Yes you heard me right....LIFE BET....test it as you wish
and you will find out.Rules explained in excel.It also relays
on repeats which occure in long trends on sectors either way
last or furthest....therefore you can end your game as you wish.
Good luck guys and this would be my last thread as my mission
here is accomplished.Vile/FLAT_IN_O
Thanks for sharing vile.
This is how it should be done (sharing your proud work)
BW
Thanks a lot for shareing
If I'm not mistakeing isn't there an error in the numbers?
I just took a look, at row 51 it says +20 and -16 - shouldn't it be +10 and -8?
we did not go up 1 unit there because we are overall up for that cycle
Or am I wrong?
Thanks very much!
Quote from: soggett on Jul 04, 03:46 AM 2012
Thanks a lot for shareing
If I'm not mistakeing isn't there an error in the numbers?
I just took a look, at row 51 it says +20 and -16 - shouldn't it be +10 and -8?
we did not go up 1 unit there because we are overall up for that cycle
Or am I wrong?
--Thanks you are right but it doesn't change anything.....10 am here and 34 cels.
maybe reason for error......just come from swimming...hooooot
Quote from: vile on Jul 04, 03:58 AM 2012
--Thanks you are right but it doesn't change anything.....10 am here and 34 cels.
maybe reason for error......just come from swimming...hooooot
np, just wanted to know so I can play it right
I uderstand completly, here is hot too but I have nowhere to go swimming :(
lucky you ;)
also I got to ask;
rows 33,38 and 44 shouldn't there be +10 instead of +20?
you are right......36 cels.now...it doesn't change anything as far as method is concerned,
glad that you spotted it which means you are getting it seriously.Do that you won't regret
I assure you.
THX 4 Sharing.
What is the rule exactly about?
"START BETTING AFTER ALL 9 SECTORS HIT"
You started betting although sector 5 is missing.
Quote from: vile on Jul 04, 05:20 AM 2012
you are right......36 cels.now...it doesn't change anything as far as method is concerned,
glad that you spotted it which means you are getting it seriously.Do that you won't regret
I assure you.
Thanks ;)
Is the BR required the same as for PCWB - 1000 units?
and should we have the same wingoal of 100 units per session also?
Quote from: soggett on Jul 04, 06:42 AM 2012
Thanks ;)
Is the BR required the same as for PCWB - 1000 units?
and should we have the same wingoal of 100 units per session also?
As far as I'm concerned no any requirements,don't stop playing as it
wins in continuations...LOL-if you play online just instal the bot and
let it make dough until they kick you out.
Quote from: vile on Jul 04, 06:53 AM 2012
As far as I'm concerned no any requirements,don't stop playing as it
wins in continuations...LoL-if you play online just instal the bot and
let it make dough until they kick you out.
Now thats my kind of system ;D ;D
Thers a bot for it already? where?
Just did a test session, it does quite well, went down 60 units but recovered in 1 cycle to plus. I ran out of nubers to see what happened next - will test larger sample
Quote from: vile on Jul 04, 02:59 AM 2012
Vile/FLAT_IN_O
OMFG! i knew your syle of writing look familiar. ;D
welcome back FLAT!
Quote from: ophis on Jul 04, 07:10 AM 2012
OMFG! i knew your syle of writing look familiar. ;D
welcome back FLAT!
Hi Ophis,
This think is worth putting into bot for these that play online.
Quote from: soggett on Jul 04, 07:04 AM 2012
Now that's my kind of system ;D ;D
Thers a bot for it already? where?
Just did a test session, it does quite well, went down 60 units but recovered in 1 cycle to plus. I ran out of nubers to see what happened next - will test larger sample
Usually do 300 -350 spins test what would equal a night session play.
The advantage of these cycles is great as in each cycle we can mostly lose 14 chips on 2 opposite chops and eventually zero and middle sector-Repeats are inevitable here and that's that.
Quote from: ophis on Jul 04, 07:10 AM 2012
OMFG! i knew your syle of writing look familiar. ;D
welcome back FLAT!
Omg I didn't get that :-[
I thought that Vile was working with Flat so thats why he wrote it down like that :-[ :-[ :-[
welcome back from me too, great to have you back :-*
One question - if we are lets say down 50 units and we play a cycle with 3 units per split. If we at some point get in plus with our previous BR can we reset chips to 1 unit per split even if we are in the middle of a cycle? I hope you understand what I ask, if not I can ask it in croatian ;)
I ask cause that just happened, i was testing it over a larger sample and i noticed that if I had reseted when I was up it wouldnt go deeper in the hole -smaller drawdowns
I'll be the first to kick in for a bot.......
What say guys? How much Ophis?
May buy it myself for me only.
Sam
Thanks Vile
For this system you can use the old CWB_Tracker_v051 made by Ophis long time ago in MOD 3 option. :thumbsup:
link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=syKZsU0L56U# (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=syKZsU0L56U#)
Quote from: ophis on Jul 04, 08:01 AM 2012
link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=syKZsU0L56U# (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=syKZsU0L56U#)
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Quote from: vile on Jul 04, 06:53 AM 2012
As far as I'm concerned no any requirements,don't stop playing as it
wins in continuations...LoL-if you play online just instal the bot and
let it make dough until they kick you out.
What bot are you talking about?
Quote from: malcop on Jul 04, 08:23 AM 2012
What bot are you talking about?
