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PATTERN ATTACK®

Started by Andre Chass, Apr 07, 03:24 PM 2018

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Ricky

After struggling to find a trigger for a few days I get 2 in the one shoe. PA trigger comes in waves as we have all realized. It is a winner if played with discipline and good MM.
69W-2L 1 TIE 806 euro profit

Cheers,
Ricky

Andre Chass

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 21, 12:59 AM 2018
After struggling to find a trigger for a few days I get 2 in the one shoe. PA trigger comes in waves as we have all realized. It is a winner if played with discipline and good MM.
69W-2L 1 TIE 806 euro profit

Cheers,
Ricky

Good job Ricky!

Many players use a strategy that win more than it lose. They do not play every spin / hand. They do not play every game but play when the conditions are right.
They use the strategy with proper money management.

Some people in this forum say they own HG. A perfect strategy that can be played all spin / hand and never loses. I do not believe in these people.

If there's HG, it is a combination of strategy, money management, discipline and patience to be played when conditions are favorable.

PS: Ricky knows what I mean and many players here too.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Ricky

Playing PATTERN ATTACK with MM is being prepared for 1 in 1000 shoes to get this. I had a feeling this was it and waited for the trigger of 8. Bet low 5 euro initially as it started to grow bet to recover loss. It kept going. It was too perfect. Made the 4 peat and started making the 5 peat. I played it very conservative prepared for a loss. Then on the 7th Step 100 euro on Banker and 15 euro on Tie I went for it and won the bet but lost the progression with 25 euro loss. If I did a typical 1-2-4-8 I would have lost hundreds and stop with a massive hole. Instead I live to fight another day because I deviated from the martingale knowing that the pattern cannot last forever. So you just have to time your entry for the big bets with gut feeling. especially when I have been getting many triggers today. This is a hand shuffle game so it can only be coincidence that I get the 1 in 1000 shoe shoeing a 4 2/3 peat

Cheers
Ricky

Ricky

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 21, 02:30 AM 2018
Playing PATTERN ATTACK with MM is being prepared for 1 in 1000 shoes to get this. I had a feeling this was it and waited for the trigger of 8. Bet low 5 euro initially as it started to grow bet to recover loss. It kept going. It was too perfect. Made the 4 peat and started making the 5 peat. I played it very conservative prepared for a loss. Then on the 7th Step 100 euro on Banker and 15 euro on Tie I went for it and won the bet but lost the progression with 25 euro loss. If I did a typical 1-2-4-8 I would have lost hundreds and stop with a massive hole. Instead I live to fight another day because I deviated from the martingale knowing that the pattern cannot last forever. So you just have to time your entry for the big bets with gut feeling. especially when I have been getting many triggers today. This is a hand shuffle game so it can only be coincidence that I get the 1 in 1000 shoe shoeing a 4 2/3 peat

Cheers
Ricky
Just to show what the shoe dealt after the almost 5 peat. It proves that the pattern cannot last forever. so you just need to attack the PATTERN at the right moment and sometimes let it establish itself more than the trigger. You can either flat bet for 3 bets and call it a loss or bet low amounts hoping to recover your some of  losses knowing the pattern is more likely to end before going to 5 peat.

Cheers,
Ricky

Andre Chass

 "We are essentially taking an educated guess and following it up with a negative progression"

- Ricky


In that point I don't agree with Ricky.

I'm not a guessing player. I play using statistics.

I'll say it again.

We also use probability in our favor. We bet that a rare event will not happen.

It's easy you see BPP forming for one time.... But it's hard to see BPP forming for 4 or 5 times, for example.


"Educated guess with negative progression is where it draws the usual criticism that system play offers no basis for edge over the casino games."

- CHT

"IF the statistical count is net positive, then yes that's advantage play.

Advantage play do not necessarily require the element of cause and effect. Inductive statistics is a form of advantage play."

- CHT
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Ricky

Quote from: Andre Chass on Apr 21, 04:39 AM 2018I'm not a guessing player. I play using statistics.
Hi Andre, I agree you are not guessing but you are educated. You are using statistics, probability, your brain, but in the end that exact hand you are betting you have no advantage over the casino that it will be player or banker. We just know that eventually the pattern has to be broken because cards cannot be shuffled so perfectly to continue that pattern on a regular basis. So we use a negative progression and have high risk "expecting" the pattern to eventually end which it will. An AP does not need to resort to negative progression to beat the casino.

With Card Counting it is mathematically proven that the more accurate your count of the cards you will have a statistical edge over the house due to the fact the deck of cards has a memory and with less cards in the deck of a certain value the statistical odds of getting dealt a certain card changes. You know to beat the dealer you need a certain value card high or low without going bust. So the count of the cards is going to give you that mathematical advantage. you are better able to make your decision to hit or stand or double or split.

Now with Baccarat, we can also keep track of the cards and if we were able to somehow use this information together with the rules of banker and player we may be able to work out a system that gives us an edge betting banker or player. I am not smart enough to determine what that edge may be but when you take say all the 7,8,9 cards from the deck there are certain combinations that cannot be made. There are less ways to get a natural if your first card is a 10 or A. But I am not clever enough to use this information to my advantage so need to resort to looking at patterns and statistics of those patterns occurring

Cheers,
Ricky

ozon

I see that the topic "No HG" has been closed.
I will write here what my impressions are.
Ricky, I still think Pattern Attack, it can work. Because we use rare patern.
I have my 60 sessions, I played against the usual 3 decision.
I wanted to see if hitnrun in his pure form can work, i aware of drawdowns and probabilities.
But it seems to me, usually playing hitnrun, to some extent affects the edge and depends on luck

Andre Chass

Quote from: ozon on Apr 21, 03:24 PM 2018
I see that the topic "No HG" has been closed.
I will write here what my impressions are.
Ricky, I still think Pattern Attack, it can work. Because we use rare patern.
I have my 60 sessions, I played against the usual 3 decision.
I wanted to see if hitnrun in his pure form can work, i aware of drawdowns and probabilities.
But it seems to me, usually playing hitnrun, to some extent affects the edge and depends on luck

Hi ozon

You said that you played 60 sessions.

