Some ideas on table layout betting. (Subject modified)

[falkor]

I might have to redo these tests actually because I've made one mistake: I've put too much criteria on the results to be Open = 3, but should remove that condition altogether because the first DS can close with 3,4,5 or 6 open.

I'm changing the test criteria to include hits from Closes or Repeats, and I'm going to try to run multiple tests at once so we can get the results quicker.

[SamNL]

Could someone please make a tracker for this?

I'm with Proof on this 

[RFMAXX]

I'm with Proof on this 

orochi announced a tracker...how is it going?

[Chris555p]

Agreed, I'm with Proof as well on this.

[falkor]

What would you guys expect from a tracker?

Got all these lined up in one go for repeat or close - we just need to know which open DS is most likely to hit or whether an unopened one will open and then hit before any of the open:

#TEST 1A

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12: N

#13-18:

#19-24:

#25-30: N

#31-36: N



#TEST 1B

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12: N

#13-18: N

#19-24:

#25-30: N

#31-36:


#TEST 1C

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12:

#13-18: N

#19-24:

#25-30: N

#31-36: N


#TEST 1D

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6:

#7-12: N

#13-18: N

#19-24: N

#25-30: N

#31-36:


#TEST 1E

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12:

#13-18: N

#19-24: N

#25-30:

#31-36: N


#TEST 1F

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12: N

#13-18:

#19-24: N

#25-30:

#31-36: N


#TEST 1G

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12: N

#13-18: N

#19-24:

#25-30:

#31-36: N


#TEST 1H

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12:

#13-18:

#19-24: N

#25-30: N

#31-36: N


#TEST 1I

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6:

#7-12: N

#13-18:

#19-24: N

#25-30: N

#31-36: N


#TEST 1J

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6:

#7-12:

#13-18: N

#19-24: N

#25-30: N

#31-36: N


#TEST 1K

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12: N

#13-18: N

#19-24: N

#25-30:

#31-36:


#TEST 1L

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12:

#13-18: N

#19-24: N

#25-30: N

#31-36:


#TEST 1M

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6:

#7-12: N

#13-18: N

#19-24: N

#25-30:

#31-36: N

[buju]

WOW, falkor & Worrier

after years absence from here &  VLS, i came here this morning to this forum and i stumbled this HOT tread...

I read it for 2-3 hours and tried to find out what is all about, after 3 hours i came up one method which i have just finished testing it for 378 spins

Total Spin - 378
Total Bet Placed - 148 Times
Highest Unit Placed - 9 Units

Lowest Lost - 22 Units
Won - 122 Units

Profit - 122 Units.

i have played roulette for 6 years and i know 99% of the method and tried most of them.... this is different but what i know from this test is only random beats random.... no pattern, bla bla...

Let me test it for 3000 spin now and i will get back to you.


I AM SURE YOU CAN COME UP MANY BETTING METHODS FROM THIS WORRIER'S & OFCORSE FALKER'S TIPS!

[sean43]

I think I get it falkor, you are going to run the tests to determine the stats behind each scenario and then we can create a bet around each one..

Exciting times here, on the cusp.

[RouletteGhost]

buju maybe you can be so kind to post how you played, your version.

i dont undertsand what anyone is saying here and falkor is being confusing. i blame myself for not understanding but can you be so kind

[buju]

RouletteGhost - forget about how me, worrier or falker betting this system... dont try to find out how worrier bet, or his progression... TRY TO UNDERSTAND and concentrate on the situation when OPENING & CLOSING DS occurs...

that is what i did... you will come up something...

i am on my second test, i am on 143 spins and i am happy with it so far...

[falkor]

It's too complex to learn in 3 hours or learn and properly test in 1 day. You would have to know exactly when to change between flat-betting and several types of progressions. You have to learn each DS vs. each spin number. You can't program the system to do that in 1 day. This will take me a few more weeks to finish. However, you can tell from the longest losing streaks that this system can't lose + we have the power to predict the length of a losing streak quite accurately. buju, I appreciate you would like the casinos to stay in business, but their time has come!

[buju]

falker, i don't know but in my method everything is going very well, another 311 spin test i just did and got 101 units profit.

i know for sure mathematics cannot beat randoms... no matter what! i learn that in hardway. ALSO got that from my maths professor 5 years ago. It is LAW!

in this worrier tips... you can see the random in 2-14 spins... so i realized that you can beat it by placing the chip against that stupid random out come... i dont know how to explain it... you can beat it in (2-12 spins)...

let me do another test...

[SamNL]

buju, I appreciate you would like the casinos to stay in business, but their time has come!

I'm with Falkor,

Let's put the casinos out of business

Falkor, I have to say,

You are doing an amazing job with these tests.

Also a very very very big thank you to Warrior for his idea.

[falkor]

What would you guys expect from a tracker?

