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*PATTERN BREAKER*

Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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cht

Quote from: Ricky on Feb 15, 04:41 PM 2018
To beat roulette or any E/C game the method is just one component. Yes, you do need a good method to start with. But to win you need:
1. DISCIPLINE
2. PATIENCE
3. SMART MONEY MANAGEMENT
4. A METHOD THAT CAN OVERCOME RANDOM

Pattern Breaker meets requirement 4 but 1,2 and 3 are either built into an automated system or rely on the individual player. Most people do not have these qualities and are called gamblers. Those that do, like Sentinel, are called Advantage Players.

I am working on proving the 4 elements can be automated and having some good success so far with PB. Hoping this continues so that it will show that you do not need to deploy hit and run tactics if you can control 1,2,3 while playing 4.

regards,
Ricky
Hi Ricky,

A few questions to clarify -

Do you believe the 1st signal that appear among the 3ECs has a higher probability of success ?

Do you believe the 1st game played by any person regardless the timezone he lives has a higher probability of success ?

Do you believe that limited number of random selection of games played on randomly chosen wheels a day aka short term hit and run will give a higher probability of success ?

Thank you.

sentinel3

Quote from: Ricky on Feb 15, 04:41 PM 2018
To beat roulette or any E/C game the method is just one component. Yes, you do need a good method to start with. But to win you need:
1. DISCIPLINE
2. PATIENCE
3. SMART MONEY MANAGEMENT
4. A METHOD THAT CAN OVERCOME RANDOM

Pattern Breaker meets requirement 4 but 1,2 and 3 are either built into an automated system or rely on the individual player. Most people do not have these qualities and are called gamblers. Those that do, like Sentinel, are called Advantage Players.

I am working on proving the 4 elements can be automated and having some good success so far with PB. Hoping this continues so that it will show that you do not need to deploy hit and run tactics if you can control 1,2,3 while playing 4.

regards,
Ricky
Thats it in a nutshell Ricky. Those 4 elements make a very powerful compound. I believe I have them now. I had to learn to discipline myself from sloppy loose play. I still have my moments.

But. Should you prove P.B.R can stand up without the use of HIT & RUN. I will be very very happy.

Ive never believed in anything more than P.B.R. If it carries on like its started. I will be very happy.

My winning streak stands at an incredible 44 straight games. Only one streak overall stands above it now. 46 games. Set in 2010.

I am going to try and break it later today.

Ricky

Quote from: Apolloo on Feb 15, 05:44 PM 2018
*How often if ever do you see all 3 ECs lose within the same game.

Hi Apollo. That's a good question. As I start with fresh spins after a win and reset all E/C trackers I cannot tell. I would need to go back through the history and continue playing the previous game with the other E/C until the next qualified to see if it would have won or lost.

What I will do when I post my next graph of my real play is I will export the history and someone can work it out.

My initial results from one day shows that I am winning mostly on the first or second spin. I had one loss do far which required a recovery. I am glad this happened as I got to test this scenario. Had a small miscalculation in the progression which I have since fixed but the recovery of 4,8,16 for two games is working well.

Game is running at the moment so I cannot extract any data. Will try an post tomorrow after the end of my current session. I am targetting for a 30 euro win.

regards,
Ricky


Ricky

Quote from: bikemotorman on Feb 16, 01:35 AM 2018He said like the pros on this forum you must treat it as a business no emotions and you must be capitalized.
Hi Bikemotorman,
I absolutely agree. I mean to define the SMART MONEY MANAGEMENT to include sizing your BANKROLL and only risking a certain percentage of it in any one session. You should also include a RECOVERY bankroll for the occasion when you hit a losing streak and need to deploy the recovery process.

My intention is to absolutely treat this venture as a business (tax free). I have already started a ledger with a starting bankroll of $200 which I have now grown to $560 from a few visits to the B&M casino. I now am trialling the PB on an online casino to see if the process of making and withdrawing money is feasible for me. Where I am from I am restricted by which casinos I can join. For example the UK casinos like Ladbroke and bet365 do not allow customers outside their  jurisdiction.


sentinel3

Quote from: Ricky on Feb 16, 07:35 AM 2018
Hi Bikemotorman,
I absolutely agree. I mean to define the SMART MONEY MANAGEMENT to include sizing your BANKROLL and only risking a certain percentage of it in any one session. You should also include a RECOVERY bankroll for the occasion when you hit a losing streak and need to deploy the recovery process.

My intention is to absolutely treat this venture as a business (tax free). I have already started a ledger with a starting bankroll of $200 which I have now grown to $560 from a few visits to the B&M casino. I now am trialling the PB on an online casino to see if the process of making and withdrawing money is feasible for me. Where I am from I am restricted by which casinos I can join. For example the UK casinos like Ladbroke and bet365 do not allow customers outside their  jurisdiction.
To be honest Ricky a recovery bankroll has never been required. At least not by myself.

