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Law's Labby Breaker - Will this beat roulette?

Started by thelaw, Jul 08, 09:19 PM 2014

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thelaw

First off, thanks to everyone on all of the Roulette Forums for all of the great theory and strategy info.

The following is a system that I have culled together from John Legend's "Pattern Breaker" methodology and the standard Labby betting progression. It has yet to lose, so I welcome anyone who can shoot it down. Please note that this system is only for use on a live wheel, as I have not tried it on the RNG Systems. As always, jumping from table to table is preferred, but not mandatory for success. This system can be played after only 3 spins (most cases) of charting.

Bankroll : $300-500 ($1/1 unit bet)

Average wins (conservative) : 1 unit/ 3 spins (ex. 12 spins = 4 units won)

Betting Size : $2-$100 (max-betting includes complete bet for two dozens - ex $1/$1 - $50/$50)

The System :

Start by recording the first three spins (or more if you prefer) to make the first line using the results from the Dozens (or Columns).

Ex. Spins : 19-15-31-27-25-17-34-03-03-16-17-04-15-18-07-05-32-29

...so your first line is

223 (first three dozens) - we are now going to bet that the next line is going to be different (but with a bit of a twist that you'll see in a moment)
3      w (betting on other two dozens to win - 1/3 in this instance)
33    w
332  w

...so now the first two lines read

223
332   ...then
3      L    ...so now we will wait to bet again until we have another win (so we are betting for streaks of different results)
31    w (no bet, but first win is a trigger so bet next spin-always following win)
311  w

...continuing

223
332
311   
221  wwL (two wins, loss, and then wait for another win)
221  LLL (three loss, but no bets, so no problem)
1      w (trigger - no bet)
13    w
133  w

So our total win loss line so far looks like this :

223
332  :
311  Lww
221  wwL
221  LLL
133  :

:L:Lww

Betting Progression :

I use a simple three step Labby as follows :

l
l
l

...for every loss you will add 2 units to the Labby like so :

l
ll
ll

...next bet 1 unit (x2 - 1 for each dozen)

results (remove top line from Labby)

ll
ll

...next bet 2 units (x2 - 1 for each dozen)

results (remove top line from Labby)

ll

...and on until you're done-winning 3 units.

Here is what the progression would have looked like played out for each bet:

:L:Lww

l
l
l
-------w
l
l
-------w
l
-------w

start new lines (+ 3 units won)

l
l
l
-------L
l
ll
ll
-------w
ll
ll
-------w
ll
-------w

start new lines (+ 3 units won)

l
l
l
-------L
l
ll
ll
------w
ll
ll
------w
ll

....and so on ...

The power of this system is that it appears to keep the losing streaks to a bare minimum. Due to the long winning streaks, I would suggest any rare betting situation which reaches 50 units (100 units total bet) to be added as lines instead of adding to the existing lines in the event of a loss to keep from reaching table limits. I have not seen a bet reach 50 units, but i'm sure it's possible at some point if you play long enough. Also, I treat the Zero(s) as losses (add to Labby) where they appear, and play through as if they do not exist.

I have studied roulette over the years as a hobby, and own a production/design company that takes up most of my time, but I will try to respond to any questions if you have them.

Happy Hunting!!! :)


                                                                                                                                       theLaw
You sir.......are a monster!!!

GLC

Wow!  Nice first post.  Well thought out and articulated.

"...The power of this system is that it appears to keep the losing streaks to a bare minimum. Due to the long winning streaks,..."

This is a powerful statement.  I definitely agree with it. 

And, I really like your use of the labby.

Thanks,

GLC

I almost forgot, "Welcome to the forum."
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

atlantis

Hi thelaw,

Thanks for your PB idea!  :)

First try resulted in +31 over 96 spins. Hit 2 zeros as well.
Highest Bet=5 on each doz.

w/L registry (without the non-played L's and w's due to rule of wait for w after a L):

wwL:LwwLwLwLwL:wL:LLwL(0)LwLwL(0)::wL:L:wwLLwLwL::LL:::w

Nice!

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

thelaw

Sample Game : (actual spins - live wheel - single Zero)*   

Spins: 180   

Win: +66 units (+1 unit/2.7 spins)

*No zeros in this game, but I used this game because it was a particularly ban run in terms of losses. W/L ratio is usually closer to 3/1*

Bets Won : 75**

Bets Lost : 38

**added lines to 9 bets - all single line (marti) over 3 units - helps to keep any multiple losses low verses when bets are higher

Max Overall Drawdown : -01

Largest Bet : 24x2 (-48 total bet)

Longest Losing Run : 4 Bets (uncommon-usually 3 max most games)

Longest Winning Run : 7 Bets (common up to 12)

Longest Wait for Trigger : 3 + Trigger (4 total)


