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Started by Johnlegend, Apr 08, 05:46 PM 2011

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atlantis

For instance here is a baccarat session example and result using FLEX betting for EC's:
start @1-1-2

B
B
P
P
P
P
P
B
P  L1             -1
P  W1           +0
B
P  W1           +1
P  W1           +2
B
P  W1           +3
P  W1           +4 
P
B
B   L1            +3
B
B
B
P
B  L1            +2
B  W2           +4
B
B
P
P  L1            +3
B
B  W1           +4
B
P
B  L1             +3
B  W1            +4
B
P
P  L1             +3
B
B  W1            +4
B
B
P
P  W1            +5

+5 IN 44 OUTCOMES
HIGHEST BET=2
HIGHEST CYCLE=1-1-2

Would this cyclic betting series work out and be profitable if applied to PB Sentinel or PB Andre? Sure, it could take longer but perhaps less riskier?? Just wondering - if anyone cares to take time out to try it that way........  :)

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Andre Chass

Hi Ricky,

I was traveling and did not have time to see and answer all the messages . What were the results of your bets? Did you have losses? I've only had one loss so far.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 02, 03:10 AM 2018


Yesterday's experience losing on Andre's version of PB after so many successful attempts is a timely reminder that random can pop up at any time. The challenge is not being there when he does. And for both Andre and me to lose at such close proximity in time playing on different casinos is a reminder that this method is not foolproof. After struggling to find the pattern for two days at B&M casino and online for a week and then to popup like that was uncanny. Since then I've been having a big think about the 3-4 step progression now that I am looking at increasing my betsize while playing only 3 sessions a day and 6 sessions a week.


Cheers,
Ricky


No one ever said that the method is foolproof. I always said that the method wins a lot more than it loses.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Ricky

Quote from: Andre Chass on Apr 02, 12:09 PM 2018

No one ever said that the method is foolproof. I always said that the method wins a lot more than it loses.
Yes Andre it does. Only had one loss so far and one close call saved by the Tie. Overall on my Online play I'm ahead 13 euro due to a 140 euro loss. 8W 1L

cheers,
Ricky

sentinel3

Quote from: DoctorSudoku on Mar 31, 07:32 PM 2018


JL,
My thinking on this issue is that if anyone is playing PB on a daily basis, then he/she should play it at the most 2 games a day.

In my experience, PB and related rare pattern-based games only work (or seem to work) when played on a hit-and-run basis and also only when played sparingly.
ABSOLITELY DOCTOR.

By the end of this year. I will be at a point I NEVER play more than 2 games a day max.

But those games must be worth at least 50 units each by that point.

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: viclimks on Apr 02, 08:14 AM 2018
Ricky.....Which is safer bet for 1 2 4 progression....roulette or baccarat?


The answer to this question is nearly beyond any debate.

For most, maybe all, EC bet selection methods, the baccarat bets of Banker / Player  is the better option compared to their counterparts in roulette (R/B, O/E, and H/L).

Why?

The tie in baccarat does not punish you as do the 0/00 in roulette.

As for the 1 2 4 progression, that is of questionable merit regardless of whichever game you want to apply it on.
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

DoctorSudoku

Quote from: atlantis on Apr 02, 10:52 AM 2018
Did anyone try the 3-bet progressive cycle betting series?

1-1-2
1-2-2
2-2-2
2-2-3
2-3-3
3-3-3......etc

If all 3 bets in a cycle are lost move up to next bet cycle.

If a win occurs in a cycle then restart from the beginning of that cycle line UNLESS level or ahead overall in which case restart from cycle 1 (1-1-2)

A.


Thanks for another interesting suggestion.

The above progression converts PB into a grinder EC betting method -- and that actually has its own merits (which deserves more testing).
What is the fastest way of destroying your bankroll at the casino?

Play roulette with GLC's progressions.

