P P 2
P P B 3
P B P 1repeat
P P    Column 1 and 2 is same as pattern 3, bet Player

P P P means win
P P B means lose

The game for the shoe ends when pattern 8 appears. Ignore the ties after the initial count.

I play it at the etg bacs for 20 shoes a day with my partners. High strike rate but boring grind.

Still playing this CHT?

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