Grassroots-1,2,3 A dozens idea

[nottophammer]

 mogul397

Your not suggesting foul play

[mogul397]

I honestly feel....which dozens you play and when you play them, makes NO difference.

To be fair, it kind of makes me look inconsistent. I play certain numbers (2-4) for certain reasons.

Is my style of betting the SAME as dozens? Perhaps.

Ken

No.  A dozen is 12.  2-4 is 2-4...

[mogul397]

mogul397

Your not suggesting foul play

Beats me...... disappeared.
Anyway, what I thought was that it doesn't seem like it's too hard to lose by getting
the exact match of 3 with this. That supports the earlier tweak of that 123123 thing.

If you want to go in this direction, I think that picking something like 123 and betting against it
is probably as good or better than a lot of things. Or jumping around.

What I notice is that there are themes in the data.  And some of the themes involve stuff like
repetition vs uniques. So when you wait for the unique you are targeting a time period when
they are coming that way.

Also being restricted to only 3 before catastrophe is bad. It doesn't seem too hard to be
hitting the single dozens, and that is a lot more manageable money management. A progression
and the like. Either way there is no guarantee. But it always seems, like what I mention about
trends, that we seek out the exact type trend that will kill us.

I think that you need to be betting all the time somehow to be making the units, and not just
hit or miss. Because that is just wasting time.

[RouletteGhost]

Beats me...... disappeared.
Anyway, what I thought was that it doesn't seem like it's too hard to lose by getting
the exact match of 3 with this. That supports the earlier tweak of that 123123 thing.

If you want to go in this direction, I think that picking something like 123 and betting against it
is probably as good or better than a lot of things. Or jumping around.

What I notice is that there are themes in the data.  And some of the themes involve stuff like
repetition vs uniques. So when you wait for the unique you are targeting a time period when
they are coming that way.

Also being restricted to only 3 before catastrophe is bad. It doesn't seem too hard to be
hitting the single dozens, and that is a lot more manageable money management. A progression
and the like. Either way there is no guarantee. But it always seems, like what I mention about
trends, that we seek out the exact type trend that will kill us.

I think that you need to be betting all the time somehow to be making the units, and not just
hit or miss. Because that is just wasting time.

As orochi pointed out 123123 is as good a trigger as 233233

Do i agree? No

Why do i not agree? A random entity wont produce consecutive results often

Thats why when it comes to the grassroots tweaks betting against previous 3 when unique only is top of my list

If i see 213 you better belive im betting against that sucker. Will i lose? At times. Maybe one out of 300 spins as the math says

You show me 123 123 123. Find it in zumma

[mogul397]

As orochi pointed out 123123 is as good a trigger as 233233

Do i agree? No

Why do i not agree? A random entity wont produce consecutive results often

Thats why when it comes to the grassroots tweaks betting against previous 3 when unique only is top of my list

If i see 213 you better belive im betting against that sucker. Will i lose? At times. Maybe one out of 300 spins as the math says

You show me 123 123 123. Find it in zumma

Well part of what I was suggesting (maybe it was in the post that got lost) is that it seems like
when you  find a certain tendency (like uniques) that that is what is happening a lot.
So it seems like the chance is greater that the unique will repeat. In the larger pool of
saying that things are clustering or repeating.

I remember, back in my Mr C craps days when I was tracking tables, it seemed like
I could predict the next number. Or pick at roulette. I actually did it a few times.
Can I define what I saw or felt? Not exactly. But it doesn't hurt to be aware of it.

[Celticknits]

RG

I thought you had mentioned it before but I cannot find it so please excuse me for asking but would you please tell me what unit of 0/00 insurance you suggest in each of the 1 3 9 stage3s of betting?

I stumbled ontop this website by accident about a week ago and because of this system suggestion and your inputs I decided this was a great place to be.

I have been using the system discussed on this thread for European and American roulette online and in a brick and mortar casino 5 minutes from my house.
So far I am up about $200.00 on $5 and $10 bets.

I cannot agree more on  your statements about money management and self discipline.
On my $5 bets I quit after winning $20 and on the $10 bets once I have hit $50.

I get a laugh from the other players that ask why I am leaving after only about 1/2 hour of play and I just tell them that I have made 20% on my bankroll and it is time to go. They do not get it and when I ask how they are doing they all said that they were down and trying to recoup their losses.

Patience and discipline are needed whther people believe it or not.

Again, Thank you and all of the other knowledgable people on this forum and please let me know about the 0/00 insurance levels.

[RouletteGhost]

RG

I thought you had mentioned it before but I cannot find it so please excuse me for asking but would you please tell me what unit of 0/00 insurance you suggest in each of the 1 3 9 stage3s of betting?

I stumbled ontop this website by accident about a week ago and because of this system suggestion and your inputs I decided this was a great place to be.

I have been using the system discussed on this thread for European and American roulette online and in a brick and mortar casino 5 minutes from my house.
So far I am up about $200.00 on $5 and $10 bets.

I cannot agree more on  your statements about money management and self discipline.
On my $5 bets I quit after winning $20 and on the $10 bets once I have hit $50.

I get a laugh from the other players that ask why I am leaving after only about 1/2 hour of play and I just tell them that I have made 20% on my bankroll and it is time to go. They do not get it and when I ask how they are doing they all said that they were down and trying to recoup their losses.

Patience and discipline are needed whther people believe it or not.

Again, Thank you and all of the other knowledgable people on this forum and please let me know about the 0/00 insurance levels.

