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Title: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Hermes on Nov 02, 08:16 PM 2010
This is my new system on double streets and spins/time combination. It works promising in testings.
Always bet 6 spins as separate session with firm combination of DS.
1st spin  1/6 DS
2nd spin 2/5 DS
3rd spin  3/4 DS
4th spin  4/3 DS
5th spin  5/2 DS
6th spin  6/1 DS with progression 1-1-2-3-4-4 and if losing continue the next 6 spins with 4 units until in TOTAL PLUS (Leveller)
Cheers Hermes
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: albertojonas on Nov 02, 11:07 PM 2010
It is a bit of a grinder, but I feel it can deliver.
at this first test it crashed.
am I doing it wright'? >:(


what is the stop-loss?

what is the winning target?

what to do when zero strikes?
i restarted counting when it came while waiting 6 spins prior to betting phase.

Cheers,
AL
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Droganson on Nov 03, 01:50 AM 2010
Hi, albertojonas.  I looked over your test session and noticed under your bets you only had ONE DS instead of the two that Hermes provided.  You are to bet 2 DSes side by side with each spin and go up the progression as you lose if you lose.  I see you only bet one each spin unless I am looking at it wrong.  I hope this helped you! Take care.
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: albertojonas on Nov 03, 09:06 AM 2010
Quote from: Droganson on Nov 03, 01:50 AM 2010
Hi, albertojonas.  I looked over your test session and noticed under your bets you only had ONE DS instead of the two that Hermes provided.  You are to bet 2 DSes side by side with each spin and go up the progression as you lose if you lose.  I see you only bet one each spin unless I am looking at it wrong.  I hope this helped you! Take care.

sorry dragon,
i bet on two at a time
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Hermes on Nov 03, 10:09 PM 2010
Alberto you screwed up a little! Why don't you put the numbers as I do? There will be no mistakes. Your numbers:
Spin No  # Bet W/L
1      5    1 1/6  W
2      30  2
3      5    3
4      24  4
5      7    5
6      9    6

7      13  1 1/6   L
8      1    2 2/5   L
9      8    3 3/4   L
10    4    4 4/3   L
11    4    5 5/2   L
12    34  6 6/1   W

13    0    1 1/6   L
14    28  2 2/5   W
15    8    3
16    8    4
17    13  5
18    31  6

19    28  1 1/6  L
20    13  2 2/5  L
21    11  3 3/4  L
22    17  4 4/3  W
23    9    5
24    0    6

25    32  1 1/6  W
26    2    2
27    26  3
28    1    4
29    34  5
30    1    6

31    3    1 1/6  W
32    7    2
33    ?    3
34    ?    4
35    ?    5
36    ?    6
and so on... You can mark it this way also but the other way is more see-through.
Hermes
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: albalaha on Nov 03, 11:56 PM 2010
Dear Hermes,
                 You always inspire me to think something new. I know the idea of shuffling all the numbers are always better than sticking to any particular number/ set of numbers. This way we remain protected from sleepers and ultimately get winnings. I want to see if you have your test results.
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Hermes on Nov 04, 10:58 AM 2010
I have the experience from craps tables. Sometimes the dealers push the players to bet faster to speed the game like roulette dealers do. If you bet more often you lose more, therefore the best tactics is to slow down the game by betting not every spin or throw. Betting every 6th spin is a fine way of breaking down the otherwise unbeatable formations.
Hermes
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: albertojonas on Nov 06, 01:35 AM 2010
 :embarrassed:

hi hermes
i play your vortex with the table & the results

I track 13 spins (1/3 of 37spins)
i count the appearences of each dozzen

ex:
DS1-5
DS2-3
DS3-1
DS4-1
DS5-2
DS6-1

it gives me an order (in case of tie I start by the lowest number)~~

1-2-5-3-4-6

i vortex the pairs like this

1/5
2/4
3/6
1/4
2/6
3/5

use your leveller
1-1-2-3-4
4till ahead

Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: albertojonas on Nov 06, 01:56 AM 2010
test2 +4
;D
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Hermes on Nov 08, 05:41 PM 2010
alberto, the vortex test 1 was a clever idea. Made some units.
Hermes
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: flukey luke on Nov 08, 05:59 PM 2010
Quote from: Hermes on Nov 04, 10:58 AM 2010
therefore the best tactics is to slow down the game by betting not every spin or throw. Betting every 6th spin is a fine way of breaking down the otherwise unbeatable formations.