:question: :question: :question: :question: :question:
"""OMFG! i knew your syle of writing look familiar. ;D
welcome back FLAT!"""
Yes ur English are improved casinopitbull,Flatino,Vile :D
But is this the 3d or the 4th time that u claim that u have found a consistant winning bet and that u are leaving the forum?
And after this u are coming back because the bet lost and u are searching for an other one....
Anyway I am glad u finally understood that a winning bet must always win without stop losses and winning targets and let s hope u found one this time....
Thanks for posting ur work.
Quote from: soggett on Jul 04, 07:25 AM 2012
Omg I didn't get that :-[
I thought that Vile was working with Flat so that's why he wrote it down like that :-[ :-[ :-[
welcome back from me too, great to have you back :-*
One question - if we are lets say down 50 units and we play a cycle with 3 units per split. If we at some point get in plus with our previous BR can we reset chips to 1 unit per split even if we are in the middle of a cycle? I hope you understand what I ask, if not I can ask it in croatian ;)
I ask cause that just happened, i was testing it over a larger sample and i noticed that if I had reseted when I was up it wouldnt go deeper in the hole -smaller drawdowns
No strict rules as progression is concerned...balanced 1+1-which mean sometimes after certain cycle you will go from 7 back to 2,always having balancing control-you might have 6 CYCLE LOSES IN THE ROW,and 7th.cycle gets you where you been 10 min.ago.
Quote from: jarabo002 on Jul 04, 07:56 AM 2012
Thanks Vile
For this system you can use the old CWB_Tracker_v051 made by Ophis long time ago in MOD 3 option. :thumbsup:
No you can not.
Vile or anyone who knows this system well enough to answer some questions.
Just so I'm sure I understand the rules, let me state them and ask some questions so you can correct them if there's an error.
1. We track until all 9 sectors have hit.
2. Then we bet 1 unit on 8 sectors. The 4 sectors that hit the most recent and the 4 sector that hit farthest back. We do not bet on the middle sector or zero. That costs us 16 units.
3. If the middle sector or zero hits, we rebet the same 8 sectors but we increase our bet to 2 units on all 8 sectors which is 32 untis. (Is that correct? Or do we stay at 1 unit when the middle sector or zero hits during an 8 sector bet?)
4. Let's ignore #3 and say that one of the 4 most recent sectors hit. We now continue to bet on those 4 sectors until we lose.
5. Once we lose we switch to the 4 furthest back sectors and bet them until they lose.
6. We do not recalculate the sectors until we have won and finally lost on both sets of sectors.
7. Question. Let's say we are betting the 1234 sectors as most recent and the 6789 sectors as furthest back. We bet 1 unit on each sector for 16 units total. The 1234 hits and we are at +2. We quit betting on the 6789 sectors and continue to bet on the 1234 until we finally lose. At that time we begin betting on 6789 until it loses. What if it loses on this first bet? Does that end that cycle? This where I'm confused. If we increase by 1 unit after a loss but a loss ends betting on those 4 sectors, does that mean we will be betting 2 units on the opposite sectors?
If you can clear up the above, I'll continue with more later?
Thanks for sharing this with us,
George
Thanks Flat, got it now ;)
@GLC
3. we stay at 1 unit
7. we would bet 1 unit on 6789 and after it losses its and end of cycle 1 - now we raise to 2 units
so we raise only after a cycle ends - not in the middle of a cycle
and yes, like you said, the cycle ends after we have won and finally lost on both sets of sectors
next question please 8)
Quote from: GLC on Jul 04, 10:02 AM 2012
Vile or anyone who knows this system well enough to answer some questions.
Just so I'm sure I understand the rules, let me state them and ask some questions so you can correct them if there's an error.
1. We track until all 9 sectors have hit.
2. Then we bet 1 unit on 8 sectors. The 4 sectors that hit the most recent and the 4 sector that hit farthest back. We do not bet on the middle sector or zero. That costs us 16 units.
3. If the middle sector or zero hits, we rebet the same 8 sectors but we increase our bet to 2 units on all 8 sectors which is 32 untis. (Is that correct? Or do we stay at 1 unit when the middle sector or zero hits during an 8 sector bet?)--we don't increase to 2 un.when zero or mid sector hit....we only do so after each losing cycle.
4. Let's ignore #3 and say that one of the 4 most recent sectors hit. We now continue to bet on those 4 sectors until we lose.
5. Once we lose we switch to the 4 furthest back sectors and bet them until they lose.
6. We do not recalculate the sectors until we have won and finally lost on both sets of sectors.
7. Question. Let's say we are betting the 1234 sectors as most recent and the 6789 sectors as furthest back. We bet 1 unit on each sector for 16 units total. The 1234 hits and we are at +2. We quit betting on the 6789 sectors and continue to bet on the 1234 until we finally lose. At that time we begin betting on 6789 until it loses. What if it loses on this first bet? Does that end that cycle? This where I'm confused. If we increase by 1 unit after a loss but a loss ends betting on those 4 sectors, does that mean we will be betting 2 units on the opposite sectors?
If you can clear up the above, I'll continue with more later?
Thanks for sharing this with us,
George
George mate,,the shorthest cycle attack is;
w,l,l...3 trays 14 -furthest=W,L....recent =L
shoot George......it entirely relays on repeats and those inevitably happen
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 04, 07:29 AM 2012
I'll be the first to kick in for a bot.......
What say guys? How much Ophis?