Andre Chass

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 01, 10:32 AM 2018
Another Close call. Since the last loss I recovered one game betting after 8th pattern. Did not wait to the 9th and won on 1st step and then just won on a tie on the 3rd step with this. I was prepared to go for broke and bet a 4th step but lucky I covered the Tie for a bonus win. Andre let me know if you are getting more close calls because it reminds us to tread with caution.


Some days the game goes easy like a Sunday morning and I win a lot. Some days I play for hours and I have to go to step 4 of the progression.
Today, for example, is not being a good day for me. Too much stress...
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Ricky

It's like an undefeated boxer. When he loses for the first time he loses a bit of self confidence and begins to question himself. In the next fight he has more caution and a little fear that the defeat will occur again.
That's how I'm feeling... I'm scared
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

CHT, Doctor, Ricky, Sentinel3

That was close...
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Well, my bankroll keeps growing up. If I start having big losses using this strategy I simply stop using it. Simple like that.
I had to go to the four step progression again and it's scared me a lot.
I have to stop using the 4 step progression or I will get a heart attack.

PS: But at the same time I think the baccarat variance is very limited. So if you have a large bankroll and put some money on Tie you can go far away using progression.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Ricky

Quote from: Andre Chass on Apr 02, 09:14 PM 2018
Well, my bankroll keeps growing up. If I start having big losses using this strategy I simply stop using it. Simple like that.
I had to go to the four step progression again and it's scared me a lot.
I have to stop using the 4 step progression or I will get a heart attack.

PS: But at the same time I think the baccarat variance is very limited. So if you have a large bankroll and put some money on Tie you can go far away using progression.
Hi Andre
It seems to be coming in waves.
The gambling gods are testing our patience.
I suggest if you have a large bet on for step 1 and 2 and you have had a few losses the skip bet 3. If it would have lost then go for broke with step 4. If it would have won the you have only lost 2 bets and should be able to recover easier in next games

Alternatively wait for  the 9th hand and a full 3 peat before start betting. I have never seen a 5Peat so a 4 step progression from the would be safer.

What you can also do is reduce your bet size gradually over the 4 steps so you aim for less profit at each step eg
100
100
250
510

The numbers scare me but they need to be backed up with a larger bankroll
It’s all in proportion. If you are scared after losing you probably are betting too high for your bankroll

Last thing is cover the tie at least on those big bets. Since I have been doing this I am feeling more comfortable and have been saved more than once with it.
Cheers
Ricky


sentinel3

Quote from: Andre Chass on Apr 02, 07:18 PM 2018
Ricky

It's like an undefeated boxer. When he loses for the first time he loses a bit of self confidence and begins to question himself. In the next fight he has more caution and a little fear that the defeat will occur again.
That's how I'm feeling... I'm scared
Andre losing should be EXPECTED. Its how you deal with the loss. Learn to PROFIT from losses.

Im not sure why you feel the need to play a 4th step. What you should study is the average wait between Step 1 wins and Step 2 etc.

For example with PB the way I play it. In nearly 15,000 games. The longest gap between step 1 wins is 10 games. And thats RARE. Thats only happened 3 times in 11 years.

The average is 4 games. Knowing these things is POWERFUL. And gives you great confidence.

Proofreaders2000

Hey Andre  :)

If you don't like the size of the progression

you can skip the first two
bets and bet on the last two legs.

Example: PBB  PBB PBB  PPP(2x optional)

cht

Quote from: Andre Chass on Apr 02, 07:18 PM 2018
Ricky

It's like an undefeated boxer. When he loses for the first time he loses a bit of self confidence and begins to question himself. In the next fight he has more caution and a little fear that the defeat will occur again.
That's how I'm feeling... I'm scared
How to place that $1000/1000/3000/6000 dream bet in Vegas ?

When you have lost $100k, it's easy.   :xd: :xd: :xd:

Come on, it's a super rare event that happens only on rx simulation not real casino play.

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