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IT BEATS ME WHY THIS THING WINS SO DOMINANT-----do you know ????

Started by F_LAT_INO, Aug 28, 04:41 AM 2012

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F_LAT_INO

Quote from: rayhd63 on Aug 29, 12:40 PM 2012
Flat,

do you make progression on those bettings?!? Or, just flat bets...

Ray  8)


---Presently only testing flat bet....btw lost another session...2 of 16 tested...but this time 19 un..????


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bossdarling

Sam,

I haven't exercise any progressions, waiting for Nick's v04 as Ray pointed  :twisted:

Cheers,
-bd

Nickmsi

Hi Ray and all . . .

I think the problem that needs clarification is the Unique Numbers. 

To start the betting, the first bet, is tracking for 5 "consecutive" Unique Finales.  This part seems to be working.

The problem is in the second and subsequent bets.  I have continued to use the last 5 "consecutive" Unique Finales as the criteria for a bet, so, you will continue to get bets as long as the last 5 numbers are "consecutive" Unique Finales.

When you get a repeat (a Win), it then tracks for another set of 5 "consecutive" Unique Finales.

I think what Ivica is doing is not using "consecutive" Unique Finales for subsequent bets but non-consecutive Uniques.  He must be looking at previous spins to get 5 out the last 6 spins to be Unique, or 5 out of last 7, or 5 out of last 8, etc.

Can you clarify this?  If so, I can look at v4.0, that is, if I can figure out how to code this.

Sorry for all the problems, but this is normal when dealing with something new, you always have different interpretations, rules, language problems, etc.

But I am here to help . .  .

Nick
Don't give up . . . . .Don't ever give up.

Stepkevh

Nick,

You got it completely now

"I think what Ivica is doing is not using "consecutive" Unique Finales for subsequent bets but non-consecutive Uniques.  He must be looking at previous spins to get 5 out the last 6 spins to be Unique, or 5 out of last 7, or 5 out of last 8, etc."

this is the way it needs to be done

Stef
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

F_LAT_INO

Guys am giving up on this as lost 3th. session..........


But on the same basis have discover much stronger bet.....
Hope the excel be finished before Real Madrid-Barcelona soccer tonight.
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Still

Quote from: Stepkevh on Aug 29, 01:59 PM 2012
Nick,

You got it completely now

"I think what Ivica is doing is not using "consecutive" Unique Finales for subsequent bets but non-consecutive Uniques.  He must be looking at previous spins to get 5 out the last 6 spins to be Unique, or 5 out of last 7, or 5 out of last 8, etc."

this is the way it needs to be done

Stef

As i understand it, it's the last five unique in however many spins.  Would not matter if it was 6, 7 or 8.  Always crossing off the oldest unique when a new one appears.  Continuous betting.  Going to win, or going to lose 17-20 units per bet.  Flat betting until it is determined what kind of progression might work.  It's a lot to ask from Excel formulas.  Might need a VBA macro. 

Nickmsi

Thanks guys for clarifying this . . .

Hey Ivica, are you giving up totally on this system?  Or just for the day to watch football?

"Guys am giving up on this as lost 3th. session.........."


Nick
Don't give up . . . . .Don't ever give up.

Stepkevh

i changed the excel so that it rebets the same 5 finales after a win,
the file places way more bets then before,

but to let it check further if a finale repeats...
i really don't have a clue how to do that :question:

with a decent 8 step prog, this thing is a winner
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Stepkevh

the only progression that i use now for my pennie bets  :xd: is

1 2 5 11 25 56 126 284

i added the progr in the file and pressed a lot of F9's and never saw it loose, always +300 till +900 units.
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: Nickmsi on Aug 29, 02:19 PM 2012
Thanks guys for clarifying this . . .

Hey Ivica, are you giving up totally on this system?  Or just for the day to watch football?

"Guys am giving up on this as lost 3th. session.........."


Nick


The new one much better and very exciting......but only for those with lot of bullets/dhough/
think it can hardly sink.
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Twisteruk

Quote from: Stepkevh on Aug 29, 02:30 PM 2012
the only progression that i use now for my pennie bets  :xd: is

1 2 5 11 25 56 126 284

i added the progr in the file and pressed a lot of F9's and never saw it lose, always +300 till +900 units.
Covering how many numbers ?
Its Set In Stone =)

Nickmsi

Thanks Ivica . .  .

I will wait for the new one and be ready to code it for all . . . hopefully with less bugs this time.

Nick
Don't give up . . . . .Don't ever give up.

F_LAT_INO

Here how it should be played to win 150 chips


look attach.
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Stepkevh

Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Nickmsi

Hello . . .

Attached both Manual and RNG v4.0 for the New Version of Flat's Finales.  This includes the step progression of +1 for a Loss and resets to 1 on all Wins.

The only difference is that this spreadsheet waits for 5 Consecutive Unique Finales before starting to bet.  After that it continuously bets on all non-consecutive Unique Finales. It doesn't make any difference when you start the betting.

For all you testers, I put in an initial Profit Target of 1 and Stop Loss of -100.  Keep pressing F9 and recording the results which appear positive so far.

I am also applying this same principle to Streets and Lines because the initial bets will be much lower and the progressions milder.

Nick




Don't give up . . . . .Don't ever give up.

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