May buy it myself for me only.
Sam
I would like to contribute for the bot.
Cheers.
Quote from: Shogun on Jul 04, 01:15 PM 2012
I would like to contribute for the bot.
Cheers.
--For you that play online guys I would strongly recommend it.
Quote from: Shogun on Jul 04, 01:15 PM 2012
I would like to contribute for the bot.
Cheers.
Moi aussi.
Ophis?
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 04, 07:29 AM 2012
I'll be the first to kick in for a bot.......
What say guys? How much Ophis?
May buy it myself for me only.
Sam
Count me in, Ophis I take it you are asking for the same amount as system9?
Thank you for this system vile,
Regarding the bot do you think your system would work well against RNG or would the bot be better against online live?
Cheers.
Shogun,
Frankly I wouldn't have a clue as I don't play neither RNG or online.
To my way of thinking if the method is so strong it should win anywhere.
Attaching continuation of the method on same excel as opening one,which
is by the way wiesbaden session from 01 o7 2012/the freshest one/--and here
you can take a close look from spin 269 to 289 the strikes on both sides
and 5 loses of middle sector in one cycle attack.
Quote from: malcop on Jul 04, 02:10 PM 2012
Count me in, Ophis I take it you are asking for the same amount as system9?
yes. same features. same price.
Quote from: ophis on Jul 04, 03:38 PM 2012
yes. same features. same price.
Sounds good to me guys :)
I to would like to help finance a bot.
Trebor
Count me in for the bot. This sounds extremely promising!
Flatino can u explain us why u chose those 9 groups?
@Ophis
hello ophis you have always done very good bot ,you work vert quickly
count on me for finanve another time as i have already payed for system 9
how many people are ready to finance?
how mutch?
i send you money on your paypal account
@Vile
can you tell me if the bot will be public
or only for those who have payed ?
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jul 04, 05:53 PM 2012
F_LAT_INO can you explain us why u chose those 9 groups?
I think you can read about it, if you want. I havent but I think Flat have played "few" years of roulette and he is not lier. Sure about that.
Regards Timo
I am sure the planning and etc of the bot will come together soon and those who wish to offer a donation to help make the bot a reality will be able to do so.
I knew it was FLAT because who else plays en prison and/or la partage (EC bets) everyday at the tables in Nice?! The only thing we don't know is whether he wears a tuxedo or not, and how he likes his drink (ie. shaken, not stirred).
Just kidding. ;)
P.S. I still believe in Code 20 though. And i believe John Legend wears a tuxedo.
Question: Is this bet considered better then PCWB (mod 8) as previously laid out? Is there a difference?
There is so many useful software from Ophis for free...no it's time to pay back...count on me for a donation for this bot too.
And Flat remembers Compa, you were both RIGHT.. :)
Regards Timo
Thank you Flatino for posting your great systems. Wish I had known you were back a lot sooner. Thought you had gone. Maybe Winkel has a different forum name as well? I think its amk :)
Hello Ophis.
Will the bot be able to play on any live online casino? Would it automatically place bets continually until a certain amount of units are won?
Would the bot work with Windows 7?
P.S.
I typed "F l a t i n o" connecting while writing. When I posted, it automatically became F_LAT_INO
Howd that happen?
If Ophis makes a bot, i think what i will do is make another bot that controls ophis's bot using AutoIt3. The purpose of this bot would be to mimic human behavior so as to avoid being kicked out and/or disqualified...so as to stay under the radar...in order to make money longer.
What i would appreciate are some suggestions about what is considered normal human behavior...what is the signature of the average person who logs into an online casino on a daily basis. For starters, i don't think the bot ought to be allowed to play more than four hours per day (at the same casino), and not too fast. I'm sure it could also be set to play until a certain number of units were won...or lost. Any suggestions?
link:://:.autoitscript.com/site/autoit/ (link:://:.autoitscript.com/site/autoit/)
P.S.~ I also think the whole thing could be set up on a server out in the cloud such as with Amazon Web Services Ec2...and that the location of the server can be a matter of choice to get around US problems with IP addresses. But that's speculative as yet.
Still,
I think the bot would just have to play random amounts of time, ranging form 20 minutes to an hour perhaps 2. What is important is to never have a playing time end on rounded minutes, for example 20 or 40 ect. The times would have to be random, sometimes 22 minutes or 46, 128 etc never 20,30,40,50 etc
Just playing for a certain amount of units per session would do the trick I think. Sometimes 2,8,11 etc however never longer than say 2 hours. So on average the units won per game would not exceed perhaps 8.
I don't think you can prove that is a bot playing and in essence it is not. It is doing what is humanly possible, how you would actually play it. You would not play for 8 or 12 consecutive hours per day.
@amk
Thanks very much. I think all that is very doable; random start/stop (within a range of odd minutes); length of play; stop at a range of units won (example: 2-11) or lost; variable session lengths not exceeding 2 hours each. Random rest periods (including a daily rest of at least 10 hours). Only thing left is the rate of spins. For sure, the rate of spinning cannot be constant. That too must vary a bit, and must be on average x per minute. Any suggestions on x per minute appreciated.
Also, i don't think you are Winkle because it appears that American/English is your native language (same as mine). His is German if i'm not mistaken. ;)
I would only let the bot play live wheel Still.
Your right, Im not Winkel LoL.
He might be out there though?
Hello???
