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Birds of a Feather

Started by keel44, Aug 07, 01:37 AM 2010

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keel44

Hello all,

This system is based on the theory that certain even chances will sleep for a while then catch up.

The first thing we will do is chart 16 spins.  We will chart the spins as  L/H  O/E  R/B.  Example:   4    (LEB)
That is all we need to write down on a note card.

When we are done with that, we will look at all the possible pairings.  There are 12 of them:

H R
H B
H O
H E
L R
L B
L O
L E
R O
R E
B O
B E

We will count how many times the even chances pair up in these 16 spins.  Here is a real life example:

H R - 5
H B - 5
H O - 4
H E - 6
L R - 0
L B - 6
L O - 2
L E - 4
R O - 2
R E - 3
B O - 4
B E - 7

Looking at the lowest amounts, we can deduce that the 3 even chances we will bet are Low, Red, and Odd

We start the betting and stop the tracking. (unless you want to)

* We start with 1 unit on each and +1 on all 3 after a NET loss.  -1 after a NET win.  

* You will reset when balance reaches a new high point or EVEN

* Anytime you lose all 3, you raise +2 after every NET loss hereafter.

* Aim for about 15 - 25 units profit.  Stop and retrack

* Don't bet for too many spins.  No more than 30-40 spins.  Stop and retrack.

* A session bankroll should be 150 units in case things get hairy

keel44

On each nonzero spin there are 3 winning even-chance pairs.  (Example: 7  RO - LO - RL)  So on 16 nonzero spins there are a total of 48 profitable even-chance pairs.  There are 12 different possible pairings on any spin.  

So in a perfect world, each of the 12 combination's would hit 4 times each.  When we track our spins and see combination's with 0, 1, 2, we are behind the normal rate.  We should expect a higher rate during the next 20-30 spins.

We are covering 3 of these combination's at once, and for all 3 combination's to continue to stay behind is a rarity (in my opinion).  You couple that with a progression, we might just a have a winning system here.

keel44

I just finished a real life example.  Sorry, I did not record the actual numbers during my tracking, but I do have the finished pairings after 16 nonzero spins:

H R - 2
H B - 3
H O - 3
H E - 2
L R - 7
L B - 4
L O - 6
L E - 5
R O - 7
R E - 2
B O - 2
B E - 5

I played High, Red, Even

I won 25 units easily.  I should have stopped at 20.  I wanted to push it to 25, and then I had some struggle.  In the end, I got there.  It was amazing how many times ALL 3 hit at the same time.



KEEL

ewarwoowar

hello keel, thanks for this.

what about a progression for betting the actual numbers in the categories?

ie high red even = 30,32, 34,36.
obviously we're limiting the opportunities, but you're qualifying them in your tracking.
would be interesting to see how this plays out.

cheers.
in faecorum semper solum profundum variat

keel44

On those numbers you just mentioned.  They all hit in that particular test run.  All within 25 spins.

I have not considered this, but you could be right.  Only time will tell.

KEEL

Boo_Ray

thanks.. I will test it out when I got some time :)

jordan69

Thanks for the idea man.

Interesting system.
Deserves more tests for sure.
I like the EC'S :)

As always, we have to determine a realistic target win (not to greedy)
and a clear stop loss.
Cheers.

Jordan69
English is not my first language...
but i try my best !
Welcome to my polish friends !

keel44

Quote from: ewarwoowar on Aug 07, 04:31 AM 2010
Hello keel, thanks for this.

what about a progression for betting the actual numbers in the categories?

ie high red even = 30,32, 34,36.
obviously we're limiting the opportunities, but you're qualifying them in your tracking.
would be interesting to see how this plays out.

cheers.



O.K.  I have tried 2 test runs using this idea.  It works great.  I hit many times when betting the 4 to 5 numbers straight up.  Flat bets.  I stopped at +67 one time and +109 another time.  They both would have been profitable my original way as well.

I know it is very early in the testing phase.  It seems to be a winner of a system. 


KEEL

ewarwoowar

ok, i've just run through quick tests using live spins.

some of the number groups have 4 numbers, some  have 5, so different progression needed.

session 1:
number group HRE
spins: 6
profit: 12 units

session 2:
number group HBO
spins: 13
profit 16 units

session 3:
number group HBO
spins: 9
profit 28 units

session 4:
number group LRE
spins: 1
profit 32 units

session 5:
number group HRE
spins: 2
profit 28 units

far too early, but enough promise to warrant a further look  :thumbsup:
in faecorum semper solum profundum variat

keel44

Great job.  Great results.  I take it you tracked the numbers correctly.  16 spins?  Does not have to be exactly 16.

I wouldn't chase too long for a hit.  Better to accept a smaller loss and move on.  You don't have to stop after first hit neither.

Have you tried my original method?


KEEL

ewarwoowar

no, i haven't tried your original method  :-[
it was just something that struck me as i read your post.
in testing, i was surprised how quickly the numbers came in. i know it's early days.

i tracked for 16 spins, except for the one time i tracked for 17 because a zero came in.

cheers.
in faecorum semper solum profundum variat

ewarwoowar

another 5 test sessions, same selection criteria as above.

session 1:
number group LBE
spins 1
profit 31 units

session 2:
number group: LBO
spins 5
profit 16 units

session 3:
number group: LRO
spins 3
profit 21 units

session 4:
number group: HBE
spins 7
profit 32 units

session 5:
number group: HBO
spins 9
profit 28 units

in faecorum semper solum profundum variat

Kattila

Good  method guys Keel and  Ewarwoowar. Keep testing.   :thumbsup:



Try this hibrid ,too.
Same way like Ewarwoowar, wait  12-16 spins,but  bet 6 numbers.

R1   B1   R2   B2   R3   B3  

1     2     14   13   25   26    
3     4     16   15   27   28    
5     6     18   17   30   29    
7     8     19   20   32   31    
9     10   21   22   34   33    
12   11   23   24   36   35    



dennisbelle

Kattila,
    When you say "Anytime you lose all 3, you raise +2 after every NET loss hereafter" do you mean to raise +2 on the very next spin or do you mean to raise +2 on all of the spins that have a net loss until the next reset?
     Also on your sample in reply #2 you had 4 combinations that had 2 spins each.  In this instance you left out the "B" since you can't bet R & B at the same time.  How do you decide which one to leave out?
Thanks,
Dennis

Kattila

Dennis  you have to ask Keel44,   is not my system. 

Cheers. 

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