Should Priyanka write and publish a book on Roulette?

[3Nine]

Falkor, don't feed into this nonsense.

Here's the bottom line - if someone proves the game can be beat by math alone then Steve's 'work' is no longer needed.  So, why wouldn't he bash it all? 

I had asked to remove my account and just logged in to see the request hasn't been completed.  Bummer, eh?

I would love to stay and chat with you guys but I just can't be a part of promoting this guys 'work'. 

Good luck finding the "proof" - it's all there, Falkor.

[Steve]

Steve, have you got the raw log for us to analyse?

Yes but it's not appropriate for me to share logs for any players. I've already explained what the logs contain.

How do you explain all the efforts Priyanka has put into the Random Thoughts topics?

It's not uncommon for people to spend time on approaches that dont work.

Do you suspect she is testing with a biased simulator that had a bug in it causing her to win big; she then followed up on BV and happened to get lucky on that too whilst recording the video?

I dont k now what video you are referring to, but I suspect it was short term play. Anyone can show great results in short term.

Could that be why she came here to explain the principles behind her victories? Or do you suspect something more sinister in terms of cheating and rehearsing her winning BV videos; or could she just be outright delusional but good as a hacker?

There have been many members on forums that dont really have anything of value, but like attention. Maybe he's like that. Maybe he's just really trying to contribute, who knows. I'm just saying the facts as they are.

He didn't exactly hack anything. All thats needed is a program like Wireshark to see data your pc sends and receives, and then send different data from your pc to the server. It would take an average programmer a few minutes to figure out.

You are your own person, but I just suggest dont believe everything, and maintain healthy skepticism and an inquisitive mind. Not questioning and not fully thinking things through is likely to waste your time.

[Steve]

Here's the bottom line - if someone proves the game can be beat by math alone then Steve's 'work' is no longer needed.  So, why wouldn't he bash it all? 

Actually if someone found a method better than what I already had, I'd be using it. If there was a "holy grail", I'd use it myself, and integrate it into secure software to allow others to use it either for fee or "pay as you go". That's exactly what I do with my currently best method.

I would love to stay and chat with you guys but I just can't be a part of promoting this guys 'work'. 

Okay. Good luck with the martingale  I'm against it, so it must work. Yes its best not to promote the only approaches ever to concern casinos. ps, I didnt invent this universe or physics. It was just there. Some people understand it, some dont.

[3Nine]

Actually if someone found a method better than what I already had, I'd be using it. If there was a "holy grail", I'd use it myself, and integrate it into secure software to allow others to use it either for fee or "pay as you go". That's exactly what I do with my currently best method.

Okay. Good luck with the martingale  I'm against it, so it must work. Yes its best not to promote the only approaches ever to concern casinos. ps, I didnt invent this universe or physics. It was just there. Some people understand it, some dont.

You wouldn't use it. You would sell it. There is a difference. 

There's also proof out there about JAA.  Is that your best method? Comical.

Since this is your world (aka forum) we will leave it at that. You will spin it any way you need to for more sign ups and more sales.  That's all it's about, right?

I'm wondering, are you willing to be wrong about what exists and what doesn't? And who cheats and who doesn't? 

I'm out.  There's life beyond this game and seeing you build forum after forum to promote your nonsense pains me.  Priyanka hasn't taken a dime from anyone.  Can you say the same?

[falkor2k15]

3Nine, Steve is just trying to protect his fellow citizens and warn us about potential scams as he sees it - particularly those members who frequent this forum, i.e. on his own turf. Shame Steve can't share the log file as that's what would be needed in a court of law to convict Priyanka. I guess it must be due to the data protection act or some such?

You are your own person, but I just suggest dont believe everything, and maintain healthy skepticism and an inquisitive mind. Not questioning and not fully thinking things through is likely to waste your time.

Well said! 

Good luck finding the "proof" - it's all there, Falkor.

I'm still testing - thanks! I realised from the beginning it could all be a waste of time as per potential red flags duly noted by Steve, but I am happy to proceed as I find it a fascinating subject - and it keeps the brain stimulated (not many things can). I must have tried and failed with scores of systems before I began following Priyanka. It's a big sacrifice - but I find it beneficial all the same. Its not the money - it's the paradoxical nature of the game that keeps me interested.

