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One Dozen Plz ?

Started by Twisteruk, Sep 17, 01:42 PM 2012

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Turner

Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 17, 03:34 PM 2012
No zero's in the above example

Zero's happen. You could put a minimum chip on Zero if you wanted too. I choose to repeat bet and carry on
It is nice when you see a Zero pop up and your not betting, for example youve had your win on the 1st bet and then a Zero hits on the 2nd or 3rd spin
Twister...Im assuming correctly that you take only 1 win from the 3 and spin until the start of the next 3
LWx
Wxx
Wxx

Twisteruk

Quote from: turnerfeck on Sep 17, 04:08 PM 2012
Twister...I'm assuming correctly that you take only 1 win from the 3 and spin until the start of the next 3
LWx
Wxx
Wxx
I choose to take just one win and then continue to write down results to give the line to then bet on, you could play for 2 wins if you wanted too

Example

123
222 Had 2 bets won on 2nd bet continue to track
Its Set In Stone =)

TwoCatSam

I have had a wee bit of rum, so maybe I missed this logic.

Why fifteen numbers at the start?  Why not just three?

Sam
If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go where dogs go.  ...Will Rogers

Robeenhuut

Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 17, 02:52 PM 2012
Thank you  :thumbsup:

No you don't and I wondered who would be the 1st to ask that. The reason I choose to do so is it gives me a feel for what's going on. If I join and the previous 5 lines are all winners I know I'm due a loser, based on past experience. Like I say that's just me. But no you can go straight out to bat from the previous 3 spins.

It reminds me bit of Code 4 Reverse Attack by JL. It looked for matches in dozens in every 4th row of 4 dozens and columns after 2 losses. As any single dozen betting it will go often enough more than 8 steps and incorporating any triggers does not make any difference. Any bet selection for dozens here is as good. If you lucky and win few units get out. ;D
Matt

Twisteruk

Quote from: TwoCatSam on Sep 17, 10:20 PM 2012
I have had a wee bit of rum, so maybe I missed this logic.

Why fifteen numbers at the start?  Why not just three?

Sam
No worries Sam
As I said its so you can get a feel for whats goin on. If you join the game and the last 5 lines have won then, due to experience, you know ure due a loser. Thats just me though. You can, as you said, go out to bat bat from the 4th spin  :thumbsup:
Its Set In Stone =)

Twisteruk

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Sep 18, 12:44 AM 2012
It reminds me bit of Code 4 Reverse Attack by JL. It looked for matches in dozens in every 4th row of 4 dozens and columns after 2 losses. As any single dozen betting it will go often enough more than 8 steps and incorporating any triggers does not make any difference. Any bet selection for dozens here is as good. If you lucky and win few units get out. ;D
I disagree.
I agree with Bayes that some bet selections are better than others
I know if I just randomly chose a dozen to bet on or used my Method above the Method above would perform better
Its Set In Stone =)

ego

Quote from: Twisteruk on Sep 18, 04:22 AM 2012
I disagree.
I agree with Bayes that some bet selections are better than others
I know if I just randomly chose a dozen to bet on or used my Method above the Method above would perform better

Why don't you compare and test if that is the case.

You follow the first dozen that hit for six attempts.
When you lose you six attempts you follow the last hit dozen up to six attempts - on a win at this secound stage you reset the progression and start all over again.

Progression 1 1 1 1 2 2 3 4 6 8 up to 12 steps.

Now you can see if your bet selection is better then playing random against random.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Ralph

I use bet selections, but I am not sure it makes it better, I am sure it will not make it worse.
In such a scenario, I think it is right to use them.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

ego

Quote from: Ralph on Sep 18, 04:50 AM 2012
I use bet selections, but I am not sure it makes it better, I am sure it will not make it worse.
In such a scenario, I think it is right to use them.

Well the game is cruel as the wheel has 37 degree of freedom and nothing is due to happen.
The only bet selections i find being slight better then regular patterns is does who is based upon math and probability and where you can define what is a complete cycle with perfect balance or imbalance.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Ralph

it is not completely correct to say you bet random, if you deny you use a bet selection.
The human brain can't think random, it will bet pattern.

Ask anybody to random write down R B or numbers, you will not see a random pattern, rather a balanced. Seldom 35,35,35,35,12,6,12. 0r RRRRRBRRRRR

A bet selection, where the outcome dictates the selection, is most of the time more like random.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

Roughy

Am I being really thick here and not getting it at all!? I thought we were playing for one win per line i.e. one doz to be the same as the one marked down above? So shouldn't the spins below be as I have marked in red? So wouldn't this be 5 lines in a row with no win? Apologies if I'm being a numpty! That's another word for a silly person for our friends who don't have english as a first language!  :)

Cheers
Roughy


Quote from: dino246 on Sep 17, 03:49 PM 2012
What about a twist on your concept !!

112
122 win 1st bet 1/2d
131 win 1st bet 1/2d
121 win 1st bet 1/3d
101 win 1st bet 1/2d
332 no bet due to zero
333 win 1st bet 2/3d
313 no bet as only 3d
313 win 1st bet 1/3d
021 win 3rd bet 1/3d  - no win on this line, 3rd bet does not match
232 no bet due to zero
113 win 3rd bet 2/3d - no win on this line, 3rd bet does not match
322 win 1st bet 1/3d - no win on this line, 1st bet does not match
213 win 1st bet 2/3d - no win on this line, 2nd bet does not match
332 no bet due to 3 different ds
02  win 2nd bet 2/3d - no win on this line, 2nd bet does not match

All the above actual LIVE B+M spins( back-tested )
NO loser as yet !!!!

Just an ongoing thought,
Dino.

Stepkevh

I think Dino bets on the 2 doz's that appeared in the line above

If there is a 0, all same doz or 3 diff doz's he doesnt bet

then it makes sense that he wins his bets ;)
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Roughy

Ah! But this was posted as a one dozen bet. Are you playing this as a double dozen bet Dino? And if so where do you get the second dozen to bet from? Apologies again if I'm just not seeing it  :)

Cheers
Roughy

Stepkevh

like i said and that's how i see it,

if the previous line was
131
he bets doz 1/3

if it was
122
he bets doz 1/2

if it was
123
he bets nothing because of the 3 diff doz's

offcourse he probably has another progression
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

rayhd63

Hi Twister,

I have a a question that I can't find here...

when you got you 5 rows of 3 numbers you start betting the same outcome of line 1.
I f you win on the first , do you stop and wait for the other 2 to fall. Then start with the second line ?
Allways follow the 3 and then the next line....

Is that the way ?!?

Thanks for clearing this up to me.

Ray

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