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Title: Evens Eclipse
Post by: buffalowizard on Dec 15, 07:26 PM 2014
Hey guys, this is possibly one of my safest methods. It's also simple to get started.
Choose 2 EC's first of all and wait until you get them both repeat. I always go for H/L and O/E for some reason.

So wait for 2 in a row. In my case it could be
20, 32

or 13, 9

Both are either the same LOW/ODD, HIGH/EVEN or vice versa.

Now all you got to do is bet for the opposite to appear. So if you get two HIGH/ODDS, start betting for LOW/EVENS.

Now here's the thing. If you win straight away, then great, that's +2. If you lose both straight away, then that's -2 and you re track. Most often, you'll break even - and if you do, then keep betting until +2 or -2.

The only time you change your betting is if the trigger changes, in that you get a fresh repeater. In my tests, the +2's come more regular - voodoo doing it's bit I bet.

anyway, here are a few spins to show you how this works in practise.       

                19         H/O
       7           L/O
20                    H/E
       21         H/O
   0   
13                    L/O
26                    H/E
       3           L/O
13                    L/O trigger, bet H/E
2                    L/E break even, keep betting H/E
6                    L/E new trigger as repeated EC's, bet H/O
13                    L/O break even, keep betting H/O
       27         H/O win +2
       21         H/O trigger, bet L/E
10                    L/E win +2
       25         H/O
       3           L/O
22                    H/E
       32         H/E bet L/O
13                    L/O +2
4                    L/E
24                    H/E
20                    H/E bet L/O
       18         L/E break even, keep betting L/O
       16         L/E new trigger, bet H/O
--   --   --
29                    H/O win +2
8       
11

ETC. Hope that's clear. On any repeat, switch to that and carry on until a +2 or -2. Sure, you'll run across a few -2's but at least you know it's not going to spiral out of control. Maybe set a -10 as your loss limit or something. This method is very containable so test away friends!

BW
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: psimoes on Dec 16, 09:29 AM 2014
Thanks. I'll try this one live.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: psimoes on Dec 16, 11:22 AM 2014
Entire session from SW Table 3 12.12.14 revealed 19 WINS and 12 LOSSES.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 16, 11:44 AM 2014
On this system does 19 wins 12 losses yield profit?
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: psimoes on Dec 16, 11:58 AM 2014
Yes. Every WIN=2 Units; every LOSS=2 Units.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: buffalowizard on Dec 16, 12:06 PM 2014
Thanks for testing my friend, I hope you now see its power.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: atlantis on Dec 16, 02:22 PM 2014
I like it. Nice and simple EC method.
Worked well for me in a quick test.
I am experimenting with stop betting after a -2 result until new qualifier.
In two minds about implementing a +1 progression after a loss.
Thanks,
A.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 16, 02:36 PM 2014
If thre hitrate is good a progression is safe
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: buffalowizard on Dec 16, 02:51 PM 2014
I welcome all tweaks, but personally I like the simplicity, I'm glad you like it
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: ddarko on Dec 16, 05:21 PM 2014
Are you flat betting this B.Wizard ?

Thxs

O0
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: buffalowizard on Dec 16, 05:30 PM 2014
Yes, ddarko, flat betting so far has been the way.

Of course if it is a little dull for people's tastes, you can ramp it up with progressions, but
not for me.

Thanks
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: ddarko on Dec 16, 05:32 PM 2014
Quote from: buffalowizard on Dec 16, 05:30 PM 2014
Yes, ddarko, flat betting so far has been the way.

Of course if it is a little dull for people's tastes, you can ramp it up with progressions, but
not for me.