[falkor2k15]

So... Steve's investigation into Priyanka has finished and his findings are damning to say the least. However, my investigation still continues... she deserves a fair trial. Currently, I am following up on one of her official statements:

"If our selection process does not result in a random sequence but instead on a predictable pattern will these stats and distribution hold good."

This one, alone, deserves a separate trial I think!!! 

[RouletteGhost]

You still refer to him as a she

Lets get passed that hurdle first

Howeber i do understand this is the internet so who the hell knows what happened

Noone could ever know 100 percent

[Steve]

You wouldn't use it. You would sell it. There is a difference.

I have numerous methods to beat roulette. I dont mind "selling" the less effective methods a mere $2500, but its actually "licensing" because not even the players get the algorithms for bet selection. Its in the software. My best method is shown at :.hybridroulettecomputer.com and the options to acquire it including getting it for $0.00 up-front and pay from winnings (See link:://:.roulettephysics.com/computer-service/). I make the most profit from giving it away free. In such arrangements, I sit at home and on my tv watch streamed video of players win inside the casino. Literally, that's what I do. Here:

OPTION 4: $0.00 up-front (access fee), plus "any payment you feel is justified" per 24/hr period of use

With this option, you buy your own equipment (phones etc). The exception is a $200 custom cable you get from me, although you can make it yourself if you prefer. The equipment costs approximately US$1,700 for a three-player team. Then to use the Hybrid, you pay "whatever you want".The catch is we give preferential access to the "highest paying teams": Basically the highest bidders get access to the servers, because we have limited servers and operators who oversee users. So if you only pay $100 when other teams pay us $10,000, we'll of course only work with the higher paying team.

You buy nothing from me except a $200 custom cable, but you can make it yourself if you really want and pay nothing. Basically you buy your own phones and earpieces.

There's also proof out there about JAA.  Is that your best method? Comical.

You dont know anything about it. "JAA" is software. "Cross referencing" is the method to find and validate patterns. The "system" is physics.

In layman's terms, my system (you referred to as "jaa") is like a combination of the known and proven effective methods, rolled into one method. "Cross referencing" is a type of statistical analysis where each set of data is compared to others, to check for consistency. In doing this, we can better rely on short term data to uncover long-term patterns. That's comical?

Since this is your world (aka forum) we will leave it at that. You will spin it any way you need to for more sign ups and more sales.  That's all it's about, right?

Nope. I dont need to stretch any truth. The truth is already available for anyone who cares to do proper research. For the roulette computers, anyone can test them free. As for jaa, all you'll find is deceptive trash about me, not the "system" itself. Let's not get into all that again. The truth about all my methods is easy to find.

I'm wondering, are you willing to be wrong about what exists and what doesn't? And who cheats and who doesn't? 

Absolutely. You dont know me that well. I'm comfortable with who I am, and when I'm wrong, I have no problem admitting it. Too bad about the little sting when your pride gets hurt. Its good for you. Because the ability to admit mistakes clears the path to learning. If you hold tight to pride and trying to never be wrong, you harm yourself. Maybe you missed the recent thread with my apology to Kav (and Angelo, ok yes you too).

I'm out.  There's life beyond this game and seeing you build forum after forum to promote your nonsense pains me.

Sorry to cause you pain.

Priyanka hasn't taken a dime from anyone. Can you say the same?

Nope, you got me there. I openly and transparently trade values. It's called "business" and I trade with ethics and honesty. And I'm not attacking Priyanka. All I'm doing is explaining the facts about his results on the game. Why? Like Falkor said, to protect members. Do you remember Charles Edward Hampshire? When I warned inexperienced members about him, they attacked me and accused me of trying to censor the holy grail, because you know, it would be bad for my business...

Maybe Priyanka has something to offer, maybe not. I've explained the facts about what I know, and anyone can make up their own mind. I know from 20 years of experience, and basic knowledge of math and statistics, that critical claims he has made are incorrect. and I've explained about the game cheating too. I dont need to explain it all again.

[Steve]

Here is the kind of thing I see from my home tv:

link:s://:.youtube.com/v/bMqSGg7_XQk?rel=0

You have no idea about what I do. You assume based on preconceived ideas, and what idiots with ulterior motives said about me.