Dozen   w/L      Total    (underscore =no bet including triggers)
222      (first line charted)
321      wL_      -01
213      :   +04
122      :   +07
221      wL_      +06
333      :      +11
312      L_w      +12
312      L_ _      +10
321      _ _w      +11
332      L_w      +11
131      wL_      +13
321      wwL      +12
332      _ _w      +16
321      L_w      +13
323      L_ _      +02
212      :   +19
122      wwL      +19
221      _L_      +17
123      wL_      +14
323      wL_      +08
111      _ww      +24
331      wwL      +24
221      _wL      +25
132      _ww      +26
222      wwL      +29
221      _ _ _      
121      wL_      +27
113      _ _ w   +30
132      L_w      +28
131      L_ _      +16
222      :   +34
113      :   +37
312      wL_      +36
321      L_w      +34
133      :   +41
233      wL_      +40
331      _L_      +38
332      L_ _      +34
222      wwL      +34
111      _ww      +45
131      L_L      +41
322      _ww      +45
313      L_w      +43
222      :   +50
233      L_w      +51
223      L_L      +47
221      _ _ _
213      L_w      +46
133      wwL      +52
213      _wL      +49
121      _ww      +57
323      :   +60
331      L_w      +59
133      wL_      +57
133      L_ _      +51
332      _L_      +39
313      L_w      +39
212      wL_      +61
332      wwL      +58
121      _ww      +66

Total : +66











You sir.......are a monster!!!

sturrock

Just had a quick go on Smartlive Air Ball Fun money

2 2 3
2 2 1 L L VW
3 1 1 W W L
1 2 1 VW W L
1 2 2 VL VL VW
2 3 1 W W W

It works  ;) Much the same as the "Supa Dupa" by SAS

Chris555p

I think that "Supa Dupa" by SAS is more random due to the fact
that there is no cluster of 12 numbers or 24 nos together on the
table.

The idea of stopping after 1 loss, wait virtual win to restart betting
is very good.

sturrock

So Chris What is the one to play????    :-[  So confused lol  :question:

sturrock

Hi Law,

Welcome to the forum!   If you say losses never go beyond 4 (or what is the longest loosing run with this) usually only 3 would it be safe to use progression 1 3 9 27 ??
Just a thought?
Great system  Thanks.

Chris555p

@Sturrock

I have  been playing the traditional 2 dozens for several years;
Recently I have started playing "Supa Dupa".

I think if we combine the two systems together we have
something great. Random vs Random; Stop after 1 loss;
wait VW to restart betting with preferred progression, whether
foolproof or labby.

thelaw

Quote from: sturrock on Jul 09, 11:26 AM 2014
Hi Law,

Welcome to the forum!   If you say losses never go beyond 4 (or what is the longest loosing run with this) usually only 3 would it be safe to use progression 1 3 9 27 ??
Just a thought?
Great system  Thanks.

Hey Sturrock,

I always assume that there are longer possible loss streaks, so a Marti seems very risky.

Thanks! :)

                                                                                        theLaw
You sir.......are a monster!!!

thelaw

Quote from: Chris555p on Jul 09, 11:34 AM 2014
@Sturrock

I have  been playing the traditional 2 dozens for several years;
Recently I have started playing "Supa Dupa".

I think if we combine the two systems together we have
something great. Random vs Random; Stop after 1 loss;
wait VW to restart betting with preferred progression, whether
foolproof or labby.

Very Effective! - Tested this and it works very well, but wanted to find something with lower Bankroll (Supa=4x bankroll) to make it more accessible to players :)
You sir.......are a monster!!!

sturrock

Just played Real Money on SMARTLIVE Air Ball Just £1 units made £10 in about 20 mins very easily. 3rds progression 1 3 9 27

3 2 1
2 1 1 W W L
3 3 2 VW W W
1 2 1 W W W
1 3 2 L VW W
3 3 1 W L VW
1       W        WINNING GOAL;  10 UNITS UP

The stop and wait after a loss is great!!!

thelaw

Supa Labby Breaker (100 spins)

Bankroll Needed : $1200-1500 (4/$1x2 units needed to cover street bets) - Very Conservative - can be lower

Win: +180 units (+1.8 unit/1 spin)

Bets Won : 48

Bets Lost : 18

Max Overall Drawdown : -04

Largest Bet : 9x2x4 (-72 total bet)

Longest Losing Run : 3 Bets

Longest Winning Run : 7 Bets

Longest Wait for Trigger : 2 + Trigger (3 total)

747      (charting)
144      wL_      -04
477      :      +16
774      :      +28
111      :      +40
177      L_w      +43
444      :      +56
47o7      L_L_      +24
147      wwL      +52
477      _wL      +40
114      _ww      +72
444      wwL      +72
474      _ _ L      +48
711      _ ww      +84
117      wL_      +80
177      L_L      +20
114      _ _w      +56
411      wL_      +88
147      :      +108
771      :      +120
447      :      +132
711      :      +144
411      wL_      +140
11o7      _L_ _      +124
411      wL_      +108
147      :      +160
17o7   L_L_        +140
444      _ww      +172
144      wL_      +168
117      _ _w      +172
4         w           +180

Total : +180

                                                                        theLaw
You sir.......are a monster!!!

SpinASequence

Quote from: sturrock on Jul 09, 12:04 PM 2014
Just played Real Money on SMARTLIVE Air Ball Just £1 units made £10 in about 20 mins very easily. 3rds progression 1 3 9 27

3 2 1
2 1 1 W W L
3 3 2 VW W W
1 2 1 W W W
1 3 2 L VW W
3 3 1 W L VW
1       W        WINNING GOAL;  10 UNITS UP

The stop and wait after a loss is great!!!


But aren't you giving a real win away?

sturrock

Hi SAS,

No I don't think so because you might have 4 or 5 losses before a win? And you are going for a string of wins and cuts out a string of losses. What does anybody else think?
Confused of the Isle of Wight 

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