I could not agree with you more Hermes. I can't understand why a player would want to 'lock' themself into a position which could turn nasty. It is a bad gambling trait in my opinion.
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Hermes on Nov 11, 10:30 PM 2010
Flukey luke, do you know why the gambles behave like that? Because the more they lose the more they bet and expecting recovering from losses. It is called gamblers fallacy, chasing the losses. Chasing losses ends up as 99.99% loser. All slot machine kamikazes do it.
Hermes                
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: power3 on Nov 12, 05:56 PM 2010
Hi everyone, one of the fundamental things a professional player know about roulette is that u need to ROTATE ur bets, streets, dozens, etc, and keep an eye on the wheel, obviously this Vortex is a good 1st stage session strategy, gets olds after 38 spins, and then what??, well, u need to change to another system and use every profit units to make this game interesting, what about playing dozens and columns at the same time, thats a good 2nd stage strategy, i like to use it as a middle game, but that time u already know if the wheel repeats numbers, which ones, and if the defensive coverage on zero works.
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: chrisbis on Nov 13, 08:49 AM 2010
Nice to see someone else who watches out for the Zero Green Globin too!
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: power3 on Nov 13, 09:19 AM 2010
My favorite pattern for Zero and Double Zero is: 2 consecutive numbers from the central column (2-5-8-11-14-17-20-23-26-29-32-35), mostly in the next 5 spins (repeating numbers excluded) will land right on the money
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: chrisbis on Nov 13, 05:30 PM 2010
Quote from: power3 on Nov 13, 09:19 AM 2010
My favorite pattern for Zero and Double Zero is: 2 consecutive numbers from the central column (2-5-8-11-14-17-20-23-26-29-32-35), mostly in the next 5 spins (repeating numbers excluded) will land right on the money

Playing on what type of casino wheel Power3?

B&M, airball (slingshot), or on-line live dealers?
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: power3 on Nov 13, 05:49 PM 2010
mostly on-line live dealers
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: chrisbis on Nov 13, 06:05 PM 2010
Any recommends P3?
Good ones I mean?
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Hermes on Nov 14, 09:51 PM 2010
Power3, do you think it is so easy? You must be a zeros hunter? They must shake in knees when they see you at the table. Just joking...
I will check it! One never knows?
Hermes
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: power3 on Nov 14, 10:40 PM 2010
Its is just a pattern i follow sometimes, the point is that zero has a pattern to predict  and some other numbers too as u must presume, i guess everybody is familiar with the roulette matrix made famous by Kimo Li
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: albertojonas on Nov 14, 10:49 PM 2010
that is kind of a grey zone still. :-X
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Hermes on Nov 15, 06:04 PM 2010
Sometimes it works, sometimes not. It is a grey zone.
I know an old woman, she plays only zeros 0-00. She mostly wins. Doesn't want to tell me the secret! At least she should give it to me in WILL, what do you think? When she would be 30 years younger I would lay her down but not that last breath.
Hermes
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: albalaha on Nov 17, 12:24 AM 2010
Quote from: Hermes on Nov 02, 08:16 PM 2010
This is my new system on double streets and spins/time combination. It works promising in testings.
Always bet 6 spins as separate session with firm combination of DS.
1st spin  1/6 DS
2nd spin 2/5 DS
3rd spin  3/4 DS
4th spin  4/3 DS
5th spin  5/2 DS
6th spin  6/1 DS with progression 1-1-2-3-4-4 and if losing continue the next 6 spins with 4 units until in TOTAL PLUS (Leveller)
Cheers Hermes
What is the difference between 3rd and 4th spin? Wouldn't it be better if we use this type of dynamic shuffle to fight different odds?:

