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SCOOBY"S "KNOCKOUT" SYSTEM

Started by ScoobyDoo, Jun 28, 11:12 AM 2012

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TwoCatSam

MM

I will start one when my coffee brews.  I'm still have asleep but made 56u with "The Knockout" this morning.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

mattymattz

Sounds good Sam - I will also be in chat incase that's easier.

MM

TwoCatSam

If I go to chat, my wife will beat hell out of me.

Must log off............
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Robeenhuut

Quote from: ScoobyDoo on Jun 30, 01:03 AM 2012
Hi Samster,


Thanks for posting that cool video. The tracker showed nicely, how the grid is suppose to look. You have altered the betting method but I will admit that 1-1,3-3,9-9,27-27 is a pretty crappy way to have to play double-dozens.


Betting after 3 losses is also an inventive twist. Kepp up the good work mi amigo.

So except Lanky Divisor or 1,3,9,27  any other ideas about d best prog here?
Matt

TwoCatSam

When betting double dozens/columns, you can go up 2 on a loss and down 1 on a win.  You must have equal w/l to get out.  Hopefully you get his llllll::

You get the idea...

Not as good a Divisor, though.

By the way, I once invented the World's Best Progression, but I can't find it.  Named it some silly something.  (Oops!  Did I bloviate?)

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

dennisbelle

TCS,
   Thank you for posting the video.  Just to be clear when you bet after 3 losses you double your bet after each additional loss (martingale) and reduce your bet by one unit after each win, is that correct? So far in my hand testing I have not had more than 3 losses in a row but I have only tested 3 sessions of 20 spins each.

TwoCatSam

When I see ::L  I find the other of the two lines with two w's

::wlww.......like that.  Then I switch to this line using the divisor.

When I see LLL.....I bet 2 6 18 in the manner I described in the video.  Two units one a dozen; one unit on each of the two lines in the other dozen.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Robeenhuut

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jun 30, 12:00 PM 2012
When betting double dozens/columns, you can go up 2 on a loss and down 1 on a win.  You must have equal w/l to get out.  Hopefully you get his llllll::

You get the idea...

Not as good a Divisor, though.

By the way, I once invented the World's Best Progression, but I can't find it.  Named it some silly something.  (Oops!  Did I bloviate?)

Sam

Yeah Sam.  2up n 1down can be used here with a prayer 4 evenly spread out loses if any :D
Matt

TwoCatSam

If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

atlantis

Hey.. Thanks a million for those vids, Sam
Nicely explained.
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

SamNL


TwoCatSam

I must caution anyone using the divisor..........

You can get the run from hell.  I just did.  Set a loss limit and back off for a while when you hit it.

The RNG can behave just like a wheel.

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

mattymattz

Quote from: mattymattz on Jun 29, 07:51 PM 2012

I'm currently testing 20,000 spins that I got from the VLS website.  I'll try and post in increments as I still have to do some of the entering manually... luckily not much.

Here is the first 600 spins.  Bigger drawndown but still not that scary, atleast for me. 

Largest bet so far was 157 per dozen.  Not great, but still managable.  Will be interesting how much worse it will get.
 

So I've redone this same 600 spin test but used the improved spreadsheet to do the calculations.  If my new spreadsheet is right and the old one is wrong (which both Sam and I think is) then the largest placed bet drops from 157 per dozen to 42 which is a HUGE improvement.  The profit was lower of course, dropping from 200 ish to 126. 

I need to run the next set and see how much improved it does there.

MM

Master_of_pockets

Just an idea

Do u think that we could adapt this system on the Lines?
If yes...then what would be the groups?
Never agrue with silly people.They will drag you down to their own level and then beat you with experience.***Mark Twain***

GLC

Sammy,  I notice that the way you are playing, you are just betting the last 2 dozens to hit.  Also, 3 L's happen on one of the other dozens anytime a dozen hits 3 times in a row.  The tracker is a wasted step.  Throw it away for this way of playing.  Just look at the last few outcomes.  This is a good example of me working on a really exotic bet progression only to find out it was just a weird way of playing +1 after 2 losses -1 after 2 wins.
Cheers my friend.

I think Scooby's way to play it was a little diferent.  At one point he said to bet the set that had hit the most, not just the last 2 wins.  I could be wrong about that.  Scooby, help us out here.

MOP,  Of course you can play this on the Lines.  You get 6 sets of 5 lines each.  Each bet is 5 times the unit size.  You can play the divisor method with it also.  Just 5 times instead of 2 times.

Also, this is just follow-the-last.  For the Lines you bet everything except the oldest line to hit.
Even chances?   Yes!
Streets?  Yes!
Splits?  Yes!
Single Numbers?  Yes!
Corners? :question:   That's a tough nut to crack.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

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