Quote from: amk on Jul 04, 09:04 PM 2012
I would only let the bot play live wheel Still.
The AutoIt bot could play either (it would just control the playing bot) so it would be up to the player and whatever Ophis' bot (or whatever bot) could handle/play. I suppose it could also select between various casino accounts, whether live wheel or RNG.
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jul 04, 05:53 PM 2012
F_LAT_INO can you explain us why u chose those 9 groups?
-
--Can....Last few years have been stydy and playing PCWB all sort of versions,
some lose some win,and throughout this time noticed that these sectors have a tendency
of repeating,especially at the start of this journey,when playing 4/5 furthest sectors.
Also noticed that sleeping sectors once awakened do it in repeating fashion.Hence why
now created this method which btw relays on repeaters.
Quote from: roulettefan on Jul 04, 06:49 PM 2012
@Ophis
@Vile
can you tell me if the bot will be public
or only for those who have payed ?
--Wouldn't know mate,should ask Dr.Ophis
Quote from: Timo on Jul 04, 06:55 PM 2012
I think you can read about it, if you want. I haven't but I think Flat have played "few" years of roulette and he is not lier. Sure about that.
Regards Timo
--And btw just come from night session of about 4 hours.
The method gents works superb,but without decent BR
you can't play this,nor any other method in live casino.
Quote from: Still on Jul 04, 07:00 PM 2012
Question: Is this bet considered better then PCWB (mod 8) as previously laid out? Is there a difference?
There is a great difference.
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jul 04, 10:03 PM 2012
don't u think that to make such claims, the bet has to be tested 1st in a lot of spins?
--Man if you read my rules of play you will find out that testing zillion spins
is for these that don't play roulette,and am testing wiesbaden session one by one
that is how I do.And if you wish to test this do it also session by session and at the end
of hundreds session you will find if it works or not.....that's exactly how I did it.
Did you notice my excel date.Start from today and backwards and you will find out if it works or not.
Quote from: vile on Jul 04, 09:39 PM 2012
--And by the way just come from night session of about 4 hours.
The method gents works superb,but without decent BR
you can't play this,nor any other method in live casino.
------------------
hi Flatino, would you say 1000u BR should survive with this bet?!
vundarosa
Just 2 questions. Why do we win 2u betting 8u on 8 out of 9 sectors? In my math if we bet 1u on each sector its 0.5u bet on each split n it pays 9u. And why don't we bet virtually 2 determine which sector 2 bet on? Risking 8 units 2 win 1u its not such a good idea in my opinion. ;D
P.S
Never mind math, i got it wrong. Here where i live is basically always very hot. ;D
I don't bother about BR when going to play.
Here attached final score of started excel,
and if any typos,sorry.And you can see from
the session in excel how this behave and what's
the highest drawndown there was.
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jul 04, 10:26 PM 2012
"""-Man if you read my rules of play you will find out that testing zillion spins
is for these that don't play roulette,"""
But u said earlier that with this bet we can play continuously in as many spins as we want!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did that change???????
Continously per a session,now some sleep after hard night casino work.
Quote from: vile on Jul 04, 10:41 PM 2012
I don't bother about BR when going to play.
Here attached final score of started excel,
and if any typos,sorry.And you can see from
the session in excel how this behave and what's
the highest drawndown there was.
Thats fine FLAT. It happens i guess everybody figured math part of it. ;D
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jul 04, 10:39 PM 2012
Just 2 questions. Why do we win 2u betting 8u on 8 out of 9 sectors? In my math if we bet 1u on each sector its 0.5u bet on each split n it pays 9u. And why don't we bet virtually 2 determine which sector 2 bet on? Risking 8 units 2 win 1u its not such a good idea in my opinion. ;D
Wrong but got going to sleep now.Those 2 units,sometimes more covers 1/3 of our loses
on zero and 5th.sector...have a look in excel.
I'm familiar with the other PCWB version but having trouble following the excel.
If someone understands this mod would you post a quick explanation in layman's language
great thx
vundarosa
@ophis
hello i have paid now via paypal
on your paypal account
osh.teos@gmail.com
15 euros
please other member pay ans you will have the bot
as ophis work very fast and he is very serious
Quote from: roulettefan on Jul 05, 04:29 AM 2012
@ophis
hello i have paid now via paypal
on your paypal account
osh.teos@gmail.com
15 euros
please other member pay ans you will have the bot
as ophis work very fast and he is very serious
Has ophis aggreed to create this tracker/bot yet?
Once he has said he is doing this, then I will be happy to contribute, we know it will cost 100 euro to do this project.
Thanks
malcop
a few post ago ophis say that it was same price
for this new bot
reply33
Hey, alitle offtopic, but I would like to try out that system 9 bot someone was talking about. If I like it, I can contribute too for this new one. Where can I see or try this system9 bot?
Thanks
yes i will make bot for this.
also with enough support we can think about implementing more casinos... live as well.
thank Ophis
to confirm what i have sayed
you are the boss of bot
you can go on your paypal account to collect your money
i prefer the bot only for those who pay
because here people don't want to spend money
they want everythink for free
and they wait other people paid for them !
no offence only what i see here
I have been made a 10 â,¬ contribution for the new PCWB bot to Ophis moneybookers account.
Public or private bot, for me it is the same so i prefer public.
Quote from: vladir on Jul 05, 07:33 AM 2012
Hey, alitle offtopic, but I would like to try out that system 9 bot someone was talking about. If I like it, I can contribute too for this new one. Where can I see or try this system9 bot?