1st spin  1/6 DS
2nd spin 2/5 DS
3rd spin  3/4 DS
4th spin  1/2 DS
5th spin  5/3 DS
6th spin  6/4 DS
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Twisteruk on Nov 17, 04:48 AM 2010
Quote from: albalaha on Nov 17, 12:24 AM 2010
   What is the difference between 3rd and 4th spin? Wouldn't it be better if we use this type of dynamic shuffle to fight different odds?:

1st spin  1/6 DS
2nd spin 2/5 DS
3rd spin  3/4 DS
4th spin  1/2 DS
5th spin  5/3 DS
6th spin  6/4 DS



I just tried this at dublinbet. I played for 45 mins betting Ã,£5 chips and won Ã,£300  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: albalaha on Nov 17, 05:15 AM 2010
Dear Paul,
            Did you try my way or that of Hermes?
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Twisteruk on Nov 17, 05:21 AM 2010
Quote from: albalaha on Nov 17, 05:15 AM 2010
Dear Paul,
            Did you try my way or that of Hermes?


No disrespect to Hermes but I tried it your way.


I will also test Hermes way  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Hermes on Nov 17, 09:00 PM 2010
That's good idea albalaha, no repeat.
Twisteruk, you will win with each of the strategies. Sometimes would saye you my version and sometimes albalaha's.
Hermes
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: power3 on Dec 02, 11:29 AM 2010
Well, i have a VORTEX modified version (THE MIRROR) working on dublinbet.com:

1.- we need to track the last spin.
2.- if last spin landed on DS1, we bet DS1 and DS6
3.- if last spin landed on DS2, we bet DS2 and DS5
4.- if last spin landed on DS3 or DS4 (except #20) we bet again on DS3 and DS4
5.- if last spin landed ZERO we need to go back and check the last spin before that.
6.- if landed on #20 we bet DS1 and DS6 (on ZERO too for defensive coverage, same for #32 and #28)

the progression works fine!

if u start with 10 units, goal = 10 units, 1 unit bet

Power3
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: weddings on Dec 02, 11:39 AM 2010
Why 20 is so special?
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Twisteruk on Dec 26, 02:16 PM 2010
Just played 100 spins of this baby

Ended at +880 Units

Progression was aggressive

Out of 100 Spins with 13 numbers (I covered the zero for kicks) I should of won 35% of the time.

I won 37% of the time. 37 wins and 63 losses

So right bang where it should of been

I played

1/6
2/5
3/4
4/3
5/2
6/1

I started with a 500 bank and ended at 1380

what's the bettin that happens with Real Money  :D
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: pedro on Jun 17, 07:50 PM 2011
I thought this needed resurrecting.

Another good piece from Master Hermes.

Played it yesterday at bm casino with good results.

Pedro
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Hermes on Jun 17, 10:59 PM 2011
Hi pedro what about baccarat with Bermuda Triangle approach? Vortex is good but Time Interruption is bulletproof.
Cheers Hermes
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Halba1 on Jun 18, 12:45 AM 2011
Hermes. I think bermuda triangle still the best approach on EC

reason is simple. D/S can sleep for a long time, just like a number. progression will knock it out.
Title: Re: Vortex Roulette System
Post by: Hermes on Jun 18, 12:09 PM 2011
Yes, D/C can sleep even for 25 spins but when you bet 4x4 square how longer can the D/C sleep? And when one sleep the other 2 are active you bet on active D/C not on sleepers. That's the difference. Bermuda is good on both ECs and D/C.
I test now even double streets that way.
Hermes
P.S. I abandoned the formation dozens combined with columns like 1C3A - C3A3 and so on...
Got a bad result. Just play separate dozens or columns not mix them together.