Hey guys, this is possibly one of my safest methods. It's also simple to get started.
Choose 2 EC's first of all and wait until you get them both repeat. I always go for H/L and O/E for some reason.
So wait for 2 in a row. In my case it could be
20, 32
or 13, 9
Both are either the same LOW/ODD, HIGH/EVEN or vice versa.
Now all you got to do is bet for the opposite to appear. So if you get two HIGH/ODDS, start betting for LOW/EVENS.
Now here's the thing. If you win straight away, then great, that's +2. If you lose both straight away, then that's -2 and you re track. Most often, you'll break even - and if you do, then keep betting until +2 or -2.
The only time you change your betting is if the trigger changes, in that you get a fresh repeater. In my tests, the +2's come more regular - voodoo doing it's bit I bet.
anyway, here are a few spins to show you how this works in practise.
19 H/O
7 L/O
20 H/E
21 H/O
0
13 L/O
26 H/E
3 L/O
13 L/O trigger, bet H/E
2 L/E break even, keep betting H/E
6 L/E new trigger as repeated EC's, bet H/O
13 L/O break even, keep betting H/O
27 H/O win +2
21 H/O trigger, bet L/E
10 L/E win +2
25 H/O
3 L/O
22 H/E
32 H/E bet L/O
13 L/O +2
4 L/E
24 H/E
20 H/E bet L/O
18 L/E break even, keep betting L/O
16 L/E new trigger, bet H/O
-- -- --
29 H/O win +2
8
11
ETC. Hope that's clear. On any repeat, switch to that and carry on until a +2 or -2. Sure, you'll run across a few -2's but at least you know it's not going to spiral out of control. Maybe set a -10 as your loss limit or something. This method is very containable so test away friends!
BW
Thanks. I'll try this one live.
Entire session from SW Table 3 12.12.14 revealed 19 WINS and 12 LOSSES.
On this system does 19 wins 12 losses yield profit?
Yes. Every WIN=2 Units; every LOSS=2 Units.
Thanks for testing my friend, I hope you now see its power.
I like it. Nice and simple EC method.
Worked well for me in a quick test.
I am experimenting with stop betting after a -2 result until new qualifier.
In two minds about implementing a +1 progression after a loss.
Thanks,
A.
If thre hitrate is good a progression is safe
I welcome all tweaks, but personally I like the simplicity, I'm glad you like it
Are you flat betting this B.Wizard ?
Thxs
O0
Yes, ddarko, flat betting so far has been the way.
Of course if it is a little dull for people's tastes, you can ramp it up with progressions, but
not for me.
Thanks
Quote from: buffalowizard on Dec 16, 05:30 PM 2014
Yes, ddarko, flat betting so far has been the way.
Of course if it is a little dull for people's tastes, you can ramp it up with progressions, but
not for me.
Thanks
Dull/Grinder = Wins !!!!!!
gl to you
O0
just went through 400 spins
the hit rate is good
safe for a negative progression after a loss
That's right Ghost, you don't see many consecutive -2 losses so a mild progression, even just to get your money back would Be fine
Back from the B&M. Didn't go as expected. Live spins from Spielbank Wiesbaden don't seem to match, as usual. Hit rate wasn't near as previous tests shown. Needs progression unless we change the strategy a bit.
So I did the following to recover ( always flat-betting):
BHO
BHE bet RL
BLE bet RO
RHO WIN nb
BHE nb
RHE bet LO
So, bet against any previous two ECs whatever they were as long as they're in a row, and continuously, regardless W or L, without the wait for specific triggers.
That's of course up to you to change the method mate, but one dodgy trip to the casino shouldn't put you off - gotta take the rough with the smooth
What progression is recommended for betting 2 equal chance bets if he/she decides to increase after a loss?
Quote from: buffalowizard on Dec 17, 05:08 PM 2014
That's of course up to you to change the method mate, but one dodgy trip to the casino shouldn't put you off - gotta take the rough with the smooth
Yeah I know, plus not enough tests were made, I reckon.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Dec 17, 05:10 PM 2014
What progression is recommended for betting 2 equal chance bets if he/she decides to increase after a loss?
