Hey guys
I am sure there are smart guys here in forum, aren’t there. ?
I need your help, well I am testing right now one of the system I have developed and found out something interesting, the system is able to win flat betting within interval of approx 5000 spins, what i did is i have found somewhere live spins (more than 100k spins) I have saved them in a database and stated testing the system against them, I found that for example system won between spin 0 and 5000 then it lost between spin 5000 and 1000 then it won again between spin 10000 and 15000, with win I mean flatbetting profits .
So now the question, as I didn’t gather these spins myself I am not able to discover what is the mystery behind this phenomen, can anyone of you help me ?
If I find out the reasons, I can use them to exploit the system over the long term.
Thx
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 16, 06:48 AM 2018
Hey guys
I am sure there are smart guys here in forum, aren’t there. ?
I need your help, well I am testing right now one of the system I have developed and found out something interesting, the system is able to win flat betting within interval of approx 5000 spins, what i did is i have found somewhere live spins (more than 100k spins) I have saved them in a database and stated testing the system against them, I found that for example system won between spin 0 and 5000 then it lost between spin 5000 and 1000 then it won again between spin 10000 and 15000, with win I mean flatbetting profits .
So now the question, as I didn’t gather these spins myself I am not able to discover what is the mystery behind this phenomen, can anyone of you help me ?
If I find out the reasons, I can use them to exploit the system over the long term.
Thx
1. Is a bet made every spin?
Sounds like normal variance. When testing your system, also test a random variation of the same number of numbers bet (meaning just guess the numbers). I think you'll find the results are the same in both tests.
By the way, I have the data if you need it. Live wheel data.
Quote from: The General on Nov 16, 12:12 PM 2018By the way, I have the data if you need it. Live wheel data.
yes; used it and it gives what other data shows, repeats 1,3,5,7 and 30
General
Yes a bet is made every spin, but I find it very interesting that after first 5000 spins result was positive, then next 5000 spins was negative, then again positive...
Any idea ? What about the dealers?
Can’t it be that my system works under certain circumstances and doesn’t work under different circumstances?
How can I find out what is that hidden cause that makes the system win ?
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This is a real example, you can see how the result is trending..
I don't really understand what you are doing.
I need more details.
General
If you look closely at the results above you will see that the first 15 spins produced a net profit (flatbet) then came a wave of spins that produced a negative profit, then at the end the result was again positive..
If you split the results in 3 intervals, you will notice what i mean, that’s exactly what i call alternated result with fixed width
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By the way, i dont play every spin.... but there should be something hidden that makes the system performance alternates like that... what could it be ?
I still have no idea as to what it is that you're doing. I don't know how many numbers are being bet, or anything else.
Can you explain?
general,
the numbers i bet dont change anything, why don't you answer my question?
suppose you have a system called 'X', this system is able to win within intervals and lose within other intervals.
in addition i can provide you the numbers that showed up in the winning interval and the numbers that shown up in the lost interval.. will it be possible for you to detect the causes of this alternation in result?
maybe the ball's speed in the winning interval is slower than the ones in the lost interval? or the dealers are more consistent ? who knows... does that mean anything to you? can you use this information / interpretation to make yourself an edge in the game?
1. I doubt that you're correctly measuring wheel speed based on a previous conversation.
And I suspect that you're not grasping the physics of vb prediction at all.
I do this for a living, but If you can't explain the details then I won't bother trying to help.
Quote from: The General on Nov 17, 07:18 AM 2018
1. I doubt that you're correctly measuring wheel speed based on a previous conversation.
And I suspect that you're not grasping the physics of vb prediction at all.
I do this for a living, but If you can't explain the details then I won't bother trying to help.
That's funny.. how you know that i am not measuring correctly the speed? is this an assumption or a judgment based on experience?
your reply is full of negativity... :o
hello, if that system is easy and i can remake it for another game of "chances" with low HE(1%) i can test it for very very big samples. (even with playing for real, even for simulations)
if you are interested and can explain your system from not roulette side, but winning percetntage possibilities, write to me!
i made something like you written, but for my its needed very very big sample. and variance can be bitch...
link:s://imgur.com/a/5tBMIm0
in screenshot, system "hunting" streak of X wins in row, what occurs mathematically ~ 1 time in 66 000 bets, so you can see 190k bets is above break even. even with profit.
after that you can be even 10 000 unit streak with 1 unit basebet, and it will be only when deviation from normal will be 8x below luck
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 16, 06:48 AM 2018So now the question, as I didn’t gather these spins myself I am not able to discover what is the mystery behind this phenomen, can anyone of you help me ?