Thanks

Dull/Grinder = Wins !!!!!!

gl to you

O0
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 16, 07:46 PM 2014
just went through 400 spins

the hit rate is good

safe for a negative progression after a loss
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: buffalowizard on Dec 17, 03:45 PM 2014
That's right Ghost, you don't see many consecutive -2 losses so a mild progression, even just to get your money back would Be fine
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: psimoes on Dec 17, 04:01 PM 2014
Back from the B&M. Didn't go as expected. Live spins from Spielbank Wiesbaden don't seem to match, as usual. Hit rate wasn't near as previous tests shown. Needs progression unless we change the strategy a bit.
So I did the following to recover ( always flat-betting):

BHO
BHE bet RL
BLE  bet RO
RHO WIN nb
BHE  nb
RHE  bet LO

So, bet against any previous two ECs whatever they were as long as they're in a row, and continuously, regardless W or L, without the wait for specific triggers.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: buffalowizard on Dec 17, 05:08 PM 2014
That's of course up to you to change the method mate, but one dodgy trip to the casino shouldn't put you off - gotta take the rough with the smooth
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 17, 05:10 PM 2014
What progression is recommended for betting 2 equal chance bets if he/she decides to increase after a loss?
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: psimoes on Dec 17, 05:20 PM 2014
Quote from: buffalowizard on Dec 17, 05:08 PM 2014
That's of course up to you to change the method mate, but one dodgy trip to the casino shouldn't put you off - gotta take the rough with the smooth

Yeah I know, plus not enough tests were made, I reckon.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: psimoes on Dec 18, 02:54 AM 2014
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Dec 17, 05:10 PM 2014
What progression is recommended for betting 2 equal chance bets if he/she decides to increase after a loss?

Yesterday while strictly playing by the rules, average was LLLW. 1+1, 2+2, 4+4, 8+8?
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: RouletteGhost on Dec 18, 06:37 AM 2014
Yea i havent seen more then 3 consecutive losses
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: Willie on Jun 15, 11:28 AM 2015
This one seems really good bet especially when combined with a progression as other members have said, will surely give it a go.. :)
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: atlantis on Jun 15, 03:49 PM 2015
Hi Willie,
Maybe use a separate progression for each side of the bet H/L and O/E? (+1/-1)


19         H/O
7           L/O
20         H/E
21         H/O
0   
13         L/O
26         H/E
3           L/O
13         L/O trigger, bet H/E @1-1
2           L/E keep betting H/E @ 2-1                                         +0
6           L/E new trigger as repeated EC's, bet H/O @ 3-1           -1
13         L/O keep betting H/O @ 4-1                                         -3
27         H/O win                                                                      +2 reset to 1-1
21         H/O trigger, bet L/E
10         L/E win                                                                       +4
25         H/O
3           L/O
22         H/E
32         H/E bet L/O @ 1-1
13         L/O                                                                              +6
4           L/E
24         H/E
20         H/E bet L/O @ 1-1
18         L/E  keep betting L/O @ 2-1                                          +6
16         L/E new trigger, bet H/O @1-1                                       +7 reset to 1-1
--   --   --
29         H/O win                                                                        +9
8           L/E
11         L/O

+9

ETC.

A.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: atlantis on Jun 15, 05:20 PM 2015
Oops! Slight mistake there above - but still comes to profit of +9 ;)

Quote
19         H/O
7           L/O
20         H/E
21         H/O
0   
13         L/O
26         H/E
3           L/O
13         L/O trigger, bet H/E @1-1
2           L/E keep betting H/E @ 2-1                                         +0
6           L/E new trigger as repeated EC's, bet H/O @ 3-1           -1
13         L/O keep betting H/O @ 4-1                                         -3
27         H/O WIN                                                                      +2 ahead so reset to 1-1
21         H/O trigger, bet L/E
10         L/E WIN                                                                       +4 ahead so stay at 1-1
25         H/O
3           L/O
22         H/E
32         H/E bet L/O @ 1-1
13         L/O WIN                                                                       +6 ahead so stay at 1-1
4           L/E
24         H/E
20         H/E bet L/O @ 1-1
18         L/E  keep betting L/O @ 1-2                                          +6
16         L/E new trigger, bet H/O @1-3                                       +5
29         H/O WIN                                                                   +9  ahead so reset to 1-1
8           L/E
11         L/O