Yesterday while strictly playing by the rules, average was LLLW. 1+1, 2+2, 4+4, 8+8?
Yea i havent seen more then 3 consecutive losses
This one seems really good bet especially when combined with a progression as other members have said, will surely give it a go.. :)
Hi Willie,
Maybe use a separate progression for each side of the bet H/L and O/E? (+1/-1)
19 H/O
7 L/O
20 H/E
21 H/O
0
13 L/O
26 H/E
3 L/O
13 L/O trigger, bet H/E @1-1
2 L/E keep betting H/E @ 2-1 +0
6 L/E new trigger as repeated EC's, bet H/O @ 3-1 -1
13 L/O keep betting H/O @ 4-1 -3
27 H/O win +2 reset to 1-1
21 H/O trigger, bet L/E
10 L/E win +4
25 H/O
3 L/O
22 H/E
32 H/E bet L/O @ 1-1
13 L/O +6
4 L/E
24 H/E
20 H/E bet L/O @ 1-1
18 L/E keep betting L/O @ 2-1 +6
16 L/E new trigger, bet H/O @1-1 +7 reset to 1-1
-- -- --
29 H/O win +9
8 L/E
11 L/O
+9
ETC.
A.
Oops! Slight mistake there above - but still comes to profit of +9 ;)
Quote
19 H/O
7 L/O
20 H/E
21 H/O
0
13 L/O
26 H/E
3 L/O
13 L/O trigger, bet H/E @1-1
2 L/E keep betting H/E @ 2-1 +0
6 L/E new trigger as repeated EC's, bet H/O @ 3-1 -1
13 L/O keep betting H/O @ 4-1 -3
27 H/O WIN +2 ahead so reset to 1-1
21 H/O trigger, bet L/E
10 L/E WIN +4 ahead so stay at 1-1
25 H/O
3 L/O
22 H/E
32 H/E bet L/O @ 1-1
13 L/O WIN +6 ahead so stay at 1-1
4 L/E
24 H/E
20 H/E bet L/O @ 1-1
18 L/E keep betting L/O @ 1-2 +6
16 L/E new trigger, bet H/O @1-3 +5
29 H/O WIN +9 ahead so reset to 1-1
8 L/E
11 L/O
+9
A.
Thanks Atlantis.. Overall seems a very solid system now :)
Hi!
My first test of this.
107 bets
28 Wins
26 losses
53 evens
I played by the rules.
Flatbet!!
Nice and easy!
Agesta
Hi agesta,
I won +20pts today :)
On a double loss I simply increased both bets by 1u and used +1/-1 on a win or loss.
However, I agree it is easy to play with flatbet - will take longer but is far safer.
I also think that using the H/L and O/E EC's is the way to go too. The R/B has the imbalance of 10R/O; 8R/E and 10BE; 8B/O whereas the other EC's are split 50-50...
I will try flatbet on the next session.
A.
Thanks for keeping this one alive fellas, as safe as any of mine
When the opportunity presented itself last night, I used this strategy randomly throughout the night. Seems to go alright. You do break even quite often but I hit several first bet winners. Adds a little flavor to my play.
Just so i'm clear, when you break even on the first bet do you stop betting and reset?
T
Hey man,
"Most often, you'll break even - and if you do, then keep betting until +2 or -2. "
Good luck!
BW
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jun 19, 02:43 PM 2015
Hey man,
"Most often, you'll break even - and if you do, then keep betting until +2 or -2. "
So keep riding the initial trigger bet?
T
Yes, until a win , a loss, or a new trigger bet (double EC) Look at the samples in the thread
This is a pretty darn good bet--I tested 100 ,+1-1 on High low , even odd and ended up plus 37 with no sweat or big down turns
Big A gave me an idea. Play H E, H O and L E, L O with a 1-1 flat bet but keep track of R E, R O and B E, B O. Anytime you get R E or B O as a trigger, bet 2-2 on B E or R O whichever is appropriate. This gives you a 10 to 8 chance to win vs a 9 to 9 chance. Early testing looks pretty good. Could this be the sought after way to capitalize on the uneven distribution of Even and Odds with Red and Black? :o :o :o
GLC
Quote from: GLC on Jun 23, 12:09 AM 2015
Big A gave me an idea. Play H E, H O and L E, L O with a 1-1 flat bet but keep track of R E, R O and B E, B O. Anytime you get R E or B O as a trigger, bet 2-2 on B E or R O whichever is appropriate. This gives you a 10 to 8 chance to win vs a 9 to 9 chance. Early testing looks pretty good. Could this be the sought after way to capitalize on the uneven distribution of Even and Odds with Red and Black? :o :o :o
GLC
Hi GLC!
