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Started by ignatus, Sep 03, 01:32 AM 2014

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RouletteGhost

he takes time to test new ideas and make graphs

probably jealousy
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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nowun

Quote from: Steve on Sep 03, 07:08 PM 2014
Nowun, exactly what do you mean by this? As far as I can tell, Ignatus is an active contributor and doesnt cause any trouble. Perhaps I dont understand the situation here, but it seems from nowhere you had a go at him. Exactly why? Do you have a problem with him?

I have no problem with Ignatus or anyone else, I have in the past tested and posted my results of tests of ideas Ignatus has posted. 

The exchange was just my LOL moment for today and I stated exactly that.  I laughed out load at Ignatus acting ignorant of what nottophammer meant when he must know exactly what he meant.
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Steve

From what I gather, your LOL was because you feel ignatus posts lots of methods that are no different than other losing approaches. Whether or not thats the case, he is still contributing actively and instead of criticizing people, it is more constructive and friendlier to explain WHY a particular approach wont work. The page at link:://:.roulettephysics.com/how-to-win-at-roulette/ may help. I've said it all before anyway. The main part is:

QuoteApproaches that DON'T work:

Save yourself some time and understand why most systems lose:

* Betting progression: most gamblers believe that if you bet higher to cover losses, that you'll eventually win and your bankroll will increase. But roulette doesn't work this way. When you increase bet size, all you do is increase the amount you risk on that individual spin. Remember that the wheel has no memory. It doesn't know or care if there were 10 reds in a row. And even after 10 reds, the odds or red or black spinning next haven't changed. So changing bet size wont help at all (unless you actually have a method to increase the accuracy of predictions).

* Thinking something is "due": as explained above, even after 10 or so reds, the odds of red or black spinning next do not change at all. Nothing is ever "due" to happen. The ball lands where it does only from cause and effect. That's real physical variables only.

* Systems that work well on a set sample of spins, but not new spins: Every set of previous spins will appear to have mysterious coincidences and patterns that aren't really patterns at all. In fact you can put it down to simple statistics in the sense that certain sequences of spins will inevitably occur over time. It doesn't at all mean they will occur again over new spins in the near future.

Players that have no understanding of these concepts will forever create the same systems again and again, but just repackaged a different way. And many players waste years of their life before they understand why they've been losing. Almost every professional gambler was once at this stage - even myself. And now we ask ourselves how we couldn't see plain logic before.

This is not necesarily directed at Ignatus. I really know nothing about his systems as I havent looked into them. It applies to anyone who has a losing system.

Another page to consider explains how to properly test a system:
link:://:.roulettephysics.com/testing/

Who wants to save time? Who wants to go around in circles? You know anyone can save a lot of time and save themselves 10 years of their life, if they understand what other people have learned, AND understand why things are as they are. Again it has all been said before. Most people brush over it and think "yeah but I'm looking for a simpler way".... while in complete denial about plain facts. 1 + 1 will never = 3. We always use that example. It means reality wont change.

It will always be the case that the only eway to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions. How? Well, why does the ball land where it does?.. Cause and effect. And how do we study this?.. Physics. That's why it's :.roulettephysics.com

In my opinion physics and precognition are the only ways to beat roulette. Physics is something for sure that works. I believe we all have latent ability for precognition. Some of you may recall I did the majority vote precogniton tests a while back with good results. But it is very difficult to do a significant number of tests. There were lots of people who contributed and we'll do it again one day, but I need have created particular software to make larger scale more viable.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Steve

Another important consideration is the house edge. For the European wheel, it is -2.7%. A simple explanation is if you bet on one number, you can expect to win 1 in 37 spins. When you win, you are paid 35 chips plus your original bet. So after 37 spins, on average you'll be left with 36 chips. If everything was fair and the house edge didn't exist, you should have 37 chips after the 37 spins. To make this even simpler to understand, even when you win, you still actually lose because you are paid an UNFAIR amount. The effect of this is you slowly drain your bankroll. The only way to overcome this is by winning more times than statistically expected. In this case, winning more than 1 in 37 times.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

ignatus

Quote from: MrJ on Sep 03, 12:22 PM 2014
Question for you (not insulting you)........ of the 427 methods you have posted, are any of them FLAT betting only? Not counting up or down units.

Ken

Mr.J, thanks for the inspiration. to answer your question yes now i have: link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14686.msg124177#msg124177

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nottophammer

Quote from: nowun on Sep 03, 10:14 PM 2014
I have no problem with Ignatus or anyone else, I have in the past tested and posted my results of tests of ideas Ignatus has posted. 

The exchange was just my LOL moment for today and I stated exactly that.  I laughed out load at Ignatus acting ignorant of what nottophammer meant when he must know exactly what he meant.

nowun got the little tongue in cheek joke. Hope the dust can settle
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