I came to one understanding after the first 4000 games of PB had been played. And that is INDEED you must run this like small personal business.

You must understand that the most important number for PBR is 100. And its the only measurement of math involved in roulette. Can your system produce a profit over basically all of its 100 game sessions. Or at least 4 out of 5 of them.

If the anwser is YES. You have the game beaten. Over my 14,000 plus games played to date. Not a single 100 game session has fallen below break even level.

My worst result in 11 years is 89--11. Six times in 11 years and over 14,000 games. My best result is 94--6. Thirteen times over the same span.

My most popular split is 92--8. But the thing is. Over 13,500 of these games were played on just HIGH LOW. Those numbers will surely improve with PATTERN BREAKER REVISED. In my latest 100 game session im 44--0. This is unseen by me ever before. Usually by now I would have had at least one loss usually two. At the moment my record of 94--6 looks like its about to be broken.

Im going to play 56 games of pattern breaker over the next 4 days. Throw HIT AND RUN out of the window. For 56 games. To complete my latest 100 game session ALOT FASTER THAN EVER BEFORE.

Just to see if PATTERN BREAKER REVISED. Truly is superior to its former version. And can withstand more regular play.

Ricky

Quote from: cht on Feb 16, 01:42 AM 2018Hi Ricky,

A few questions to clarify -

Do you believe the 1st signal that appear among the 3ECs has a higher probability of success ?

Do you believe the 1st game played by any person regardless the timezone he lives has a higher probability of success ?

Do you believe that limited number of random selection of games played on randomly chosen wheels a day aka short term hit and run will give a higher probability of success ?

Thank you.

Hi CHT,
Firstly, the idea of using the first E/C that meets the PB rules is to fight RANDOM with RANDOM. You let RANDOM decide for you which bet you are going to make. Initially when I started programming my BOT I actually bet on all 3 E/C bets as they qualified. So when one bet completed on H/L I continued waiting for the trigger on B/R and E/O. I did not reset the game for all EC after the first qualified. I since discovered that this was not how others were playing the PB. My observation playing this way is that although I was able to make bets more frequently and I won most bets, I did experience a high number of losses from different E/C. So its like staying in the storm too long and getting hit by Random. Coincidence or not, once I did start resetting the game after the first win or loss, my strike rate improved dramatically.

In terms of Hit and Run, if you are playing manually without a disciplined bot to follow the rules, then continuous play can lead to exhaustion and mistakes can creep in. You start to lose patience and discipline. My goal is to prove that the game can be played continuously if the rules are followed and proper stop/losses are implemented. I also believe the best system is not playing only one method but playing a number of methods and alternating between them. This will help to dodge RANDOM's ability to catch up to one method and deliver the killer blow.

cht

Quote from: Ricky on Feb 16, 07:53 AM 2018
Hi CHT,
Firstly, the idea of using the first E/C that meets the PB rules is to fight RANDOM with RANDOM. You let RANDOM decide for you which bet you are going to make. Initially when I started programming my BOT I actually bet on all 3 E/C bets as they qualified. So when one bet completed on H/L I continued waiting for the trigger on B/R and E/O. I did not reset the game for all EC after the first qualified. I since discovered that this was not how others were playing the PB. My observation playing this way is that although I was able to make bets more frequently and I won most bets, I did experience a high number of losses from different E/C. So its like staying in the storm too long and getting hit by Random. Coincidence or not, once I did start resetting the game after the first win or loss, my strike rate improved dramatically.

In terms of Hit and Run, if you are playing manually without a disciplined bot to follow the rules, then continuous play can lead to exhaustion and mistakes can creep in. You start to lose patience and discipline. My goal is to prove that the game can be played continuously if the rules are followed and proper stop/losses are implemented. I also believe the best system is not playing only one method but playing a number of methods and alternating between them. This will help to dodge RANDOM's ability to catch up to one method and deliver the killer blow.
I understand to allow random to select when to start which EC game.

I posted much earlier an excel sheet of the 3ECs on a rolling basis of all 3 ECs that's designed for this purpose.

Your bot scan on rolling basis or static ?

I do agree to play this game for random to select the start. I have long suspected (without empirical evidence) that the hit rate might be higher.

About hit and run question - my question is whether there could have better statistical hit rate ? The same for the 1st game of the day ?

I find no math rational behind this arbitrary hit and run proposition aside from the psychological aspect.

Therefore, your current bot play will in some way point to whether this revised PB has a net positive edge - it's looking good. :thumbsup:

The other aspect is sentinel's win rate blast through any win rate ceiling we have seen. The positive sd is phenomenal. Have you any thoughts about that ? And if anyone else who has played PB according to sentinel's complete rules has seen a similar high win rate ?

sentinel3

Quote from: cht on Feb 16, 08:12 AM 2018
I understand to allow random to select when to start which EC game.

