Still under development, so i may changes during the play. This in different to other test will be in fun mode at BV, using European wheel with a zero.
The starting bankroll is 165 Euro (I could use up to 4999), but the realistic play for most time is a bankroll less than that).
I will publish the result, not every spin, as I expect it to be 100 of thousend, if it not will crash, which allways is possible.
I will post end of each sessions I play, picture of the history pages at BV.
I could run it faster through a random number generater or old spins, but I want to play the game and make the decisions which may be during the way.
I play inside numbers, test a few bet selections in order to find the most frequent numbers. Sometimes i switch selections, and sometimes I do not select by any method. Just to see if it makes any different.
The first 651 spins is done and put the bankroll up 918 units. The attached picture shows the last spins from BV history page.
That's some impressive results. Can you please elaborate on the bet selection? I know it has to do with repeaters, but how do you know which is more likely to repeat?
Still not sure if, and wich betselection is best. Read my other posts, to get the methods I have been trying before.
936 new spins.
I have now used straight up betting one only one number at the time.
The two sessions have used number from 0 to 24, the number one time each in order 0 to 24.
Its hardly a bet selection, but still went with a plus on every number.
A few number I bet with more than one unit, once 3 and once 2.
Plus this session was 314.
Total plus up to now is 1232.
What number do you use in the "Sequence Length" field on BetVoyager?
1113 more spins number 24 to 36.
The number 32 was sleeping 403 spins, and I could get out with 32 plus. 435 max down, max
progression 4 units.
Bet one until a hit.
279 plus
Total 1511.
Quote from: Psilocyx on Aug 15, 06:32 AM 2012
What number do you use in the "Sequence Length" field on BetVoyager?
I am not sure what you mean, but if you mean the autospin, it is 1000, I stop manual when I need to.
Quote from: Ralph on Aug 15, 08:02 AM 2012
I am not sure what you mean, but if you mean the autospin, it is 1000, I stop manual when I need to.
Attached is a picture of what I mean. Do you leave that box at 10?
Quote from: Psilocyx on Aug 15, 08:27 AM 2012
Attached is a picture of what I mean. Do you leave that box at 10?
The default 10, I do not suspect the casino.
Sometimes i have adjust the settings, but that's long time since.
Some more spins.
This time I bet on numbers which had repeat 2 times.
959 spins, one very long. All numbers ended plus.
Highest progressions 8 units. (for a few spins). down at most 387.
Every number starts with 1000 on bank, and I remove after compleat a number.
Win 574 units
Total 2085
200 more spins.
This time I bet all numbers which show 2 times, until a plus of more then 10 units.
Sometimes more then 10 unit bet, no progressions.
Win 203 units.
Total 2288
Wow, very nice results Ralph!
464 more spins.
Bet on numbers which has shown back to back. I removed the oldest if I got more than six.
Win 506 units
Total: 2794
Its late here now, so it will not be more today.
Betting on a single number, one unit, try to not progress, instead wait for a few hits, they use to swarm if they wake up.
This time I got a number in very long sleep.
650 spins, and just two hits. 676 total included previous number.
I had to progress even if I did not get a hit, or stop and take a loss.
Decide to risk 2000 units and then not spend more, take a loss.
In about 1550 down, and 50 units each bet it hit, and solve the session with plus 315 units.
Two pictures from the history, the last one, and the first with this number(27).
Total 3109
Got a kind of RFH. Connection problems, lost all tracking, computer shut down due to heat.
Back around 5000 units.
Was playing repeaters, bet on double hit. Very high frequency of numbers did not double hit.
1145 spins. I did not progress, looking for if you can recover flat betting.
Decide to make a recover session using 100 fold, and go for a fast hit. Recover or total loss of the starting bankroll of 16000.
Start betting the first seven shown after the computer shut down. Betting the seven last shown with progression.
Risky? yes, but it was working. Without risks is impossible to play. Did 10 spins.
Won 2983 units
Total 6092
Whatever bet selection a number can sleep for long. This time I did in a way I have been trying before.
Bet one the first shown 2 repeat. Bet one straight up, and one at line at the number.
In case of zero, the four number bet.
Did a misstake, saw my bankroll was fast depleting, down 700 in a few spin. By misstake I have put a 100 unit chip under a 1 unit, repeating the bettings, No wonder the drawback.
Moved the 100 chip to Doz and play to get the drawback to zero. Did with some surplus, which shows for the total session.
This time (as lines are under the law of third as well) I got some chips from the line bet, until a hit on the number. No long sleeper this time. I progress only on the line bet.
366 spins
Won 1179
Total 7271
This time I bet on a repeating number and the line. Some went easy, but one had longer sleep, both the line and number. Needed two hits on the number and some more on the line to turn plus.
Win 381
Total 7652
I look for repeating numbers. All bets repeat, and a dozen which has all theire numbers allready shown, may repeat better than the three dozens on the layout.
So I spin until 12 numbers shows. Bet one unit on each, if lose bet 2 units, add a unit until a hit.
If a hit reduce the bet two units. Play until no units left or you got some winnings.
Switch to 12 new numbers.
Did 60 spins.
Won 484
Total 8136
Attached the spins except first tracking using EC.
Session 13, Yes 13. Very scary, went back 6000 units, the game could ended here.
Recovered with smaller profit, according to betsize, but decide to just save the bankroll,and
quit.
Same method as previous.
Won 129
Total 8265
The repeaters I look for this time I was trying to hedge. The number, a split, a street, a corner, a line, a dozen and an EC. Number 6.