+9

A.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: Willie on Jun 15, 05:46 PM 2015
Thanks Atlantis.. Overall seems a very solid system now :)
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: agesta on Jun 16, 10:59 AM 2015
Hi!
My first test of this.
107 bets
28 Wins
26 losses
53 evens
I played by the rules.
Flatbet!!
Nice and easy!
Agesta
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: atlantis on Jun 16, 11:42 AM 2015
Hi agesta,
I won +20pts today :)
On a double loss I simply increased both bets by 1u and used +1/-1 on a win or loss.

However, I agree it is easy to play with flatbet  - will take longer but is far safer.

I also think that using the H/L and O/E EC's is the way to go too. The R/B has the imbalance of 10R/O; 8R/E and 10BE; 8B/O whereas the other EC's are split 50-50...
I will try flatbet on the next session.

A.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: buffalowizard on Jun 16, 12:28 PM 2015
Thanks for keeping this one alive fellas, as safe as any of mine
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: come_on_melb_ole on Jun 19, 01:57 PM 2015
When the opportunity presented itself last night, I used this strategy randomly throughout the night. Seems to go alright. You do break even quite often but I hit several first bet winners. Adds a little flavor to my play.

Just so i'm clear, when you break even on the first bet do you stop betting and reset?

T
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: buffalowizard on Jun 19, 02:43 PM 2015
Hey man,

"Most often, you'll break even - and if you do, then keep betting until +2 or -2. "


Good luck!

BW
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: come_on_melb_ole on Jun 19, 05:28 PM 2015
Quote from: buffalowizard on Jun 19, 02:43 PM 2015
Hey man,

"Most often, you'll break even - and if you do, then keep betting until +2 or -2. "


So keep riding the initial trigger bet?

T
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: buffalowizard on Jun 20, 06:44 AM 2015
Yes, until  a win , a loss, or a new trigger bet (double EC)   Look at the samples in the thread
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: Tomla021 on Jun 22, 11:18 PM 2015
This is a pretty darn good bet--I tested  100 ,+1-1  on High low , even odd and ended up plus 37 with no sweat or big down turns
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: GLC on Jun 23, 12:09 AM 2015
Big A gave me an idea.  Play H E, H O and L E, L O with a 1-1 flat bet but keep track of R E, R O and  B E, B O.  Anytime you get R E or B O as a trigger, bet 2-2 on B E or R O whichever is appropriate.  This gives you a 10 to 8 chance to win vs a 9 to 9 chance.  Early testing looks pretty good.  Could this be the sought after way to capitalize on the uneven distribution of Even and Odds with Red and Black? :o :o :o

GLC
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: agesta on Jun 23, 05:41 AM 2015
Quote from: GLC on Jun 23, 12:09 AM 2015
Big A gave me an idea.  Play H E, H O and L E, L O with a 1-1 flat bet but keep track of R E, R O and  B E, B O.  Anytime you get R E or B O as a trigger, bet 2-2 on B E or R O whichever is appropriate.  This gives you a 10 to 8 chance to win vs a 9 to 9 chance.  Early testing looks pretty good.  Could this be the sought after way to capitalize on the uneven distribution of Even and Odds with Red and Black? :o :o :o

GLC
Hi GLC!
Please show  us how you play it with a small session!
Thank`s Agesta
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: atlantis on Jun 23, 09:08 AM 2015
Thanks George - it is interesting idea... :)

I tried a session betting as you described thru RX software attached.

100 spins = +32u !

A.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: atlantis on Jun 23, 09:39 AM 2015
Whoo! An incredible +84 units profit on next test!!!   :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
(real numbers)
 
Some wonderful back to back double-win runs happened.

Like before if 0 occurred I simply repeated the last bet.