I posted much earlier an excel sheet of the 3ECs on a rolling basis of all 3 ECs that's designed for this purpose.

Your bot scan on rolling basis or static ?

I do agree to play this game for random to select the start. I have long suspected (without empirical evidence) that the hit rate might be higher.

About hit and run question - my question is whether there could have better statistical hit rate ? The same for the 1st game of the day ?

I find no math rational behind this arbitrary hit and run proposition aside from the psychological aspect.

Therefore, your current bot play will in some way point to whether this revised PB has a net positive edge - it's looking good. :thumbsup:

The other aspect is sentinel's win rate blast through any win rate ceiling we have seen. The positive sd is phenomenal. Have you any thoughts about that ? And if anyone else who has played PB according to sentinel's complete rules has seen a similar high win rate ?
The win rate just got SERIOUS.

I have been playing this game for 11 years in June. My alltime winning streak was 46 straight games. Set playing just HIGH LOW. Back in September of 2010.

Its taken me nearly 7.5 years to top it. If anything was gonna do it. It is PATTERN BREAKER REVISED. A new mark has been set.

🛑🛑🛑47 GAMES IN A ROW🛑🛑🛑

Now im going to try for 50. I just cant believe this myself. It was always threatening a monster streak. Because these days there are no close losses. I lose I win 12. I lose I win 17. I lose I win 47! This has stunned even me...

Winner

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 16, 09:04 AM 2018
The win rate just got SERIOUS.

I have been playing this game for 11 years in June. My alltime winning streak was 46 straight games. Set playing just HIGH LOW. Back in September of 2010.

Its taken me nearly 7.5 years to top it. If anything was gonna do it. It is PATTERN BREAKER REVISED. A new mark has been set.
🛑🛑🛑47 GAMES IN A ROW🛑🛑🛑

Now im going to try for 50. I just cant believe this myself. It was always threatening a monster streak. Because these days there are no close losses. I lose I win 12. I lose I win 17. I lose I win 47! This has stunned even me...
Congrats on your success  . what is the shortest and the longest you wait for triggers ?

cht

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 16, 07:53 AM 2018
To be honest Ricky a recovery bankroll has never been required. At least not by myself.

I came to one understanding after the first 4000 games of PB had been played. And that is INDEED you must run this like small personal business.

You must understand that the most important number for PBR is 100. And its the only measurement of math involved in roulette. Can your system produce a profit over basically all of its 100 game sessions. Or at least 4 out of 5 of them.

If the anwser is YES. You have the game beaten. Over my 14,000 plus games played to date. Not a single 100 game session has fallen below break even level.

My worst result in 11 years is 89--11. Six times in 11 years and over 14,000 games. My best result is 94--6. Thirteen times over the same span.

My most popular split is 92--8. But the thing is. Over 13,500 of these games were played on just HIGH LOW. Those numbers will surely improve with PATTERN BREAKER REVISED. In my latest 100 game session im 44--0. This is unseen by me ever before. Usually by now I would have had at least one loss usually two. At the moment my record of 94--6 looks like its about to be broken.

Im going to play 56 games of pattern breaker over the next 4 days. Throw HIT AND RUN out of the window. For 56 games. To complete my latest 100 game session ALOT FASTER THAN EVER BEFORE.

Just to see if PATTERN BREAKER REVISED. Truly is superior to its former version. And can withstand more regular play.
I believe if you play continuously without mistakes, your win rate will not be affected.

sentinel3

Quote from: cht on Feb 16, 09:11 AM 2018
I believe if you play continuously without mistakes, your win rate will not be affected.
We will see CHT.

sentinel3

Quote from: Winner on Feb 16, 09:10 AM 2018
Congrats on your success  . what is the shortest and the longest you wait for triggers ?
The game that won my 47th game was as short as it can be 21 spins. Yesterday I had a game that took 57 spins to qualify a trigger. But now that RANDOM is choosing the bet. Very few games last longer than 48 spins. 36 being the average game length...

cht

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 16, 09:26 AM 2018
The game that won my 47th game was as short as it can be 21 spins. Yesterday I had a game that took 57 spins to qualify a trigger. But now that RANDOM is choosing the bet. Very few games last longer than 48 spins. 36 being the average game length...
Based on your games played, is there a possibility that losses tend to appear in longer games ?

sentinel3

Quote from: cht on Feb 16, 09:34 AM 2018
Based on your games played, is there a possibility that losses tend to appear in longer games ?
No Cht there is no advantage over game length. I have lost just as many games when they finish under 36 spins as I have when they are 48 spins plus.

Winner

Quote from: sentinel3 on Feb 16, 09:26 AM 2018
The game that won my 47th game was as short as it can be 21 spins. Yesterday I had a game that took 57 spins to qualify a trigger. But now that RANDOM is choosing the bet. Very few games last longer than 48 spins. 36 being the average game length...
Ok thanks .So on average your making a bet every 24 minutes .

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