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Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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romano0327

Hello Sentinel,  I have a question.  You advice to play around 10 sessions a day,  what if we loose one of the sessions,  how many do we have to win in order to recover the previous  loss (7 units) ?  Do you continue to play if you loose a session until you recover or do you take the loss for the day?

cht

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 08, 09:21 AM 2018
It can always be improved CHT. Dr Sudoku only plays the first two steps of the prog. And has a 12-1 strike rate doing so. So he is quadrupling his losses.

I dont stray from 1 2 4 for this reason.

I keep trying to get across the first game of the day is where I make my money. Its consistency has no equal in roulette. Nobody can show me another 7 unit risk system that can run at 27/1 for an entire year. No one.

Tbh, I do better, much better.
BUT we make money,  not compete against each other.  :)


Thats why I am now betting 4 times as much on that first game. As the ones that follow it.

Its a phenom that must be exploited. And now that ive improved my strikerate overall..I cant even imagine what that first game might produce.

I won a 100 plus days in a row twice over the last 11 years just playing HL.

With random now selecting the bet i could have years where it only loses 9 or 10 times in the entire year.

Then what are any of you gonna say. Its just luck. Like f##k it is. Im currently 38--1 for the year. The best start to a year ever.

It scares even me to think what might now be possible with that first game. If I reach december 31st having only lost 10 games. It will not surprise me.

:ooh:
Do you realise that your 1st game of the day is different from other peoples 1st game of the day who live in different timezones ?

It's better you provide the exact time in gmt when you play your 1st game of the day and which online live dealer casino you play at in order for others to replicate your result.

sentinel3

Quote from: cht on Feb 08, 10:25 AM 2018
Do you realise that your 1st game of the day is different from other peoples 1st game of the day who live in different timezones ?

It's better you provide the exact time in gmt when you play your 1st game of the day and which online live dealer casino you play at in order for others to replicate your result.
CHT I play it at Ladbrokes online casino between 3am and 6am GMT...

ozon

That  should not be too negative.
I carried out some tests
I just like to know why something can work, and why not something.
I played 1000 spins with Andre Chass with an idea, i.e. I played against two paterns using 1-1-3 progression.
What I noticed was that for the first 500 spins I was on the plus side of 17 units, then in the course of 100 spins a few lossing progressions, the next 300 spins climbing on the plus and the next 100 spins lost again.
I ended the end of the game with +6 units, but the tests were carried out on a wheel without a zero.

What is the theory behind this?
The losses occur in a large extent in clusters, which is why there is a good chance that we will end up in a longer period in which roulette will not adapt to our rare pattern.
An example is CHT which uses rare patern and win periods are longer than losing clusters.
In a way, this would confirm the possibility of hitnrun strategy to avoid variance.

But in a very long time it may not keep up, because sometimes we should hit the clusters periods.

sentinel3

Quote from: ozon on Feb 08, 12:00 PM 2018
That  should not be too negative.
I carried out some tests
I just like to know why something can work, and why not something.
I played 1000 spins with Andre Chass with an idea, i.e. I played against two paterns using 1-1-3 progression.
What I noticed was that for the first 500 spins I was on the plus side of 17 units, then in the course of 100 spins a few lossing progressions, the next 300 spins climbing on the plus and the next 100 spins lost again.
I ended the end of the game with +6 units, but the tests were carried out on a wheel without a zero.

What is the theory behind this?
The losses occur in a large extent in clusters, which is why there is a good chance that we will end up in a longer period in which roulette will not adapt to our rare pattern.
An example is CHT which uses rare patern and win periods are longer than losing clusters.
In a way, this would confirm the possibility of hitnrun strategy to avoid variance.

But in a very long time it may not keep up, because sometimes we should hit the clusters periods.
It doesnt work like that in my experience. And now that random itself is selecting the bet for me its even less likely to happen.

What is a very long time. How many games must be played before you understand. A winning system wins for alltime.

There will be less successful PERIODS. But overall the strikerate is ALWAYS in the positive.

Theres never a time it isnt. So if you never ever go below BREAK EVEN LEVEL 7--1. How do you ever lose money?

LIke I said before I dont want to hear from anyone who plays 20 games and loses 3 or 4 times. When youve played 200 games at least exactly as I instruct. Then we can have a conversation.

People have to put some WORK IN for themselves...

ozon

You do not understand one thing
Play PB without stops for 10k spins, how do you think what the result will be?
Some samples of 10k spins will be positive, some negative, but in the long run PB does not persist, moreover you know about it because you played it on the rng without a break.