Thanks
You can try it here but system 9 is a bust in my opinion n his creator was banned so use yr judgement
;D
Ophis...please let me know your account details.
i will donate another 10 euros for the bot.
cheers
Ophis,
Could this tracker/bot include a clicker, to place bets when using just as a tracker in manual mode, I know for now this will just be BV, but as more casinos are supported then that would be most useful.
Thanks
malcop
I just want to point out that some members of the forum don't have access to on-line play and therefore the tracker doesn't help us, unless it's to make testing easier.
For those of you who do play on-line and a good tracker can make your play easier, I think you should contribute to it's development. I also think that making it only available to those who chip in is reasonable. My guess is that those who don't chip in aren't going to use it anyway.
To have it available for us when we may be allowed to play on-line by our antiquated government in the future, if it could be available for purchase from Ophis, that would be reasonable also.
GLC
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jul 05, 08:51 AM 2012
You can try it here but system 9 is a bust in my opinion n his creator was banned so use yr judgement
;D
Any reason for this ban and delete of his topic?
QuoteAny reason for this ban and delete of his topic?
He's a wind up merchant, read over on VLS, look for John Gold, that's if his threads still exist, you've all been framed, 2 nil to him, Steve banned him because of his departing comments on VLS, he caught a load of members there too!!
Quote from: ophis on Jul 05, 09:27 AM 2012
Any reason for this ban and delete of his topic?
Hi ophis,
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9704.255 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9704.255)
Post #267
malcop
Quote from: ophis on Jul 05, 09:27 AM 2012
Any reason for this ban and delete of his topic?
Ask Steve n read my posts in testing zone. I dont like 2 put down a guy but his claims that he could recover 9 out of 10 times out of 70u deficit n make 30u profit were just opposite what i found using your tracker n testing various sessions. Its that his system simply does not work period.
Guys,
what does PCWB stand for? i looked for it but i couldn't find an answer...
thanks!
PROMISED CONSTANT WINNING BET (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=326.0)
link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=tX55HEX0hb0# (link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=tX55HEX0hb0#)
Quote from: ophis on Jul 05, 07:35 AM 2012
yes i will make bot for this.
also with enough support we can think about implementing more casinos... live as well.
I would donate to the bot if it supported DublinBet, any chance..??
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jul 05, 09:48 AM 2012
Ask Steve n read my posts in testing zone. I don't like 2 put down a guy but his claims that he could recover 9 out of 10 times out of 70u deficit n make 30u profit were just opposite what i found using your tracker n testing various sessions. Its that his system simply does not work period.
Does this mean the money I've won with the System 9 bot is imaginary :) .
Maybe I've just been going through a lucky purple patch and it will all end soon. Won't be the first time.
Meanwhile I've sent Ophis 10 euros to help with the new bot.
Trebor
Hmmm....Im really not getting something here...mabe someone can explain.
Im going to probably get banned or something for walking around the prayer circle the wrong way (midnight express) but I have to ask.
We have someone who left because they had a winning system who comes back for months as someone else without telling anyone. I think the motto at the bottom was something like "Im too busy winning in casinos to come in here posting...."
They give a system which covers 32 numbers and wins 2 U, or loses 32. Normally the poster would be castigated for presenting such a naive system idea....thats if anyone actually replied. In fact, replies would have been 0.....fact.
Within 3 minutes, everyone is hooping and hollering that someone who they thought was a friend was pretending to be someone else without letting them know, then throwing money left right and centre to have a bot made before anyone has even placed a chip on the table.
I really really dont get it. Everyone is acting like deciples of some new loony church.
Infact, the only posts that seem to make any sense are from MOP.
Thats probably my last post as turnerfeck...lol
If you get chance to see it before its deleted, PM me if you agree. Otherwise....its madness Ted!!!
Ophis mate,
Only few suggestions about stakings level;
--Any los under 10 ch.in individual cycle attack---bet same next cycle attack
--Any los over 10 ch. in individual cycle attack---rise 1 ch. next cycle attack.
--Any los over 10 ch.in dual cycle attack --rise 1 ch.next cycle attack.
--Any los over 10 ch.in triple cycle attack--rise 1 ch.next cycle atack.
--Any win from 10 -20 ch.--in individual cycle attack--reduce 1 ch.
--......................20-40................................................reduce 2 ch.
.......................40-60...............................................reduce 3 ch.
.........................60-80...............................................reduce 4 ch.
.........................60-100.............................................reduce 5 ch.
-You get the idea....any suggestion from you.
Quote from: trebor on Jul 05, 01:54 PM 2012
Does this mean the money I've won with the System 9 bot is imaginary :) .
Maybe I've just been going through a lucky purple patch and it will all end soon. Won't be the first time.
Meanwhile I've sent Ophis 10 euros to help with the new bot.
Trebor
Exactly u were lucky Trebor. And do u really believe FL's claim that 9 out of 10 times he recovered from 70u down n even made a profit? ;D Come on. Only reason that people bothered with this system were fancy charts n tracker that was luckily done by Ophis. Just load some spins n f u test it properly u will realize that u were just plain lucky.
Regards
They give a system which covers 32 numbers and wins 2 U, or loses 32.