[falkor2k15]

You still refer to him as a she

Lets get passed that hurdle first

Howeber i do understand this is the internet so who the hell knows what happened

Noone could ever know 100 percent

My girlfriend is jealous of Priyanka - says I give her too much time and not enough to my girlfriend! She saw Priyanka's avatar and thinks she's beautiful! I keep trying to tell her that Priyanka is a 53 year old man, but she doesn't believe me...

[falkor2k15]

The jury currently believes Priyanka is innocent re: cheating. Steve has provided evidence, but hasn't yet managed to convince the majority.

As for writing a book, the jury hasn't reached a firm decision yet, so I guess we will have to make do with my "Random Thoughts A concise reference" source book.

[Steve]

Steve has provided evidence, but hasn't yet managed to convince the majority.

Not to be abrasive, but thats because of one or more of these:

* They dont understand the evidence
* They havent seen the evidence or even read what I published
* They arent thinking much about it
* They are gullible

Really any reasonable mind that took the time to research, read and understand, would conclude his results were likely due to cheating. And if they saw it all as admin, they'd know.

The forum has been through the same thing with a new master and hg many, many times. Theres no doubt he cheated. And theres no doubt he made incorrect statements about roulette. What I dont know is if his master system has any value. I suspect not, or even if it exists. But I dont think any of us will ever know. Again I just hope people have healthy skepticism with an inquisitive mind, and not be so gullible.

And be prepared to having wasted a lot of time. Whether or not thats ok depends on everyones intentions with roulette. ie have fun or serious business. Really its hard to find middle ground with roulette. The methods that work need a lot more dedication than typical systems and its not suitable for tourists.

And as I keep saying, if I wanted a busier forum and more 'sales', Id just shut up and let a flurry of  new posts occur. But instead I put the truth first. And I get attacked for that, like I did with ceh, hohn legend, alabalah etc. Really theres no point to promoting AP to a system player. Im not trying to. Im not trying to convert anyone for the sake of money. Its purely to help people, but you are free to think otherwise.

[falkor2k15]

Steve must feel like nobody has taken his evidence seriously or given it much thought or the attention it deserves, hence the reason most people believe Priyanka is genuine. According to Steve that's a fatal mistake that could cost us all valuable free time and only goes to show how gullible people can be.

Sifu Priyanka's teachings have taken me the best part of 6 months to decipher - even I suspected her at first - but they are now clearer than ever:
1. Introduce a Non-Random component into our game: PHP (applied as cycles on a particular carpet position) - preferably paired up with VdW (another Non-Random component)
2. Identify the statistical constants being applied to the Non-Random patterns above: cycle length, order, defining element. Each element contains a constant ratio/odds associated with it - by default gives no advantage/edge.
3. Create a biased game by trying to tilt the above event ratios/constants in our favour to give greater probability/predictability under certain circumstances. This may involve tracking for repeats of cycle lengths or playing the previous 2 defining elements or tracking other carpet positions in parallel. The bias then increases and the event will no longer break even in the long run and the combinations (cycle lengths) can even reduce in number. I'm thinking that parallel games may also forge new events based on the "overlapping parts" from the original cycle events.
4. Stitch bets over multi-spin cycle events for better payout odds. The biased ratios (above) coupled with the payouts can then be calculated to gain profit/edge in the long run - seen through the mist of uneven distributions - albeit more predictable than the variance that comes from purely random play (see below).
5. Kill off Dispersion (another concept that Priyanka hasn't yet covered).

I'm at stages 3 and 4 right now - but it's looking very promising as a potential master system of great value indeed - possibly a HG? CL2 and CL3 for Quads are both under 50% - but VdW could potentially bring them both up to 50% by the simultaneous killing of dispersion (through virtual wins/losses) to maximise wins and reduce losses (see Manrique's "the Perfect Loser"), which in turn will filter out the losing CL1s and CL4s; so VdW could go hand-in-hand with Dispersion killing for handling 2 variables, increasing their bias, and at the same time rejecting the other 2.

[The General]

Falkor/Pri,

You're contributing to the infection of ignorance. 

[Still]

Theres no doubt he cheated.

I have seen a debate about how extensive was Priyanka's access to some log system. 

Assuming total access to the log system, that is not proof of cheating unless the statistics for the leaderboard come directly, and only from the log. 

I doubt that is the case at all.

So there is no proof of cheating yet.