Hey welcome

The only thing i mentioned was a break even chip

Not looking to profit off 0 (for me anyway) just enough so that if 321 happens and i bet against 321 and 301 happens im not up the creek without a paddle

0 is not part of a dozen so it can hurt the method. Besides what harm is done doing it?
321
301
Ouch


Roulette is pretty unbeatable. So grassroots opened my eyes to a new way of thinking: bet against the wheel spitting out fixed patterns

Which tweak are you using? Or is it the original from post 1 courtesy of onetaste?

Glad you have won. Ive played against 123 twice hit and run. Won both times. Rest has been practice sessions

Thanks

[Celticknits]

Hey welcome

The only thing i mentioned was a break even chip

Not looking to profit off 0 (for me anyway) just enough so that if 321 happens and i bet against 321 and 301 happens im not up the creek without a paddle

0 is not part of a dozen so it can hurt the method. Besides what harm is done doing it?
321
301
Ouch


Roulette is pretty unbeatable. So grassroots opened my eyes to a new way of thinking: bet against the wheel spitting out fixed patterns

Which tweak are you using? Or is it the original from post 1 courtesy of onetaste?

Glad you have won. Ive played against 123 twice hit and run. Won both times. Rest has been practice sessions

Thanks

RG

I understand. I too was only looking to break even on the dreaded '0' showing up.

I am not using a tweak per se but do bet after any sequence of 123 showing ie. 123 132 213 231 etc....
I also bet 2 columns at a time during the 123 betting round so you can see why I was interested in the insurance chip issue.

I was an avid Blackjack player but the time involved at the tables is a heck of a lot longer for me than it is for roulette.
I can count cards but with continuous shufflers and other rule restrictions on blackjack these days the player advantage dwindles ie. the house advantage % goes up, so I decided to give roulette a try.

I am fairly new to roulette but love the mathematics behind it.
With a 5%+ plus house advantage on roulette  the hit and run method is the only way to go in my opinion.

Thank you for answering my question.

[RouletteGhost]

RG

I understand. I too was only looking to break even on the dreaded '0' showing up.

I am not using a tweak per se but do bet after any sequence of 123 showing ie. 123 132 213 231 etc....
I also bet 2 columns at a time during the 123 betting round so you can see why I was interested in the insurance chip issue.

I was an avid Blackjack player but the time involved at the tables is a heck of a lot longer for me than it is for roulette.
I can count cards but with continuous shufflers and other rule restrictions on blackjack these days the player advantage dwindles ie. the house advantage % goes up, so I decided to give roulette a try.

I am fairly new to roulette but love the mathematics behind it.
With a 5%+ plus house advantage on roulette  the hit and run method is the only way to go in my opinion.

Thank you for answering my question.

No problem

Blackjack intrigued me at one point.

Because playing with basic strategy drops house edge to .5%

So i was convinced a progression would work

I was wrong lol

[Celticknits]

No problem

Blackjack intrigued me at one point.

Because playing with basic strategy drops house edge to .5%

So i was convinced a progression would work

I was wrong lol

I laughed at your statement regarding a progression betting system on blackjack and am reminded or the number of times I have seen individuals lose small fortunes using the Martingale system.
If you can card count and can find a game with liberal rules ie 1-2 deck games, surrender offered, doubling after splitting, no continuous shufflers etc you can actually have an advantage over the house. These blackjack games are few and far between these days and involve a lot of travel expense from where I live.

I was intrigued by roulette primarily because of the shorter playing times and when I stumbled on to the 123 system I decided to give it a try.
So far......So good.

[RouletteGhost]

I was thinking of using mr majiks MM with blackjack basic strategy.

It requires 1 back to back win within 12 decisions

[Celticknits]

I was thinking of using mr majiks MM with blackjack basic strategy.

It requires 1 back to back win within 12 decisions

Uh Huh!!!!!!!!!!
All I can say is DANGER DANGER DANGER!!!!!!

I have tried dozens of these methods but in the long run flat betting has always proven best.
One of the issues if you increase your bet to make up for past losses is that you may hedge on splitting and doubling down which will cost you if you don't follow through.

Here's an idea:
Pick a wager amount and multiply it by 30.
This is your BR.
I also use this BR amount as my stop limit but sometimes will quit if I lose 50-75% of it.
Play your flat bet amount until you see a 20% profit.
The ups and downs if you are playing perfect basic strategy can go on for hours with this, or, you can reach your profit level in 3 minutes.

There again you should always set a stop and profit limit in any gambling activity in my opinion.
Greed will KILL you.

Anyways, message me if you want any blackjack information as I do not want to be accused of using this roulette forum for blackjack.

-Celtic

[SimonZed1]

I have tried dozens of these methods but in the long run flat betting has always proven best.

Have you tried (edit) System? It's the only blackjack system I use. Although I dont play blackjack for real money it's a system that makes the game a lot more interesting and a lot more fun!.

Simon.

[NextYear]

Anyways, message me if you want any blackjack information as I do not want to be accused of using this roulette forum for blackjack.

If you have something useful, just show us.
Whatever can make money (?), black&white jack...
Thanks

[mogul397]

If you have something useful, just show us.
Whatever can make money (?), black&white jack...
Thanks

How about we stick to roulette here. I have no interest in BJ.

Anyway, it looks to me like there is no definitive "method" going on except to guess
at your picks and make 1,3,9 progression bets.