Assuming you are refering to this method,then must unswer that
you really don't grasp deeply into this method and why first triggering bet is
as such/I could virtually pass this spin/but the fact remains that overall winnings
of those 2 units/or more/are covering more then 1/3 of loses on zero and mid.sector.
And mr.MOP HAVE DELETED YOUR POST AS USUAL COUSE YOU HAVE STARTED PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAIN........MODERATOR DO SOMETHING PLS.
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jul 05, 02:34 PM 2012
And casinopitbull/F_LAT_INO/vile is the same person
@ MOP
no they are not the same person.
O0
A bot not assured winnings if the brain is not also used.
It's nice finding a winning system, we are fools for it? possible, but you can not even imagine how much you learn along the way.
There are any members who no longer participate in this forum simply because they have found their holy grail. Maybe tomorrow you or me may will be the next ones, and yes, we are poor deluded.
Something eating you MOP...you promised to Iggiv mod.that you shall not
interfere in my threads any longer.....but there you pop in again.
Why?????Couse people.here are ignoring your threads and you want to be
in headlines all time.Live your own life and let others live..ever hear of that.
You like Cyprian BABUSKA----grow up and start going to casino you might
see light on the other side...and by the way suggest to you to learn this method by
heart...maybe you get rich if you grasp it.
@ MOP
no they are not the same person !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
O0
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jul 05, 03:16 PM 2012
sure they are
You can believe what you wish.
I will stick with knowing the truth.
O0
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jul 05, 03:16 PM 2012
sure they are
I'm curious, how do you know they are, master?
This is all out of topic therefore bye...out you go.....unless you wish to show us how this method doesn't work....with proper permanenzes that we can check it up/as I don't believe you/but you
would have done it in last 3 days but couldn't find a losing session.Am I right MOP.
I CHALLENGE YOU ON THIS...and in future only topic.
300000 spins...you are another joker or comp.freak...how many spins do you play in night session,if you ever.ONLY PPL THAT DON'T PLAY FOR REAL/95% here/are testing thatway and all pick up the same formula from each other,AND SINCE YOU ARE OUT OF TOPIC....BYE
MODERATOR WOULD YOU PLS.WARN MOP TO STOP INTERFERING WITH
THIS THREAD WITH COMMENTS WHICH ARE OUT OF TOPIC.
Now I know why I dont post here much these days.
Come on guys cant we all get along.
LOL
Ophis, how your work with the bot goes?
Have you been started with it? :wink:
Quote from: jarabo002 on Jul 05, 04:21 PM 2012
Ophis, how your work with the bot goes?
Have you been started with it? :wink:
no didint start yet. waiting for some donations... and suggestions...
what should be next casino implemented...
BV will be for 100 euro... but implementing other casinos takes time... and time is money.
ophis can you implement smartlive ?
as i am in France i cannot have acces to all casino
i also understand that its a hard work
i am ready to pay for and you know it
is the bot play only with Bv or there will be a manual function
for playing with my own permanence for making additional test and tweak?
how mutch money you need to implement for a specific casino
are you gonna implement the money management suggestion vile show us a few post before ?
Just as an interesting idea. Can't see all the angles, but what if 10 players sat around the roulette table with a 1000 BR each. They all played different methods. At the end of +-2 hours play they divided the winnings amongst themselves and continued.... At some points they would increase their betting amounts and some players wouldn't?
Hi Amk
Been working on that idea for 6 months :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Ophis
I'm happy to contribute to the bot, I am also interested in Smartlive but understand the extra. Contributions that would deserve
Gordon
Gordonline!! where have you been!!??
It seems that I haven't seen you around since CODE 4 actuals for testing last summer!
Lets play :)
Hi Amk
Apologies for my absense, I have been working on some Internet marketing amongst having to work for a living lol
I do keep an eye on the forum but it has been quite negative lately and I haven't time for all the bitching
I mainly play online at smart live, don't like RNG, still a million short of becoming a millionaire lol
Gordon :)
Quote from: Master_of_pockets on Jul 05, 03:56 PM 2012
@ Vile
I already tested your privius method and I posted the results of 300 spins that lost Huge!!!Atlantis confirmed because I had posted the spins.....
What U did was deleting my post at least 10 times (like u did in this one too so I am copying/pasting it again)
and also u claimed that the numbers weren t real and that I on perpose posted fake spins numbers to show that your unbeatable method can lose....
UNREAL!
So thanks but I don't have the mood to do it again , as I already know how You are gonna react!
Ps... the proof that Vile is Casinopitbull is that he deleted this post .
If you are so fu+king smart, so show it.
Regads Timo
Vile have something but Brutus not. :twisted:
Regards Timo
To whomever deleted my post:
Why?
I am telling the truth.
Sam
Quote from: amk on Jul 05, 06:33 PM 2012
Just as an interesting idea. Can't see all the angles, but what if 10 players sat around the roulette table with a 1000 BR each. They all played different methods. At the end of +-2 hours play they divided the winnings amongst themselves and continued.... At some points they would increase their betting amounts and some players wouldn't?
i was thinking something alike too.. what if 2 or more players play two systems that when one system loose the other breaks even with the loss, and all the way aroung. BUT when the 2 systems win, the players make profit ;D Sounds like sci-fi right? :love:
Quote from: unre4lbg on Jul 06, 03:38 AM 2012
i was thinking something alike too.. what if 2 or more players play two systems that when one system lose the other breaks even with the loss, and all the way aroung. BUT when the 2 systems win, the players make profit ;D Sounds like sci-fi right? :love:
It a bit strange last night, I was discussing the very same subject with a forum member on Skype, checked in the forum and saw AMK's post! It seems a lot of us have been having the same idea of team play :thumbsup:
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 05, 11:14 PM 2012
To whomever deleted my post:
Why?
