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Let s see if some members can help the others to get out of the dark

Started by RouletteExplorer, Sep 25, 11:35 AM 2011

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RouletteExplorer

The dark is leaving slowly.....
Will you come to the light with us iggiv? :)
What we need is new thinking...

iggiv

Quote from: pratikpop on Sep 25, 01:12 PM 2011
iggiv i don't think hit and run would benefit..i agree with bayes..playing 300 spins in one day or 30 spins in 10 days is the same..losing streaks are bound to come...that's i recommend a big BR with lowest initial bet :)
well that's my opinioun..no offences to anyone

basically there is more stuff than just hit-n-run.
but anyway most of  professional system players would agree that such regular long sessions are not a smart way to play. let's say that in certain period of time u have 5 winning streaks, 5 losing streaks, and 1 very bad losing streak which is gonna kill u. they don't happen all the time. so let's say u came in the middle of this period of time and played a short session. u got most likely either
winning or slightly losing streak. u left a table with a slight win or slight loss. but if u played all this period of time u got this losing streak and u r done.

so finally yes, u will encounter a bad losing streak no doubts about it. but if play shorter sessions with some other rules included in your play u don't encounter those losing streaks as frequently as with this 300 spin plays. it does not mean that u will stay a winner in a long run. but it does mean that most likely u will lose significally less

i hope i made myself clear. and i want to bail out of this subject, thanx. wishing all the best to u guys

RouletteExplorer

but if play shorter sessions with some other rules included in your play u don't encounter those losing streaks as frequently as with this 300 spin plays. it does not mean that u will stay a winner in a long run. but it does mean that most likely u will lose significally less

Its the same
What we need is new thinking...

iggiv

Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Sep 25, 01:19 PM 2011
The dark is leaving slowly.....
Will you come to the light with us iggiv? :)

thanx god we are not in the dark ages anymore. or u would of course have burned me on the stake as heretic which does not accept light but rather deals with dark. only the holy fire would have to  clean my soul. and i do admit that this kind of threat would make me accept your holy light
;D

RouletteExplorer

iggiv

It isn t funny....
Its important for a Mod not to be in the dark about the subject of the forum that he moderates....
And that s why "speed" got upset....because you are not just a newby member...but a DODERATOR.
What we need is new thinking...

Bayes

I feel the same way about stop losses and win targets too. It comes down to knowing WHEN to implement them. Say you set your stop loss at -100 units, the next 10 or 20 spins after you quit might well have produced the winners you needed to recover. Or suppose you set your win target and 10 units. Some sessions might take you 100 or 200 spins to achieve it, and other times you might never get into the black - you hit your stop loss before it happens.

It's true that each bet selection will generate the same results and in that sense no particular bet selection is better than any other, but if you have multiple bet selections and switch from one to another based on the statistics which are common to all of them, this reduces the variance. "Don't put all your eggs in one basket". There is mathematical proof that this reduces the variance. You could argue that this method of choosing your bets is itself a bet selection and should be no better than any other, so it might seem as though I'm being inconsistent. I have to concede that this would be a fair comment, but all I can say is, give it a try. You might think that doing this is subject to the same weakness as stop losses and win targets; ie - how do you know WHEN to switch from one to the other?. My results show that it doesn't much matter, just so long as you keep switching. The probability of hitting a bad deviation is less when you are using multiple bet selections because it depends on you repeatedly choosing each BS at the moment it enters the sequence from hell (and the sequence from hell is relatively rare even for one bet selection). But don't take my word for it, try it and see.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

iggiv

Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Sep 25, 01:34 PM 2011
iggiv

It isn t funny....
Its important for a Mod not to be in the dark about the subject of the forum that he moderates....
And that s why "speed" got upset....because you are not just a newby member...but a DODERATOR.

bud don't try to push too hard. mod or not we all entitled to our opinions, and u or Speed or anybody else has to accept this fact.

being a mod does not have to do anything with your opinon on roulette. i can practice a voodoo trying to defeat roulette and still be a mod. i have RIGHT. as You have rights. so don't try to make it look like i have less rights than u because i am mod. some people just think it. if u r mod You have
to bow before other opinions and admit that they are right, otherwise being against means you
use your power to go against holy light.
no holy lights here. don't' push anyone into your believes be it religion or math or nature or space or helicopter flying. REmember ANYONE IS ENTITLED TO HIS/HER OPINION as long as his opion is not of a kind of personal insult to others.
i am not insulting anyone with my believes about roulette, so i am entitled to it be mod or bot.
OK? accept it and live with it! i am a free man in a free world just like u!

RouletteExplorer

It's true that each bet selection will generate the same results and in that sense no particular bet selection is better than any other, but if you have multiple bet selections and switch from one to another based on the statistics which are common to all of them, this reduces the variance. "Don't put all your eggs in one basket".

I agree with ya Bias and this is what my systems want to have inside ;)
What we need is new thinking...

RouletteExplorer

iggiv

don't't to push anyone into your believes

This is what you fail to understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are NOT my believes ! Its the ABSOLUT MATHS !!!! In Maths there are NO believes!

Maths aren t like if i like this girl u have to like it too !!!!
Maths are ABSOLUT....when will u understand this....Roulette is nothing else than maths....
What we need is new thinking...

iggiv

OK u convinced me.

i was wrong. i don't wanna be burned on the stake.
hit and run doesn't help, stop losses do not help, and win goal doesn't help.
what does help in roulette is exceptional knowledge of trigonometry, algebra,
integrals and of course probability laws. when  u know that well,
u don't need stop loss or win goal or bankroll or hit-n-run


byyyyyyeeeeeee

RouletteExplorer

hit and run doesn't help, stop losses do not help, and win goal doesn't help.

well done you have just been developed into the nest level.....its the level where you left the Gambling Fallacy behind.
What we need is new thinking...

Chrisbis

So, lets ask a question of our expert Host here.

U get to your game, and U see this on the Marquee.......[attachimg=1]

What do U do?

Play for the Obvious colour that's missing, or Look for something else? HUH?
Roulette..........................
Physical in Nature, Random in Opportunity                                                    The Reveal Originator!

MrJ

Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Sep 25, 01:48 PM 2011
iggiv

don't't to push anyone into your believes

This is what you fail to understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are NOT my believes ! Its the ABSOLUT MATHS !!!! In Maths there are NO believes!

Maths aren t like if i like this girl You have to like it too !!!!
Maths are ABSOLUT....when will u understand this....Roulette is nothing else than maths....


The problem I have with this post, you can not be talking/posting regarding methods AND at the same time, preach about math. F**k math, I do just fine at this game (and playing 00) and I could careless......WHAT'S SUPPOSE TO HAPPEN.  :-[  Means nothing to me.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

iggiv

that's what i find real weird. talking about unbeatable game then trying hard to beat it accepting the fact that You can't. Well, i got no problem with that. as Ch.arles  Bronson said in one of  his movies:
in this world there are lots of people with weird ideas.

MrJ

True, you cant have BOTH.

A) Roulette is not beatable because of the math

AND

B) Posting methods.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

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