Used GLC rule: Betting 1-1 on last h/l and o/e EC's unless r/o or b/e in which case 2-2 on those instead!
Great idea, George.
Plenty of opportunities to cut and run with £££ profits!  :twisted:

A.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: atlantis on Jun 23, 10:09 AM 2015
Third session...

This time result over 100 spins =  -32units.   :-\

Bad result -maybe not so unexpected... Of course, I may not be playing it the way GLC intended?

A.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: atlantis on Jun 23, 11:25 AM 2015
Last session.
100 spins = +8u

Maybe we could incorporate GLC idea of betting r/o and b/e into BW's methodology somehow??

A.

Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: Tomla021 on Jun 23, 11:38 AM 2015
this is a good way of betting --im not clear on GLC version
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: GLC on Jun 23, 11:34 PM 2015
Atlantis,  All I'm suggesting is that if we have a winning system betting BW's basic idea, if we just keep an eye on R and B with E and O and if we see a repeat of RE or BO, then we have 10 chances for a double win instead of 9 chances with every other combination.

You could think of it this way.  We can just create a flat bet system within BWs system in which we play BWs sytem until we get two REs or BOs in a row and then we bet for the RO or BE whichever is appropriate.  Since there are 8 REs and BOs, and 10 ROs and BEs, we have 10 chances for a double win.  Whereas every other trigger it's 9 to 9.

Play just like BW laid it out in original post.  But emphasize the 10 to 8 imbalance of RE and BO vs RO and BE.

I'm not trying to change anything in the original system.

Is it a long term winner?? ???

GLC
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: GLC on Jun 23, 11:40 PM 2015
I just can't think of a reason why if we play HE, HO, LE and LO and have a winning system, then throwing a bet sequence after a double RE or BO gives us what seems to me to be a little edge for a double win.  If we break even a few spins and then get another trigger, then we stop playing for the win on BE, RO until we get another RE or BO trigger.

Is my "focus factor" letting me down or am I seeing this right?
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: GLC on Jun 27, 12:01 AM 2015
One more shot at explaining why I think this should work.  This system (that is BW's system) is based on a trigger of a combination of High with Odd or Even and Low with Odd or Even.  There are 9 numbers for each combination so a trigger is satisfied when one of the other 9 numbers shows before another trigger happens.

There are only 8 numbers that are Red and Even and 10 numbers that are Red and Odd.  With Black, there are 8 numbers that are Black and Odd and 10 numbers that are Black and Even.  So, if we get a Red and Even trigger, the trigger is harder to develop because we only have 8 instead of 9 numbers the form this trigger.  Since we win when we have a Red and Odd number hit before we get another Red and Even number and we have 10 Red and Odd numbers, we should have just a slight advantage over playing High with Odd or Even against Low wit Odd or Even.

This may be erroneous logic but it seems accurate if the system works using triggers made up of 9 numbers with a winner made by 9 numbers. 
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: Tomla021 on Jun 27, 03:40 PM 2015
the more i test this the more i like it......thanks GLC for the explanation
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: Tomla021 on Jun 28, 08:03 PM 2015
if any one could post some spins using glc 'idea it would be much appreciated ,,,, I think I get it but to visualize it would help
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: GLC on Jun 28, 09:08 PM 2015
21,  Sorry, I've been off line for a couple of days.  I'll post an example later tonight or tomorrow.

GLC
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: mogul397 on Jun 30, 08:07 AM 2015
Not sure how or why this works. I did some testing and go some positive results, but did some more and
it is a dud.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: GLC on Jun 30, 09:23 PM 2015
Quote from: GLC on Jun 28, 09:08 PM 2015
21,  Sorry, I've been off line for a couple of days.  I'll post an example later tonight or tomorrow.

GLC

Still busy.
Title: Re: Evens Eclipse
Post by: atlantis on Aug 28, 01:40 PM 2015
Another interesting EC system this of BW's that perhaps got forgotten or overlooked.
I think some value and merit still - so will re-read it again and see...

A.