I am telling the truth.
Sam
Sam, I never saw your post what was in it?
Quote from: ophis on Jul 05, 06:17 PM 2012
no didint start yet. waiting for some donations... and suggestions...
what should be next casino implemented...
BV will be for 100 euro... but implementing other casinos takes time... and time is money.
Hi ophis, I know you will do BV first, and that is not a problem that way we can see how the system works with the tracker/bot. Once we are happy then we can request diffrent casinos, you already know that I wan't William Hill and will pay for that if the system pans out.
As far as requests are concerned I would like a clicker like MST so that the software can place bets for you when you are using the software in manual/tracker mode, that is crucial for me because trying to get all my bets on in under 30 seconds is not always easy.
I will send you my payment toninght when I get back from some business I have to tend to, hopefully by then you would have received a few more payments and can start coding.
BTW do you have Neteller? Would rather send payment that way if I can, not paypal it is.
Thanks
malcop
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 05, 11:14 PM 2012
To whomever deleted my post:
Why?
I am telling the truth.
Sam
Sam,
I did as the subject was on your own thread,discussed with other members/there are more then
100/that downloaded Ophis bot and nobody reported virus except you.Some even try to help you
how to solve problem,but you are convinced it come from Ophis bot.Why posting it again in my thread..only you know it.Try to scan it to other/wife computer/and you will find the truth...or you can scan it to me and I will download it and report back.
OK, Vile, no problem.
Quote from: vile on Jul 05, 02:15 PM 2012
Ophis mate,
Only few suggestions about stakings level;
--Any los under 10 ch.in individual cycle attack---bet same next cycle attack
--Any los over 10 ch. in individual cycle attack---rise 1 ch. next cycle attack.
--Any los over 10 ch.in dual cycle attack --rise 1 ch.next cycle attack.
--Any los over 10 ch.in triple cycle attack--rise 1 ch.next cycle atack.
--Any win from 10 -20 ch.--in individual cycle attack--reduce 1 ch.
--......................20-40................................................reduce 2 ch.
.......................40-60...............................................reduce 3 ch.
.........................60-80...............................................reduce 4 ch.
.........................60-100.............................................reduce 5 ch.
-You get the idea....any suggestion from you.
Just a clarification.The +1 chip on single,dual or triple cycle attack when we have -10 loss adds up?Exmaple:
100 chips
next cycle
88 chips (-12 so we raise +1)
next cycle
66 chips (-22,
so now we raise only +1 for the 88-66 loss or +2 for the 100-66 loss and 88-66 loss?)
Quote from: xxlakis on Jul 06, 10:17 AM 2012
Just a clarification.The +1 chip on single,dual or triple cycle attack when we have -10 loss adds up?Exmaple:
100 chips
next cycle
88 chips (-12 so we raise +1)
next cycle
66 chips (-22,so now we raise only +1 for the 88-66 loss or +2 for the 100-66 loss and 88-66 loss?)
--On any lose over 10 ch.rise 1 ch.......but on winnings is only my suggestion how to pla
/it is how I presently play by head,no spreadsheet/--and am waiting for any other suggestion
that may arise regarding this matter...think that Ophis will have some suugestion also.
As when you play this without bot you have control of what is happening as chips are in front
of you and you see what's going on...any suggestions from you xxlakis.
I think the bot/tracker if it ever gets created should by default play exactley the way vile lade out in his spreadsheets, that's the only way to prove that viles system works long term as per his inctructions, anyother progressions should be options for the user to select if they wish to use them.
Thanks
malcop
Hi have played this system for two sessions.
I think a big bank roll is required. First session was a bit up and down but finished up after 1.5 hours at about 12 units. The second seession which was also for about 1.5 hours i finished 18 units up but i had been down almost 500 units. But at least it recovered.
The bet where we bet on 8 sectors which then gives us the 4 sectors to bet on, do we really need to do this? I lost 3 in a row. We are betting a lot of chips to win so few. I think it would be better to take the free spin and you will have the result to bet on your 4 sectors. What do you guys think or do?
Hope this does not sound too newbie :)
Cheeers.
Quote from: Shogun on Jul 07, 06:36 AM 2012
Hi have played this system for two sessions.
I think a big bankroll is required. First session was a bit up and down but finished up after 1.5 hours at about 12 units. The second seession which was also for about 1.5 hours i finished 18 units up but i had been down almost 500 units. But at least it recovered.
The bet where we bet on 8 sectors which then gives us the 4 sectors to bet on, do we really need to do this? I lost 3 in a row. We are betting a lot of chips to win so few. I think it would be better to take the free spin and you will have the result to bet on your 4 sectors. What do you guys think or do?
Hope this does not sound too newbie :)
Cheeers.
Not at all. I would do it virtually. Nobody wins in roulette risking 8u 2 win 1u. Ok its still a qualifying sort of bet but in my opinion not necessary. And 2 recover losses when 0 or middle sector hits? I think that PCWB would be a better bet without it but what do i know?
