We were discussing a lot about repeaters and unique sequences without repeats etc. We also established that normally a repeat happens within half of the unique outcomes. Why not convert it into something that is playable in 3 simple steps. The key fact behind this system is "A repeat happens within the first half set of unique outcomes more than the second half". I tend to go with my favourite, the line.
Step 1
The first line that comes in, place 1 unit bet on that line. If a repeat happens at this stage, then the repeat has to be that line.
Win - Restart step 1. Lose - Proceed to step 2.
Step 2
Place 1 unit bet on the first line. If a repeat happens at this stage, then it is 50-50 between first line and second line. However, we are choosing first line. I dont know a very good reason why, so dont ask me why :)
Win - Restart step 1. Lose - Proceed to step 2.
Step 3
Place 1 unit bet each on the second and third line. I am taking the probability of repeat happening between first line and 2nd and 3rd lines. 2nd/3rd has twice the odds of repeating as compared to the first. So we go with 2nd and 3rd. Dont ask me why you did not compare 1st/2nd vs 3rd. No, I dont have an answer :) Win or lose with a repeat, go to step 1. Else, repeat Step 3 with last 3 uniques until a repeat happens.
Have loads of fun.
Playing Mortagon's spins from today, it gives -7
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Simple and fun. Thank you.
Hey Pri,
1.Would the results be positive if you played straight instead of the lines?
2.What type of progression would you recommend if you track the same but played on EC?
3.Is there a way to create a game within a game.... Where the result of the first game causes a chain reaction into second game?
Like the tittle
BigMoney, Simple as 1,2,3
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RG this airball.
10th 0x,1spin. what does sheet say max for 11th,0x remember its max. 12th, 0x whats there avg. Info to take to the machine, Simple as 1,2,3
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Sorry Priy love & Hugs
Quote from: Priyanka on May 12, 06:17 AM 2017
Playing Mortagon's spins from today, it gives -7
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/05/12/temp_287252.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/XOH0)
Same spins shown another way:
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2017/05/12/temp_801243.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/XwiU)
I'm assuming the orange highlighted double streets is where you bet
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 12, 09:16 PM 2017
I'm assuming the orange highlighted double streets is where you bet
No, those are just the line cycles highlighted
I mean you can bet
but in this case just highlighted, i believe
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 12, 09:16 PM 2017
I'm assuming the orange highlighted double streets is where you bet
It's highlighted AFTER the spin, so it's just to highlight the repeat in a quad cycle or less.
Combine this with VdW makes it predictive on EC. For lines, MoneyT is working on it I think.
The highlights are repeats - so, the beginning and end of a cycle.
3Nine what I also note here the length of unique lines before a line repeats.
4,4,1,4,3,2,4,1
Interesting how there are loads of 4s
Quote from: Priyanka on May 13, 09:19 AM 2017
3Nine what I also note here the length of unique lines before a line repeats.
4,4,1,4,3,2,4,1
Interesting how there are loads of 4s
Hmm. Well spotted!
Quote from: Priyanka on May 13, 09:19 AM 2017
3Nine what I also note here the length of unique lines before a line repeats.
4,4,1,4,3,2,4,1
Interesting how there are loads of 4s
4 of 6==> 12 of 18==> 24 of 36
Is there a dip in no. of 5s/6s?
some stats...zero is into stats as separate state<meaning ex. 0,1,3,5,6,0 cycle ends>
I've started double street threads about this before
It's very rare to have 6 unique lines in a row
So my idea was to wait for 3 unique lines (doesn't take long, happens fast) and bet them
If you lose now you have 4 unique lines bet those 4
If you lose now you have 5 unique lines bet those 5
99 percent of the time you will win
The problem is the progression
It's like 1 6 30 or something crazy like that
I haven't had the time to tweak it
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 14, 10:27 AM 2017
I've started double street threads about this before
It's very rare to have 6 unique lines in a row
So my idea was to wait for 3 unique lines (doesn't take long, happens fast) and bet them
If you lose now you have 4 unique lines bet those 4
If you lose now you have 5 unique lines bet those 5
99 percent of the time you will win
The problem is the progression
It's like 1 6 30 or something crazy like that
I haven't had the time to tweak it
Maybe a small tweak would be to wait for 4 unique double streets and then jump into the fray. Of course, the waiting time would increase, but that is a small price to pay if it makes your new resultant progression a little bit more tolerable.
Or, you can play it as described in this thread.
Here is another view including Splits and Streets:
can this approach be useful?
:question:
Quote from: praline on May 21, 11:30 AM 2017
can this approach be useful?
:question:
Well, it looks nice!
another observation...
:question: :question:
Quote from: Priyanka on May 12, 06:11 AM 2017
We were discussing a lot about repeaters and unique sequences without repeats etc. We also established that normally a repeat happens within half of the unique outcomes. Why not convert it into something that is playable in 3 simple steps. The key fact behind this system is "A repeat happens within the first half set of unique outcomes more than the second half". I tend to go with my favourite, the line.
Step 1
The first line that comes in, place 1 unit bet on that line. If a repeat happens at this stage, then the repeat has to be that line.
Win - Restart step 1. Lose - Proceed to step 2.
Step 2
Place 1 unit bet on the first line. If a repeat happens at this stage, then it is 50-50 between first line and second line. However, we are choosing first line. I dont know a very good reason why, so dont ask me why :)
Win - Restart step 1. Lose - Proceed to step 2.
Step 3
Place 1 unit bet each on the second and third line. I am taking the probability of repeat happening between first line and 2nd and 3rd lines. 2nd/3rd has twice the odds of repeating as compared to the first. So we go with 2nd and 3rd. Dont ask me why you did not compare 1st/2nd vs 3rd. No, I dont have an answer :) Win or lose with a repeat, go to step 1. Else, repeat Step 3 with last 3 uniques until a repeat happens.
Have loads of fun.
Thanks again for this, Priyanka. Very easy on the mind. :thumbsup:
I'm wondering if there's a way to integrate Dozens here... so many ways to improve the game!
would we expect to hit in less spins if we aim for dozen,since there are 12 numbers
Quote from: Priyanka on May 12, 06:11 AM 2017Else, repeat Step 3 with last 3 uniques until a repeat happens.
Maybe it's better not to continue:
The probabilities for any line repetition in % are:
{{1, 0}, {2, 16.6667 %}, {3, 27.7778 %}, {4, 27.7778 %}, {5, 18.5185 %},
{6, 7.71605 %}, {7, 1.54321 %}}
Alltogether (without zero) a zerosum, so everybody can easily calculate the break-even point.
But not me, because it's beyond midnight. :yawn:
Maybe we can create lines from dozen, by stitching cycles and number of dozens before repeat happen?
Quote from: Priyanka on May 12, 06:17 AM 2017Playing Mortagon's spins from today, it gives -7
Are we sure?
Quote from: 3Nine on May 27, 07:04 AM 2017I'm wondering if there's a way to integrate Dozens here... so many ways to improve the game!
I think there is a way, but it will have max 3 steps.
hi Praline - you have mail!
the funny thing is, that everybody want to be rich but nobody want to add results from 20 bets!!! :xd:
Quote from: praline on Jun 13, 01:36 PM 2017the funny thing is, that everybody want to be rich but nobody want to add results from 20 bets!!! :xd:
After hard work of adding I'm as poor as before. :sad2:
Quote from: praline on May 21, 11:30 AM 2017
can this approach be useful?
:question:
Hi praline,
I tried several times but can't find out:
In your approach: e.g. #21 is line 4 then line 1
Maybe you tell us the idea.