Got all these lined up in one go for repeat or close - we just need to know which open DS is most likely to hit or whether an unopened one will open and then hit before any of the open:

#TEST 1A

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12: N

#13-18:

#19-24:

#25-30: N

#31-36: N



#TEST 1B

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12: N

#13-18: N

#19-24:

#25-30: N

#31-36:


#TEST 1C

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12:

#13-18: N

#19-24:

#25-30: N

#31-36: N


#TEST 1D

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6:

#7-12: N

#13-18: N

#19-24: N

#25-30: N

#31-36:


#TEST 1E

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12:

#13-18: N

#19-24: N

#25-30:

#31-36: N


#TEST 1F

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12: N

#13-18:

#19-24: N

#25-30:

#31-36: N


#TEST 1G

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12: N

#13-18: N

#19-24:

#25-30:

#31-36: N


#TEST 1H

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12:

#13-18:

#19-24: N

#25-30: N

#31-36: N


#TEST 1I

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6:

#7-12: N

#13-18:

#19-24: N

#25-30: N

#31-36: N


#TEST 1J

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6:

#7-12:

#13-18: N

#19-24: N

#25-30: N

#31-36: N


#TEST 1K

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12: N

#13-18: N

#19-24: N

#25-30:

#31-36:


#TEST 1L

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6: N

#7-12:

#13-18: N

#19-24: N

#25-30: N

#31-36:


#TEST 1M

#Open = 4
#Closed = 0
#Repeats = 0

#1-6:

#7-12: N

#13-18: N

#19-24: N

#25-30:

#31-36: N

I left the computer running, but it seems to have only got a 3rd of the way through... here's what it's saying after 22K sets: (think we need more data so I will run on my MacBook pro)

TEST A

1-6: 18.005540166205%

7-12: 19.2520775623269%

13-18: 14.404432132964%

19-24: 14.6814404432133%

25-30: 15.6509695290859%

31-36: 18.005540166205%


TEST B

1-6: 18.3962264150943%

7-12: 20.440251572327%

13-18: 16.3522012578616%

19-24: 13.0503144654088%

25-30: 19.3396226415094%

31-36: 12.4213836477987%


TEST C

1-6: 18.9189189189189%

7-12: 13.6636636636637%

13-18: 19.8198198198198%

19-24: 11.5615615615616%

25-30: 18.9189189189189%

31-36: 17.1171171171171%


TEST D

1-6: 13.2547864506627%

7-12: 18.7039764359352%

13-18: 19.2930780559647%

19-24: 20.3240058910162%

25-30: 15.9057437407953%

31-36: 12.5184094256259%


TEST E

1-6: 17.4556213017752%

7-12: 12.5739644970414%

13-18: 20.5621301775148%

19-24: 19.0828402366864%

25-30: 13.7573964497041%

31-36: 16.5680473372781%


TEST F

1-6: 17.2701949860724%

7-12: 19.4986072423398%

13-18: 12.9526462395543%

19-24: 18.3844011142061%

25-30: 13.2311977715877%

31-36: 18.6629526462396%


TEST G

1-6: 17.4506828528073%

7-12: 18.0576631259484%

13-18: 16.3884673748103%

19-24: 13.9605462822458%

25-30: 15.4779969650986%

31-36: 18.6646433990895%


TEST H

1-6: 18.5078909612626%

7-12: 14.3472022955524%

13-18: 13.4863701578192%

19-24: 18.5078909612626%

25-30: 19.0817790530846%

31-36: 16.0688665710186%


TEST I

1-6: 11.3782051282051%

7-12: 19.0705128205128%

13-18: 13.1410256410256%

19-24: 17.3076923076923%

25-30: 20.1923076923077%

31-36: 18.9102564102564%


TEST J

1-6: 12.9707112970711%

7-12: 13.3891213389121%

13-18: 17.9916317991632%

19-24: 17.9916317991632%

25-30: 18.8284518828452%

31-36: 18.8284518828452%


TEST K

1-6: 19.9722607489598%

7-12: 15.5339805825243%

13-18: 16.6435506241331%

19-24: 16.0887656033287%

25-30: 15.8113730929265%

31-36: 15.9500693481276%


TEST L

1-6: 20.52067381317%

7-12: 13.9356814701378%

13-18: 18.8361408882083%

19-24: 15.9264931087289%

25-30: 18.0704441041348%

31-36: 12.7105666156202%


TEST M

1-6: 13.5725429017161%

7-12: 20.4368174726989%

13-18: 18.2527301092044%

19-24: 16.5366614664587%

25-30: 12.4804992199688%

31-36: 18.7207488299532%

[vladir]

Dont take me wrong, I appreciate you sharing your tests, but isnt it irrelevant wich 4 ds  combibation it is? The proba ility is the same for all 4ds on  the same conditions... 

Now, if you add repeaters to them, thats can be a different scenario worth to test...

[falkor]

Dont take me wrong, I appreciate you sharing your tests, but isnt it irrelevant wich 4 ds  combibation it is? The proba ility is the same for all 4ds on  the same conditions... 

Now, if you add repeaters to them, thats can be a different scenario worth to test...

The repeaters are coming up next test series... I hope to start that before bedtime!