Shogun and Rob,
You both are right.Testing it individually 8 sectors against mid sector in the rolling
way,over 30000 spins,8 sectors come out as a winner,therefore why I put this
as a opening bet instead of virtual.Last night in casino was doing well,222 ch.plus,
and 33/sectoe 9 was 5th.sector/......first bet 33,second 33,third 30,4th 30,5th 36,
6th.33.......lost all that was winning plus 90 chips.......that's why my new name 33,
and when I come home this morning lost myself on the forum also...therefore is 33.
We must here go on 4 last,when lose switch to 5 furthest.Vile---now 33....
gee wish it was true........LoL
Vile...
i think there is small problem with those Excel sheets that you have provided.
Quote
a) START BETTING AFTER ALL 9 SECTORS HIT
in both of them you are starting betting before all 9 sectors have hit.
Quote
26
35
9
35
15
1
21
25
4
16
19
16
12
33
15
-- -- --
18
11 trigger
where is sector 5? (14/17,20/23)
maybe this isint a big mistake... but i would like to have some correct spread sheet if possible so i can replicate it with tracker.
are you also starting betting when there is 8 sectors? is this allowed?
I tried to read the sheet, too.
If'n I were king, there would be a format for listing bets?
Number that came---------->what action did you perform-------number that came after your action----------Result of your action.
Example:
14...............bet red..............35...........lost
35........this number is the new number that came.
Sam
Aw, shucks!! I'll never get to be king. ???
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jul 07, 11:54 AM 2012
I tried to read the sheet, too.
The sheet by itself is readable. Dont see a problem here in that matter.
...just this 1st trigger is somehow different from official rules.
that's what i ask in post nr. 7...but vile hasn't replied yet...maybe he can clarify
Ophis
Readable and hard to read are two different things.
Oh, well........
TCS
What happen with this system?
Quote from: donik7777 on Jul 08, 09:43 PM 2012
What happen with this system?
Nothing much really except we are excluding first bet/read my unswer on replay119/and that am now 33 instead of Vile.And here is new attach.of how to play...waiting for Ophis blessing.
Quote from: donik7777 on Jul 08, 09:43 PM 2012
What happen with this system?
sadly it loses many times at airball roulette... :'(
busted after about 60 spins again...
Hi RFMAXX,
Can i ask what bank did you use (units)?
Were you playing recent 4 furthest 5 as in post 119 by vile/33?
How many winning sessions have you had?
Cheers.
there have been some modifications to this system.
when finally bot will be ready it will include new ways of playing it.
Quote from: Shogun on Jul 10, 12:02 PM 2012
Hi RFMAXX,
Can i ask what bank did you use (units)?
Were you playing recent 4 furthest 5 as in post 119 by vile/33?
How many winning sessions have you had?
Cheers.
This bet requires huge BR. Dont try it without 1000u BR. I would do away with qualifying bet because of payout ratio. But i guess Vile/Flat has different ideas. Main part is almost like EC bet with 5/4 payout ratio which is good but you need to be able to handle a pressure when you are down few hundreds of units which can happen in a hurry.
Quote from: Shogun on Jul 10, 12:02 PM 2012
Hi RFMAXX,
Can i ask what bank did you use (units)?
Were you playing recent 4 furthest 5 as in post 119 by vile/33?
How many winning sessions have you had?
Cheers.
look here...the excel sheet shows you the result...played 5/5 mod with a br of 1000
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9821.msg85580#msg85580 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9821.msg85580#msg85580)
Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jul 10, 12:26 PM 2012
This bet requires huge BR. don't try it without 1000u BR. I would do away with qualifying bet because of payout ratio. But i guess Vile/Flat has different ideas. Main part is almost like EC bet with 5/4 payout ratio which is good but you need to be able to handle a pressure when you are down few hundreds of units which can happen in a hurry.
Hi Robeenhuut,
Vile is now 33 i think, see post 119. He agrees with you about the qualifying bet. Also see Flats 2 uncles post.
Cheers.
Quote from: RFMAXX on Jul 10, 12:28 PM 2012
look here...the excel sheet shows you the result...played 5/5 mod with a br of 1000
link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9821.msg85580#msg85580 (link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9821.msg85580#msg85580)
Thanks RFMAXX,
Just saw the other thread and your results after i posted.
Cheers.
Quote from: ophis on Jul 10, 12:19 PM 2012
there have been some modifications to this system.
when finally bot will be ready it will include new ways of playing it.
Ophis, do you are referring to
"TWO DIFFERENT TABLES ON BOTH Uncles WON - and still winning" from F_LAT_INO?
It is advanced the bot? :thumbsup:
Quote from: jarabo002 on Jul 10, 01:50 PM 2012
Ophis, do you are referring to
"TWO DIFFERENT TABLES ON BOTH Uncles WON - and still winning" from F_LAT_INO?
Yes
It was Vile,swap into 33 when it kill me in casino/9th sector 6/7 times didn't hit/so excluded that bet,
couldn't find Vile on the forum back from casino/how could I AFTER THAT SESSION/then lost 33,so had to find F_LAT_INO somewhere among that crowd.Two uncles did 6/7 session and all won.
1000 chips/not units/quite enough to take 100-200 daily..No risk at all.Trends on sectors.
@ophis
I want to contribute 10euros for the bot also :). Is this money sufficient? I think we are many members now who wanna contribute to your efforts.
Any estimated ETA? Will it become public or private?
PM me with the payment options, moneybookers/paypal etc.
PS:I like your programs and bots, keep up the nice work.