Use a very simple way to detect what is what. You have some prediction - so that is number which you expect will win. And you see real result.
Now simply count the shortest distance between your prediction and result. Do that on all spins and calculate average distance from all.
In most cases - average distance will be around 9 - that is bad for you because that say - that game is random for you and to win is not possible with such predictions.
But if you will get average 7 or less - that is a good signal for you and that means that advantage is in your side...
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Nov 17, 05:56 PM 2018
Use a very simple way to detect what is what. You have some prediction - so that is number which you expect will win. And you see real result.
Now simply count the shortest distance between your prediction and result. Do that on all spins and calculate average distance from all.
In most cases - average distance will be around 9 - that is bad for you because that say - that game is random for you and to win is not possible with such predictions.
But if you will get average 7 or less - that is a good signal for you and that means that advantage is in your side...
Exactly!
To chart... write your prediction, then the actual outcome, and then how many pockets your prediction was from the actual.
Next, plot the difference in pockets on a graph like below. You want the center of the graph... where it represents zero pockets in yardage.... to of course be the best area.
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Now I know you're trying to probably predict a large section of the wheel, so just find the middle or just the far end of the section if you'd like and use that as the prediction so that you can plot the differential.
Good luck.
Quote from: The General on Nov 17, 06:10 PM 2018Next, plot the difference on a graph like below.
More simple simply write the smallest distance no matter to which side.
So chart can be like this
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Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Nov 17, 05:56 PM 2018
Use a very simple way to detect what is what. You have some prediction - so that is number which you expect will win. And you see real result.
Now simply count the shortest distance between your prediction and result. Do that on all spins and calculate average distance from all.
In most cases - average distance will be around 9 - that is bad for you because that say - that game is random for you and to win is not possible with such predictions.
But if you will get average 7 or less - that is a good signal for you and that means that advantage is in your side...
well, that's a very interesting observation.
i will dig into it and tell you what i come out with.
so here is the result:
Total of played/simulated spins= 4069
Dela(difference in pockets Occurencies
between expected and result) (number of times this delta happened)
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3 | 118
7 | 112
17 | 111
-13 | 107
-18 | 105
15 | 104
-8 | 102
16 | 101
-15 | 100
-4 | 99
-9 | 99
-17 | 98
11 | 98
-14 | 96
6 | 96
-12 | 95
0 | 94
-11 | 94
1 | 93
-6 | 93
-10 | 93
-3 | 93
12 | 90
-1 | 90
8 | 88
-16 | 88
10 | 87
9 | 84
5 | 84
13 | 84
-5 | 83
14 | 82
-2 | 82
18 | 82
4 | 77
2 | 75
-7 | 72
if i permanently choose to play all the first 9 delta (total occurencies=960 out of 4069) , i will be playing with a percentage of of hit approx 25.6%.
what do you think?
Your average distance is 9.385 ( you must count all in absolute value ) what show that prediction is absolutely random. For example me not play wheels on which I have distance >7.2 from about 50-90 spins because still are a tendency to move towards a number 9.
The only suggestion is to learn to predict more accurate...
Ignore the chart title. These are standard deviation graphs of how far off your predictions are. If you have another out of sample it would be interesting to see if the best area is also on the opposite side of the predicted. It could be that you just need to rotate your prediction 180 degrees.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/18/source8bdb1.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/TcGjL)
It looks like your prediction should be on the other side of the wheel.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/18/source08451.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/Tc2FS)
But the best section is still only 1 in 35.04. That's awfully weak, and most likely random.
Interesting post Caleb
Quote from: The General on Nov 18, 01:43 PM 2018It looks like your prediction should be on the other side of the wheel.
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Nov 18, 09:57 AM 2018Your average distance is 9.385 (
Average 9.4 the same point to other side....
