KTF's cousin named WTF (if everyone agrees)

[nottophammer]

todays #'s

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14 20
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[Celticknits]

todays #'s

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-Notto

Thank you.
Are you still getting the first 10 numbers from a seperate source?

-Celtic

[curiosone]

-Curiosone

The trigger I used with my online RNG account was to wait until the next repeat hit and if there were more than 2 additional unhit #s I would add them in. This is not a rule just something that I came up with, that worked for me, while playing on my online casino.
I did not have the account that long because of the number of times I used to see these strange strings of numbers that I felt were being manipulated.   I have seen strange things playing airball live but nothing like I saw with the online RNG. This and the fact I felt like I was playing  a Playstation game made me decide to close out the account and see how fast I would be paid off. At least there were no issues with that.

I think that when you play the SAME RNG time and time again you get a feel for it but if, when I am playing, something does not feel right I will look for the first best exit point. That is the reson I said that I would quit as soon as I got into profit even before I got those additional numbers from random.org

I still think you would be best to play KTF for now and keep working on betting repeats.
There a lot of decisions that only you can make when playing the repeats.
DO NOT play repeats until you are happy with your understanding of it.
Hey you have all sorts of ways of checking your thinking out before playing with real money.

I was lucky because I was playing KTF, studying Nottos averages sheets, LOTT, and Winkels GUT strategy.
If you read ALL of the KTF thread you will see that the main reason I started to play repeats was the large drawdowns sometimes to make $30-$40 Profit that I was not happy with.

Understanding betting repeats is not easy but if you stick with it the light will come on at some point.
This is still the only strategy that I play on roulette.

I hope this helps.

-Celtic

Thank you for the advice Celtic,i will practice a lot an read the threads..hope i good result


Good day

[Celticknits]

Thank you for the advice Celtic,i will practice a lot an read the threads..hope i good result


Good day

-Curiosone

Thank you and Good Luck

-Celtic

[nottophammer]

-Notto

Thank you.
Are you still getting the first 10 numbers from a seperate source?

-Celtic

The numbers are always Jackpot247.com, we have to keep true to the start or we'll be accused of fabricating the games

[777]

Can we trust RNG? I played Denzie´s strategy on NetEnt RNG and was up 5 BR, was about to write about the good news. just had to finish 2 more on my Notto sheet, then got 3 busts in a row. had a brake for 8 hours then got another bust(800u)... felt like it was the computer taking back what it had given me. just like the slots.

I have never been a fan of RNG always played live dealer or real casino. but how do we know that RNG software is random? isnt it like saying slots are random? but we all know that by playing slots we have to loose in the long run. in Roulette we could win every spin if we manage to guess the right outcome.

Please convince me  :-)

[Celticknits]

The numbers are always Jackpot247.com, we have to keep true to the start or we'll be accused of fabricating the games

-Notto

I hear you

Won easily on both KTF and Repeats

-Celtic

[Celticknits]

Can we trust RNG? I played Denzie´s strategy on NetEnt RNG and was up 5 BR, was about to write about the good news. just had to finish 2 more on my Notto sheet, then got 3 busts in a row. had a brake for 8 hours then got another bust(800u)... felt like it was the computer taking back what it had given me. just like the slots.

I have never been a fan of RNG always played live dealer or real casino. but how do we know that RNG software is random? isnt it like saying slots are random? but we all know that by playing slots we have to loose in the long run. in Roulette we could win every spin if we manage to guess the right outcome.

Please convince me  :-)

-777

Can you please post the numbers?

-Celtic

[777]

Sure Celtic

RNG played the with no hits on spin #21-22-23

36
25
2
31
25
7
18
28
15
22

18
15
1
16
28
29
12
2
8
35

0
17
27
24---start here because no r in spin 21-22-23
14
14
5
3
0
3
2
6
14
10

6
9
19
13
17
21
33
4
20
34


What do you prefer Celtic? RNG or Live dealer?

[denzie]

Can we trust RNG? I played Denzie´s strategy on NetEnt RNG and was up 5 BR, was about to write about the good news. just had to finish 2 more on my Notto sheet, then got 3 busts in a row. had a brake for 8 hours then got another bust(800u)... felt like it was the computer taking back what it had given me. just like the slots.

Hmm that's strange.  I've noticed that with another member that this happens. When a bust comes they never come alone.... so you had 4 busts in a row ? Something smells fishy.... would they program it to take it back ? Or would they program some patterns ? Maybe the experienced rng players know this.....

[denzie]

What I did noticed b4 is that the rng gives some patterns. Ok live wheels do too but it's bit stronger on rng. I use to play lankys matrix. And I've noticed after playing few 100k spins that there is a period with wins and losses. Once I've noticed that I waited till the shit period passed. And then I would go in flatbet. That did the job.

Same with betting an ec .... for example on NetEnt you can see the % of them. After clicking days and days you see the minimum and maximum %. And of course the average. Once you know that.....go in flatbet. But this probably happens on a real wheel too. Only there the waiting would be huge.

Some rng experts can help ?

