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Title: Play For Fun
Post by: ignatus on May 02, 01:24 AM 2017
***Warning this has not been tested enough, play on your own risk***  :twisted: (Maybe i should put this warning-label on all my systems?!)

This is an EC-Game, just an idea i had, a fallacy, nothing new?

Progression/Stoploss (use another if you like) I played with a 6 step Martingale, (1-2-4-8-16-32 STOP) and for that 315u is needed as minimum BR (played with 5u bets)

You end game IF
(1) You reach your wingoal.
(2) if the 6 step progression is lost


Best played on RNG, since playing Live would take forever to wait for a trigger? (My first testings was done with random numbers in RX)

Procedure: Wait for a series of RRRR, BBBB, RRBRBR or BBRBRB... Then wait for this patten to END. When the pattern has ended, Bet that it will not continue anew for the next 6 spins, then STOP.

for an example
RRRR -Trigger- now you wait for a B. When the Black has hit, you bet for a RBRBRB-pattern to be formed within the next 6 spins
BBRBRB -Trigger- now you wait for this pattern to end, THEN bet for a RRRR-pattern or BBBB-pattern to be formed within the next 6 spins

Stop & Restart at any hit

9/10 Games won from the first test session (very lucky? Yes?)
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: ignatus on May 02, 05:58 AM 2017
Anyone like to test this more (for fun) ?

Also ideas for another progression than martingale?

Thanks
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: sugtips on May 03, 04:10 AM 2017
played only for RRRR and BBBB, till now working well, but on small sessions. thanks.
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: sugtips on May 03, 04:15 AM 2017
Quote from: ignatus on May 02, 01:24 AM 2017Best played on RNG, since playing Live would take forever to wait for a trigger?

Yes I agree its taking long to get triggers on BMC.

So why not make a system out of it? I mean opposite to it, for live playing.

or we can change it to RRR or BBB and try?
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: ignatus on May 03, 04:51 AM 2017
Quote from: sugtips on May 03, 04:15 AM 2017
Yes I agree its taking long to get triggers on BMC.

So why not make a system out of it? I mean opposite to it, for live playing.

or we can change it to RRR or BBB and try?

Yes, that's a good idea? But still I don't like the waiting time for the trigger? But if you're prepared to wait for the trigger playing live , then i could test it..

IF you wait for a RRR or BBB, you have to wait until this pattern END. Then bet that this pattern will not continue for the next 6 spins, i use martingale (and i don't know if that's a good idea?) Still i had good results, but the killer pattern exist, although it SHOULD be a rare event? I give it a try, ....thx sugtips
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: sugtips on May 03, 05:24 AM 2017
Quote from: ignatus on May 03, 04:51 AM 2017Yes, that's a good idea? But still I don't like the waiting time for the trigger? 1) But if you're prepared to wait for the trigger playing live , then i could test it..

2) IF you wait for a RRR or BBB, you have to wait until this pattern END. Then bet that this pattern will not continue for the next 6 spins, i use martingale (and i don't know if that's a good idea?) Still i had good results, but the killer pattern exist, although it SHOULD be a rare event? I give it a try, ....thx sugtips

1) Yes Sir, I can wait, as I always play multiple systems together. Please test it.

2) Yes I understand it well.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: ignatus on May 03, 05:39 AM 2017
OK, i did test it with livespins, 5/5 games won But one session was a close call (see pic) I won on the last step in progression; 1-2-4-8-16-32, and the minimum bet for an EC bet is 5u, therefore;

a minimum bankroll of 315u is needed to cover up all steps in the progressionline

I played with a wingoal of 50u, (that would take about 80 spins i don't know how long that would take playing LIVE?) anyway,

For being in profit then, you need to win 7 sessions to cover up from a loss of 315u. (with a 50u wingoal) Question IS how often do this loss happen? How frequently do the killer pattern appear? More testing is needed...

Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: sugtips on May 03, 06:02 AM 2017
what was the trigger?
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: ignatus on May 03, 06:11 AM 2017
Quote from: sugtips on May 03, 06:02 AM 2017
what was the trigger?

I played with your trigger, your suggestion sugtips! instead of a pattern-formation of 4, i played with a patten-trigger of 3.

RRR
BBB
RRBRB
BBRBR
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: sugtips on May 03, 07:17 AM 2017
It's working well, but I am afraid if we lost 2 sessions back to back then what's the strategy to cover-up?

we need to check it with any other type of progression. may be 11-22-44-88-16 16-32 32, how do you see it?
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: ignatus on May 03, 07:31 AM 2017
Quote from: sugtips on May 03, 07:17 AM 2017It's working well, but I am afraid if we lost 2 sessions back to back then what's the strategy to cover-up?

I only lost 1 session in 15 games so far,

I've seen a coverup progression with martingale, perhaps it could be used then? it goes like

Level 1: 1-2-4-8-16-32
Level 2: 2-4-8-16-32-64
Level 3: 4-8-16-32-64-128
...and so on

As one level is lost go to the next level, until recovered, then go back to level 1.

(This is not my idea/invention)

You still need to recalculate the BR needed for each level, (im not good at math, sry!) :S

Perhaps it could be useful since losing one level SHOULD be a rare event, playing this system? i'll do 5 more live sessions, and we'll see...
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: sugtips on May 03, 07:39 AM 2017
Quote from: ignatus on May 03, 07:31 AM 2017I only lost 1 session in 15 games so far,

I've seen a coverup progression with martingale, perhaps it could be used then? it goes like

Level 1: 1-2-4-8-16-32
Level 2: 2-4-8-16-32-64
Level 3: 4-8-16-32-64-128
...and so on

As one level is lost go to the next level, until recovered, then go back to level 1.

(This is not my idea/invention)

Excellent, on it fully
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: ignatus on May 03, 08:26 AM 2017
Had my second loss, but that was not the end of the world-- i used the martingale recovery progression, and as you can see in this chart i recovered in about 180 spins.

I don't know how many spins you play at a normal live casino maybe playing for 2-3 hours? (that is a "normal" session??)
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: ignatus on May 03, 08:51 AM 2017
9/10 Games won (but in reality 10/10, since i recoverd from the loss as you can see in the previous post!) 
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: sugtips on May 03, 08:58 AM 2017
Quote from: ignatus on May 03, 08:26 AM 2017I don't know how many spins you play at a normal live casino maybe playing for 2-3 hours? (that is a "normal" session??)

I spend daily around 5 to 6 hours in Live Physical Casino, at least 4 days a week.
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: sugtips on May 03, 09:01 AM 2017
Quote from: ignatus on May 03, 08:51 AM 20179/10 Games won (but in reality 10/10, since i recoverd from the loss as you can see in the previous post!) 

that's a good result. thanks.

also during play, I have noticed and played HL and OE along with RB, and am seeing any EC is working well with this method (so far).
playing all 3 EC making it fast but requires more BRoll
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: ignatus on May 03, 09:07 AM 2017
Quote from: sugtips on May 03, 08:58 AM 2017I spend daily around 5 to 6 hours in Live Physical Casino, at least 4 days a week.

Wow, nice! OK so let's say each spin takes 3 minutes? That would be 60*5= 300 minutes /3 = 100 spins in 5 hours?? Could that be correct? :o
Title: Re: Play For Fun
Post by: sugtips on May 03, 09:17 AM 2017
Quote from: ignatus on May 03, 09:07 AM 2017
Wow, nice! OK so let's say each spin takes 3 minutes? That would be 60*5= 300 minutes /3 = 100 spins in 5 hours?? Could that be correct? :o

No, most of the time I gets 90-100 spins within 2 hours. it depends table to table and casino to casino.