Quote from: The General on Nov 18, 01:43 PM 2018
Ignore the chart title. These are standard deviation graphs of how far off your predictions are. If you have another out of sample it would be interesting to see if the best area is also on the opposite side of the predicted. It could be that you just need to rotate your prediction 180 degrees.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/18/source8bdb1.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/TcGjL)
It looks like your prediction should be on the other side of the wheel.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/18/source08451.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/Tc2FS)
But the best section is still only 1 in 35.04. That's awfully weak, and most likely random.
Are these graphs for my data ? I don’t understand them, can you please explain them ?
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Nov 18, 02:33 PM 2018
Average 9.4 the same point to other side....
Well that’s well known but you still have an issue, you know that you have two points that meet this criteria (+ and -9)
How are you going to place your bet in this case ?
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 18, 02:37 PM 2018How are you going to place your bet in this case ?
You must bet in oposite side from your prediction, look to second Generals chart.
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Nov 18, 02:41 PM 2018
You must bet in oposite side from your prediction, look to second Generals chart.
But you just said that Average 9.4 Pockets away from prediction, that means if for example my prediction was 31, I need to jump 9 pockets on each side and new prediction will became (3 or 23)
Is that correct ?
Roulettebeater,
I took your data...organized it....converted the negative wheel positions back to positive wheel positions....then created a standard deviation graph of the results. :thumbsup:
Now if you want to dig deeper, then I need to see the actual data prediction stream. Meaning the prediction that was made at each spin and then the result. Here's why...I can measure the drifting trend in your predictions and possibly find the problem.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/18/source78cb9.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/TcTJp)
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 18, 02:46 PM 2018Is that correct ?
No, that calculating average distance only tells you about advantage is it or not. Where to bet show something like Generals chart.
Quote from: The General on Nov 18, 03:18 PM 2018
Roulettebeater,
I took your data...organized it....converted the negative wheel positions back to positive wheel positions....then created a standard deviation graph of the results. :thumbsup:
Now if you want to dig deeper, then I need to see the actual data prediction stream. Meaning the prediction that was made at each spin and then the result. Here's why...I can measure the drifting trend in your predictions and possibly find the problem.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/18/source78cb9.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/TcTJp)
Ok that’s easy
I can do.
What do you think about the result ? Is it promising ?
Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Nov 18, 03:19 PM 2018
No, that calculating average distance only tells you about advantage is it or not. Where to bet show something like Generals chart.
Ok, thx for replying
there is a clear evidence that this system has an advantage. my simulations ran good.
@general why you want to have the predictions stream?
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 19, 04:51 AM 2018there is a clear evidence that this system has an advantage. my simulations ran good.
How good when you predict good less than mathematically?
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 19, 04:51 AM 2018
there is a clear evidence that this system has an advantage. my simulations ran good.
@general why you want to have the predictions stream?
Where you're betting It doesn't look like there's an advantage at all.
I asked about the betting stream because there's information within it that could possibly help you.
Quote from: The General on Nov 19, 11:54 AM 2018
Where you're betting It doesn't look like there's an advantage at all.
I asked about the betting stream because there's information within it that could possibly help you.
But it took your advice and now betting the other side (180 degree) and it‘s winning flatbet.
Your graphs were clear that there is an advantage if bets placed the other side of the wheel .. or I understood something wrong ?
Also I am afraid if I post the entire stream, some guys can reverse engineer it and inform the casino of it.
Or you think that not possible ?
Roulettebeater,
Hitting at 1 in 35.04 over a few thousand spins isn't good. It's very very weak, and most likely random. If you're system had such a small edge then the draw downs could be enormous! You'll need a large out of sample to confirm that.
Nobody is going to steal your system.
Quote from: The General on Nov 20, 11:48 AM 2018
Roulettebeater,
Hitting at 1 in 35.04 over a few thousand spins isn't good. It's very very weak, and most likely random. If you're system had such a small edge then the draw downs could be enormous! You'll need a large out of sample to confirm that.
Nobody is going to steal your system.
Hey general
Ok can you provide your 100k spins file so that i can test the system extensively ?
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 20, 12:32 PM 2018
Hey general
Ok can you provide your 100k spins file so that i can test the system extensively ?
I thought that you were playing some kind of VB method?
How can you possibly measure wheel speed on spins that have already happened in the past?
Quote from: The General on Nov 20, 12:50 PM 2018
I thought that you were playing some kind of VB method?