[Celticknits]

Sure Celtic

RNG played the with no hits on spin #21-22-23

36
25
2
31
25
7
18
28
15
22

18
15
1
16
28
29
12
2
8
35

0
17
27
24---start here because no r in spin 21-22-23
14
14
5
3
0
3
2
6
14
10

6
9
19
13
17
21
33
4
20
34


What do you prefer Celtic? RNG or Live dealer?

-777

I prefer live Airball because and the B&M casino is only a few minutes from my house.
Live dealers are about 2 hours up the road.

HERE IS THE SOLUTION TO YOUR SESSION:

Same parameters I always use:
$800 BR, No Triples, +1/-1 Progression based on the count and total to date, $80-$100 Stop/Win, stay within 37-38 spin cycle
ALL DECISIONS ARE MADE BASED ON THE COUNT, NOTTOS AVERAGES SHEET(S), LOTT..............

Referring to the payout sheet, listed below, the first thing you will notice is the Reset at spin 10. What you do not see is that there were two previous resets before I got to that point. Why - I did not like the count so I just reset the whole session.

After spin 24 I have had 15 Unhit numbers in a row so I start to bet for repeats on all the unhit numbers.

After spin 29 I have a good count of 8 +3
I do a countback, as explained in previous posts, to add in the two additional unhit numbers and adjust the bet accordingly.

After spin 30 I am at a new high but will not reset the progression because I still have 75% of my repeats due before the end of the cycle in 16 spins. Again this is not a rule change but rather a decision, based on the count and averages in this case.

Spin 31 wins and puts us at a new total high so now I would reduce the progression back to 1  BUT 
After spin #31 we  have now reached our Win/Stop so QUIT!!!!!

I hope this has helped you.

-Celtic

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777 RNG 15APR16
(Betting Repeats with Nottos Avg, LOTT and Winkels GUT)
S  # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1   36
2 25
3 2
4 31
5 25
6 7
7 18
8 28
9 15
10 22 Reset
11 18
12 15
13 1
14 16
15 28
16 29
17 12
18 2
19 8 10/10
20 35
21 0 x
22 17
23 27
24 24 +5 Repeat count - Start betting all unhits for Repeats
25 14 X 15 1 15 -15 -15
26 14 R 15 2 30 -30 -45
27 5 15 3 45 -45 -90
28 3 15 4 60 -60 -150
29 0 R 15 5 75 180 105 -45
30 3 R 16 4 64 144 80 35
31 2 R 15 3 45 108 63 98   ---   QUIT ---
32 6 14 1 14 -14 84
33 14 14 2 28 -28 56
34 10 14 3 42 -42 14
35 6 R 14 4 56 144 88 102
36 9 13 1 13 -13 89
37 19 13 2 26 -26 63
38 13 13 3 39 -39 24
39 17 R 13 4 52 144 92 116


[nottophammer]

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1 31
2 0
3 4
4 28
5 12
6 5
7 35
8 4
9 7
10 13
11 25
12 3
13 9
14 9
15 5
16 14
17 2
18 15
19 35
20 8
21 12
22 3
23 30
24 34
25 7
26 1
27 35
28 20
29 0
30 31
31 16
32 9
33 24
34 23
35 5
36 25
37 0
38 19
39 23
40 15
41 26
42 6
43 36
44 33
45 21
46 1
47 19
48 28
49 5
50 0
51 31
52 1
53 2
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[Celticknits]

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jackpot247 16.4.16
1 31
2 0
3 4
4 28
5 12
6 5
7 35
8 4
9 7
10 13
11 25
12 3
13 9
14 9
15 5
16 14
17 2
18 15
19 35
20 8
21 12
22 3
23 30
24 34
25 7
26 1
27 35
28 20
29 0
30 31
31 16
32 9
33 24
34 23
35 5
36 25
37 0
38 19
39 23
40 15
41 26
42 6
43 36
44 33
45 21
46 1
47 19
48 28
49 5
50 0
51 31
52 1
53 2
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-Notto

Thank You for the numbers.

Here is a payout sheet betting repeats for anybody interested.

-Celtic

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JACKPOT 247   16APR16
(Bet Repeats Using the Count, Notto's Avg Sheet(s), and LOTT)
S # R Bet P Stake Won Net Total
1 31
2 0
3 4
4 28
5 12
6 5
7 35
8 4 R
9 7
10 13 9/10
11 25
12 3
13 9
14 9 R
15 5 R
16 14
17 2 +3
18 15 11 1 11 -11 -11
19 35 R 11 2 22 72 50 39
20 8 10 1 10 -10 29
21 12 R NO-BET - Waiting for next Repeat or 2 Unhits after spin 20
22 3 R 9 2 18 72 54 83   ---   Win/Stop reached so QUIT!!!
23 30 8 1 8 -8 75
24 34 8 2 16 -16 59
25 7 R 8 3 24 108 84 143
26 1 7 1 7 -7 136
27 35 R 7 2 14 -14 122
28 20 6 3 18 -18 104
29 0 R 6 4 24 144 120 224
30 31 5 1 5 -5 219
31 16
32 9 R
33 24
34 23
35 5 R
36 25 R
37 0 R


[The General]

24 pages...and you're testing what can be easily proven to fail with just some simple arithmetic.

Wake up guys.  Turn on the light.