Please show us how you play it with a small session!
Thank`s Agesta
Thanks George - it is interesting idea... :)
I tried a session betting as you described thru RX software attached.
100 spins = +32u !
A.
Whoo! An incredible +84 units profit on next test!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
(real numbers)
Some wonderful back to back double-win runs happened.
Like before if 0 occurred I simply repeated the last bet.
Used GLC rule: Betting 1-1 on last h/l and o/e EC's unless r/o or b/e in which case 2-2 on those instead!
Great idea, George.
Plenty of opportunities to cut and run with £££ profits! :twisted:
A.
Third session...
This time result over 100 spins = -32units. :-\
Bad result -maybe not so unexpected... Of course, I may not be playing it the way GLC intended?
A.
Last session.
100 spins = +8u
Maybe we could incorporate GLC idea of betting r/o and b/e into BW's methodology somehow??
A.
this is a good way of betting --im not clear on GLC version
Atlantis, All I'm suggesting is that if we have a winning system betting BW's basic idea, if we just keep an eye on R and B with E and O and if we see a repeat of RE or BO, then we have 10 chances for a double win instead of 9 chances with every other combination.
You could think of it this way. We can just create a flat bet system within BWs system in which we play BWs sytem until we get two REs or BOs in a row and then we bet for the RO or BE whichever is appropriate. Since there are 8 REs and BOs, and 10 ROs and BEs, we have 10 chances for a double win. Whereas every other trigger it's 9 to 9.
Play just like BW laid it out in original post. But emphasize the 10 to 8 imbalance of RE and BO vs RO and BE.
I'm not trying to change anything in the original system.
Is it a long term winner?? ???
GLC
I just can't think of a reason why if we play HE, HO, LE and LO and have a winning system, then throwing a bet sequence after a double RE or BO gives us what seems to me to be a little edge for a double win. If we break even a few spins and then get another trigger, then we stop playing for the win on BE, RO until we get another RE or BO trigger.
Is my "focus factor" letting me down or am I seeing this right?
One more shot at explaining why I think this should work. This system (that is BW's system) is based on a trigger of a combination of High with Odd or Even and Low with Odd or Even. There are 9 numbers for each combination so a trigger is satisfied when one of the other 9 numbers shows before another trigger happens.
There are only 8 numbers that are Red and Even and 10 numbers that are Red and Odd. With Black, there are 8 numbers that are Black and Odd and 10 numbers that are Black and Even. So, if we get a Red and Even trigger, the trigger is harder to develop because we only have 8 instead of 9 numbers the form this trigger. Since we win when we have a Red and Odd number hit before we get another Red and Even number and we have 10 Red and Odd numbers, we should have just a slight advantage over playing High with Odd or Even against Low wit Odd or Even.
This may be erroneous logic but it seems accurate if the system works using triggers made up of 9 numbers with a winner made by 9 numbers.
the more i test this the more i like it......thanks GLC for the explanation
if any one could post some spins using glc 'idea it would be much appreciated ,,,, I think I get it but to visualize it would help
21, Sorry, I've been off line for a couple of days. I'll post an example later tonight or tomorrow.
GLC
Not sure how or why this works. I did some testing and go some positive results, but did some more and
it is a dud.
Quote from: GLC on Jun 28, 09:08 PM 2015
21, Sorry, I've been off line for a couple of days. I'll post an example later tonight or tomorrow.
GLC
Still busy.
Another interesting EC system this of BW's that perhaps got forgotten or overlooked.
I think some value and merit still - so will re-read it again and see...
A.