I am trying to determine what is happening in your game and draw conclusions.
Why it works

I think PB is not much to talk about here, it's just a search strategy that uses rare paterns and that's what we're looking for, a strategy with rare paterns.
Where roulette needs time to adapt to the rare cluster of paterns.And  we got longer  winning periods  of  time, than lossing cycle.

I try to go further, if hit n run works and rare patterns, I'm also wondering how far the edge is.

A very good technique is playing CHT, where the game is flat with a set Target profit and stoploss, which is not bigger than 12 units.

denzie

Ozon right on the money. As i said...for some it will win but for MOST its a loser. Wish i was wrong but im not  :-\
As spins roll off our predictions get better

sentinel3

Quote from: ozon on Feb 08, 01:00 PM 2018
You do not understand one thing
Play PB without stops for 10k spins, how do you think what the result will be?
Some samples of 10k spins will be positive, some negative, but in the long run PB does not persist, moreover you know about it because you played it on the rng without a break.

I am trying to determine what is happening in your game and draw conclusions.
Why it works

I think PB is not much to talk about here, it's just a search strategy that uses rare paterns and that's what we're looking for, a strategy with rare paterns.
Where roulette needs time to adapt to the rare cluster of paterns.And  we got longer  winning periods  of  time, than lossing cycle.

I try to go further, if hit n run works and rare patterns, I'm also wondering how far the edge is.

A very good technique is playing CHT, where the game is flat with a set Target profit and stoploss, which is not bigger than 12 units.
Ozon you are not understanding how to apply PB.
Nobody sits there and plays 10k spins.

sentinel3

Quote from: denzie on Feb 08, 01:10 PM 2018
Ozon right on the money. As i said...for some it will win but for MOST its a loser. Wish i was wrong but im not  :-\
You are wrong. Maybe everyone needs to play exactly as I do. In terms of time. Casino and number of games a day. Then we will see.

If im winning with this thing for 11 years an counting its a winning system period.

You are the classic excuse maker Denzie. Too lazy to give something a proper go. You will play 20 games lose 3 or 4 then dismiss for alltime.

ozon

Denzie, you're right, certainly a lot of people will lose money because they will go on lossing clusters.
This is certainly not a mathematical edge and it is not measurable by percentage, for everyone it will be different.

I still think that any strategy hitnrun will survive more than 10k triggers, I will be positively surprised

Sentinel , I remember  days  were  i  played 5k spins sessions  on BV rng  casino


ozon

But this concept from hitnrun and  rare pattern will never work on  rng software
Do not even try.
If something is  in this concept , it only  work for live tables.

Apolloo

Works for me and lots of others.
It works because we 8 patterns and the wheel has to close the 7th and 8th pattern in 6 spins one after the other. It only does this ones per every 12 wins.
It has streaks to parley bet on.
Also hardly ever has back to back losses during the same session on that particular EC.

ill be grinding it anyway knowing it wont give +1000u every week playing at £1 stakes. But ill try work my way up the stakes.
Grind hard with the patience and discipline 👊

sentinel3

Quote from: ozon on Feb 08, 01:21 PM 2018
Denzie, you're right, certainly a lot of people will lose money because they will go on lossing clusters.
This is certainly not a mathematical edge and it is not measurable by percentage, for everyone it will be different.

I still think that any strategy hitnrun will survive more than 10k triggers, I will be positively surprised

Sentinel , I remember  days  were  i  played 5k spins sessions  on BV rng  casino
Then you cant be helped. I played 3 games of pattern breaker today. ON A REAL WHEEL. They all won. I played. 4 games yesterday. They  all won. I played 6 games tuesday they all won. Etc.

I didnt play 5k spins on something that is not even real roulette.

Im not sure you can understand whats being said here and thats part of the problem.

Until you understand that BV rng has nothing to do with REAL ROULETTE. You will stay in the dark.

sentinel3

Quote from: ozon on Feb 08, 01:32 PM 2018
But this concept from hitnrun and  rare pattern will never work on  rng software
Do not even try.
If something is  in this concept , it only  work for live tables.
Again only a fool even thinks about playing an RNG. Its false roulette and always will be.

Andre Chass

Your target profit is make $30 a day?! Play hit and run style for 3 games using progression 10, 20, 40. You will need to figure out when the conditions are favorable to bet.

If you play all day long you will lose for sure.
You have to avoid the variance.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

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