Very hard down 5000 units, but dispite risky progression (upp until winning) I got to habour.
Win. 3218
total 11483
Trying the previous method once again. Went better the stake rises, but soon got a good hit.
Won 2866
Total 14349
RFH I lost all in the bank. We are in fun mode, so it is easy to add more money. I added 10 Euro to recover the loss.
This kind of playing is risky, but can in lucky situations turn 1000 to 100000.
I continue the play using additional 1000 total input to bank is 16100 units. I lost 16000+ the previous winnings.
Do now as any addicted who can find the money.
The problem were solved won catch up all the losses and got 380 plus.
This is very lucky, normally 1000 will not do.
Total is 14789
Ralph
Are you through with this thread?
Sam
Sam!
I may do some more later, I allways testing repeaters, and if I got some new thoughts I will post it.
Quote from: Ralph on Aug 16, 07:11 AM 2012
I look for repeating numbers. All bets repeat, and a dozen which has all theire numbers allready shown, may repeat better than the three dozens on the layout.
So I spin until 12 numbers shows. Bet one unit on each, if lose bet 2 units, add a unit until a hit.
If a hit reduce the bet two units. Play until no units left or you got some winnings.
Switch to 12 new numbers.
So may I assume the above are the rules?
Sam
Sam1
Yes that's one way, I sometimes go for seven numbers.
But I think 12 straight up repeaters use to hit more than a dozen at the layout table.
The bankroll must be bigger as you stake 12 units at the time.
The game is hardly possible if the table min is an Euro.
many times it is despite 0.01 chips, its Euros on the table.
It can go to 50 Euros in some cases. risky!!!
But it is a relation between risks and award, You can lose, but with some luck it can win
more than you ever can think.
I play safer most of the time, but sometimes I take risks, and hope for a good go.
One way is to play flat, and increase the bet if you have won, it will not accumulate the same,
far from, but you are in control of losses.
If you win and add two, you go break even if you lose, but you know sometimes the hitting are frequent, and if you play and got three hits i a row, the winning are some chips, and if you lose, the cost is as you lose once. 1,3,9.
Ralph
I am going to try to program my robot to bet like that and see what it does over 100,000 spins.
Sam
Yes, and I think you will find it losing. If you divide the large number of spins in sessions, which is how we play. Say a couple of hundred spins, you will probably find losing days and winning days.
As with lucky days we can win as much we want, we play until we fell a sleep, and
worse time we stop due to scary events.
I real life we do not play millions of spins in one go.
It will anyhow be very interesting to see.
If the loss is less then house edge, then its a signal repeaters works better than random betting,
or layout dozens.
Ralph
The idea behind a 100,000 number test is merely to get an idea of what the "worst case scenario" would be. It has truly helped me in my quest.
I never, never expect a system to pass. I just want to know when I may be entering the RFH and what decision I need to make.
I only drive 70 miles per hour, but I want to know the road is good 100 miles ahead.
Sam
I have to drive a bit slower, my sight is not as before, so I am bound to a car which in fact is a moped. A small kind of car driving 46 km/h.
Its of course very cheep in fuel, nearly 40 km/litre.
I can not translate miles and gallons.
Yes lets see the worse and the best, in a long run.
Bet on sleeping numbers makes no winnings. That's the reason I bet for numbers to repeat. Long sleepers make numbers repeat. (as it were slots missing).
This time I was trying flat betting, just one unit a number.
I did and won 100 units in five sessions in a row.
We start betting numbers which has shown 3 times, or hit back to back.
On BV we bet on zero if it shows once (I got allways zero in clusters).
That's all, flat bet until a plus of about 100. The stop loss I did not care this time, as it were
less than 200 back every time.
The hitting can come rather late, but it seems to be a shorter sequence of many hits, and then it
may be time to stop. I went on until 100 plus.
Try it with fun or low stakes, until you have tested more, I still go with 0.01 at BV.
Got three more with plus 100. The last went not so good. I was up to 24 numbers, and that is seldom god for winnings, if the other numbers start hitting, you lose two times every winnings.
I then decide to go until loss of 300, or three loss in a row.
I stopped then I could nearly come back to break even. a loss of 7 units.
I maybe should stop instead, it was 76 back then I reach 24 numbers, a new session maybe should
be a better choose for coming to new high.
I may test to not go more than to 18 numbers, then you win at least the same as a lost spin cost.
All winning sessions ended before 18 numbers.
This game I took a repeater (2 repeater) bet 1 unit (0.1) and run it until a hit.
Using progression double after 20 spins. had at most 4 numbers in play.
I reset all numbers if on new high and three or more on each bet.
Went very fine until an number did not come up for a while. It hit at last, and gave a good winning,
but it took time, over 100 spins (which can happen, even on a repeater) near 600 units bet.
It is risky, the sessions ended very profitable at 6798 units.
playing straight up, with progressions withstand 140 spins, never had use for more tha 60.
Got lucky, extreme results. After some winnings I start with higher stakes.
Yes risky, but you never win a lot without risk. Earier winnings were the stakes.
Yet some good sessions! Repeaters 2 times, and then start betting, 20 x1 20 x 2 20 x 3 ....
until hit.
Some sessions with zero I add one or more each bet covering 1,2,3 as well.
I got a hard session, needed a lot of bullits. Down 6000 units, ended 570 plus.
Seven straight up, almost all sleeping long. Number six hit often shown i marquee seven times of 21.
Did not bet on six.
Had 1000 Euro in the bank, and saw 398.8 at the low.
Lasted 335 spins.