What's your results? How many wins and losses?

Are you using the strategy playing baccarat or roulette?
We need players to contribute n this thread by posting the results so we can refine the strateg


Cheers

Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Ricky

Quote from: Andre Chass on Apr 21, 05:11 PM 2018
Hi ozon

You said that you played 60 sessions.

What's your results? How many wins and losses?

Are you using the strategy playing baccarat or roulette?
We need players to contribute n this thread by posting the results so we can refine the strateg


Cheers
Hi Andre
I think my b&m casino is watching this thread. I came across so many triggers playing on rapid baccarat live dealer i ended up losing 200. I had to slowly recover using PATTERN BREAKER on SicBo, roulette and baccarat. The pattern went to the 4th repeat in multiple occasions I had to stop using it
The cards are shuffled eith shufflemaster so I thing it may be programmed to generate this pattern. I am going to stay low for a while and monitor the situation. I had good success in PB so I will be mixing my play for a while

I am still going good on Online Casino as it is hand shuffled
Cheers
Ricky

Andre Chass

Well, I'll post my results today.

4 games played 3 wins 1 tie

1th game won on step 2

2th game won on step 1

3th game tie on first step

4h game won on step 2

Profit $90

I waited for the original trigger and I used 30, 60, 120 progression
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Andre Chass

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 21, 05:32 PM 2018
Hi Andre
I think my b&m casino is watching this thread. I came across so many triggers playing on rapid baccarat live dealer i ended up losing 200. I had to slowly recover using PATTERN BREAKER on SicBo, roulette and baccarat. The pattern went to the 4th repeat in multiple occasions I had to stop using it
The cards are shuffled eith shufflemaster so I thing it may be programmed to generate this pattern. I am going to stay low for a while and monitor the situation. I had good success in PB so I will be mixing my play for a while

I am still going good on Online Casino as it is hand shuffled
Cheers
'Ricky

Sorry to hear that, Ricky

I think we need change something in the strategy. I don't know what, maybe a longer trigger and play hit and run

Sometimes the triggers come in waves... Sometimes it almost 2 hours waiting
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

bikemotorman

You need to be careful of cards that are done in the SHUFFLE KING OR SHUFFLE MASTER machines.
Only play live hand shuffled games.
I want to hear your experiences with online casinos so that we can rate them I play on BetPhoenix only at this time.

There are advantages to playing against hand shuffled cards. They retain their biases much better than machine shuffled or factory preshuffled cards. Check out that hand-shuffled game I played yesterday. It retained its OTB4L bias perfectly from the beginning and all the way through. That is typical of hand shuffled cards - always was. That is why we don't see hand shuffled in the casinos any more. But we DO see them on line!

RICKY understand they are making the cards to play in a certain order when they are done in the shuffle machines.......................are you seeing any ten in a row or six in a row PPPPPP BBBBBB PPPPPPPPPP BBBBBBBBBB?????

Stuart
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Ricky

Quote from: bikemotorman on Apr 21, 08:17 PM 2018
You need to be careful of cards that are done in the SHUFFLE KING OR SHUFFLE MASTER machines.
Only play live hand shuffled games.
I want to hear your experiences with online casinos so that we can rate them I play on BetPhoenix only at this time.

There are advantages to playing against hand shuffled cards. They retain their biases much better than machine shuffled or factory preshuffled cards. Check out that hand-shuffled game I played yesterday. It retained its OTB4L bias perfectly from the beginning and all the way through. That is typical of hand shuffled cards - always was. That is why we don't see hand shuffled in the casinos any more. But we DO see them on line!

RICKY understand they are making the cards to play in a certain order when they are done in the shuffle machines.......................are you seeing any ten in a row or six in a row PPPPPP BBBBBB PPPPPPPPPP BBBBBBBBBB?????

Stuart
It is obvious and logical that the Casino will manipulate the shuffle on the most even game they have. How else would they make a profit. They string the punters along generating consistent patterns encouraging them to bet thousands to continue the pattern and then switching it at the optimum moment to break it when it is assumed the pattern will continue that one more hand.

The other day I saw 13 player hands PPPPPPPPPPPPP. This is way to much compared to a hand shuffle. Coincidence I don't know

cheers
Ricky

andrebac

Quote from: Ricky on Apr 21, 05:32 PM 2018
Hi Andre
I think my b&m casino is watching this thread. I came across so many triggers playing on rapid baccarat live dealer i ended up losing 200. I had to slowly recover using PATTERN BREAKER on SicBo, roulette and baccarat. The pattern went to the 4th repeat in multiple occasions I had to stop using it
The cards are shuffled eith shufflemaster so I thing it may be programmed to generate this pattern. I am going to stay low for a while and monitor the situation. I had good success in PB so I will be mixing my play for a while
ricky,
may you post your updated results?
I am willing to build a decent prog for play that stuff but need more data

Ricky

Quote from: andrebac on Apr 22, 12:31 AM 2018
ricky,
may you post your updated results?
I am willing to build a decent prog for play that stuff but need more data
Current Online play handshuffled Killing it with PA

Cheers
Ricky

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