How can you possibly measure wheel speed on spins that have already happened in the past?
good question , General!
i think i have explained in the past how i do to estimate the speeds ( ball & rotor ).
well actually if you can estimate the number of pockets between the spins then you save the data then do some programming including simulations you can estimate the rotor and ball speeds.
you may now say that is not possible, i can tell you that it is possible and it can give the player a small edge.
thats all for now.
cheers
Quotei think i have explained in the past how i do to estimate the speeds ( ball & rotor ).
well actually if you can estimate the number of pockets between the spins then you save the data then do some programming including simulations you can estimate the rotor and ball speeds.
That's not measuring wheel speed. That's just measuring the differences in pockets. I've graphed hundreds of thousands of spins measuring the differentials in pockets, one frequencies (change in yardage between two spins), two frequencies, three frequencies, etc.
You're wasting your time on that stuff.
Example:
Here's roughly 10k spins. These are standard deviation graphs. None of them are really statistically relevant.
Here's the basic yardage between spins. The basic dealer's signature.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/20/source.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/T8Q5o) smoothed section graph below..(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/20/source12005.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/T8YMp)
Next here's the one frequency...This is the how much the dealer's signature changed from one spin to the next. It's essentially a consistency graph that measures how much the yardage changed between spins one and two.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/20/sourcebc53d.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/T81L0) smoothed...(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/20/source500e1.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/T83oH)
Next here's the two frequency...This is measuring the consistency of yardage between spin one and spin three.
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/20/source9ffb2.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/T8R6d) and smoothed...(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/20/sourcec56d3.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/T8VDU)
None of the graphs were profitable in the example above. None performed better than one in 36.
In order to win, you need to actually measure the 'real' wheel speed. It is NOT possible to create an app that will help people win without a real wheel speed measurement. (Exception...wheel bias, but that's not related to vb.)
Hey General.
have a look - result after running 180 tests (spins are sync):
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/20/sourcec376c.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/TZRra)
ONLY FLATBET
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 20, 04:32 PM 2018
Hey General.
have a look - result after running 180 tests (spins are sync):
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/20/sourcec376c.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/TZRra)
ONLY FLATBET
What am I looking at? Is that supposed to be an equity curve graph???
How many numbers are you betting?
Quote from: The General on Nov 20, 05:10 PM 2018
What am I looking at? Is that supposed to be an equity curve graph???
How many numbers are you betting?
It secret
Quote from: The General on Nov 20, 05:10 PM 2018equity curve graph???
haha...
not its not!
i bet 16 numbers,
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 20, 05:19 PM 2018
haha...
not its not!
i bet 16 numbers,
What is the graph supposed to represent?
Quote from: The General on Nov 20, 05:20 PM 2018
What is the graph supposed to represent?
The graph represents the relation between the number of played spins and the bankroll...
its interesting to see the pattern that getting formed and can be clearly visible in the graph.. a positive development of the bankroll is achieved in the first 90 spins followed by a near symmetrical regression within the next 90 spins then again a positive development.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 20, 05:28 PM 2018
The graph represents the relation between the number of played spins and the bankroll...
its interesting to see the pattern that getting formed and can be clearly visible in the graph.. a positive development of the bankroll is achieved in the first 90 spins followed by a near symmetrical regression within the next 90 spins then again a positive development.
Unfortunately it looks like only variance.
I earmarked this thread to be BS waste of everyone's time from the off.
I said to myself "this will be a 15, 20 page cloak and dagger-fest where nothing gets explained"
4 pages in, I am still on track.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 20, 03:39 AM 2018Also I am afraid if I post the entire stream, some guys can reverse engineer it and inform the casino of it.
This says it all
and so does this rule from Steve
9. No "baiting", which is where you brag about how great your system is, but you don't share anything except perhaps obscure details that lead people along. The forum is a place for open sharing. If you "bait" people, expect to be banned.Caleb, I am astonished you got sucked into this stupid game
RB, please provide details so people can comment properly or its just baiting.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 20, 05:28 PM 2018The graph represents the relation between the number of played spins and the bankroll...
its interesting to see the pattern that getting formed and can be clearly visible in the graph.. a positive development of the bankroll is achieved in the first 90 spins followed by a near symmetrical regression within the next 90 spins then again a positive development.
Roulettebeater,
I hope you're not trying to chase sections of the wheel that you think are 'due' by using an up as you lose progression. There is no equilibrium that you can exploit there.
If you truly want help, then I need better explanations.
Quote from: The General on Nov 20, 05:42 PM 2018If you truly want help, then I need better explanations.
very similar here too only its....
"If you truly want to keep this post unlocked, then I need better explanations
Quote from: Turner on Nov 20, 05:49 PM 2018
very similar here too only its....
"If you truly want to keep this post unlocked, then I need better explanations
there is always a catch Yeah, always a catch..But you have to give your ego a ride!
i will explain, but it will be easier if there are questions and i will be glad to answer.
unfortunately there is no enough audience, you see only z general has participated in the debate!
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 20, 06:13 PM 2018
there is always a catch Yeah, always a catch..But you have to give your ego a ride!
You cant help it can you?
I was done here. Polite warning from a mod but since you decided to type that I decided to type this
Explain more detail or I lock the post on friday according to law 9
Roulettebeater,
Unfortunately It does appear that you're trying to play the secret squirrel game like Turbo did.
No details?
General, I though you weren’t into system play?
Isn’t AP your thing? Why are you interested?
Quote from: Turner on Nov 20, 06:37 PM 2018
You cant help it can you?
I was done here. Polite warning from a mod but since you decided to type that I decided to type this
Explain more detail or I lock the post on friday according to law 9
Turner
I think you are trying to tease me.
I explained the core of the system, I also offered to answer questions.
didnt see any valued question yet
@general, i think you are the only one who might know how my system works but it seems to me as you would have had bad experience with something similar probably because the system wasn’t designed correctly ?
Anyway, let’s be kind, polite to each other and say „Turner rocks! „
-:)
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 21, 04:28 AM 2018I think you are trying to tease me
Let me get this straight
Im a nice guy. If people are straigh and nice, with no agenda, i dont care what they post
i dont know you. All I can do is react to what you type.
We have had many "roads to nowhere" in the past and rookies get sucked in to what (9 times out of 10) ends up a scam and a ban.
We are wary and a little paranoid about the "obvious" way some posts develop. its a well worn pattern, ala John Legend and Warrior(CHS)
These posts have a smell about them
You need to be more transparent about this post or its another agenda ridden dead end.
Quote from: Turner on Nov 21, 05:00 AM 2018
Let me get this straight
Im a nice guy. If people are straigh and nice, with no agenda, i dont care what they post
i dont know you. All I can do is react to what you type.
We have had many "roads to nowhere" in the past and rookies get sucked in to what (9 times out of 10) ends up a scam and a ban.
We are wary and a little paranoid about the "obvious" way some posts develop. its a well worn pattern, ala John Legend and Warrior(CHS)
These posts have a smell about them
You need to be more transparent about this post or its another agenda ridden dead end.
Dear turner
I dont know you too, but your talk about agenda and hidden stuff is totally nonsense..
Someone who has an agenda doesn’t start his thread with a question hoping for help and brainstorming...
This is aggressive version (24 numbers) but has great hit rate
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Graph:
(link:://:.pichost.org/images/2018/11/21/source358ec.png) (link:://:.pichost.org/image/TZhlU)
So guys, anyone feels comfortable playing such way, he can contact me privately and I will sell him the system.
The system needs an IT environment to be installed on the player laptop (such as local DB, java etc ).
I will take care of that and provide the payer a workable system as well as all required software components needed
As you can see on the graph, the player has plenty of opportunities to approfit from playing the system which is a flatbet system and no progression is needed at all.
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 21, 05:59 AM 2018So guys, anyone feels comfortable playing such way, he can contact me privately and I will sell him the system.
You serious?
I suggest you try what I suggested with counting distances - every student will write for you simple semi program in excel which will calculate average distance in all points then will select the best point. Such play will be much safer... believe me :)
Quote from: Roulettebeater on Nov 21, 05:59 AM 2018So guys, anyone feels comfortable playing such way, he can contact me privately and I will sell him the system.
here we go right on cue
this is breaking rule 3
To Sellers: if you post an email address or ask people to contact you privately, perhaps to tell them about your great system, you and your posts will be removed. If you promote here, you must do it openly where you naturally will be questioned by more experienced members. This is because scammers lure victims to private discussionsPost is locked, you are moderated