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Beating the even money

Started by Winner, Jan 23, 10:45 AM 2019

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Winner

Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 25, 02:28 PM 2019
No one knows exactly how he plays and he aint tellin' , so it's fruitless.
Bw you won’t get it because you fail to explore what is hidden.your the type that if I gave you the the exact recipe you will say there is something still missing .sorry can’t help those who want there 🥩 cut for them

Winner

I put this deliberately under the testing thread .
Atlantis I flat on 2 s when I’m in the minus I bring in the magic 30. Progression is  124 8 16 32 64 128 I can do thi because I’ve doubled my 🏦 roll

Winner

Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 25, 02:28 PM 2019
No one knows exactly how he plays and he aint tellin' , so it's fruitless.
I don’t see General giving anyone any fruit either.
Or Steve he’s not handing his stealth roulette computer.
Come on man try .
The problem with all these guys that have great ideas they let it out of the bag for all the casinos to know ,card counters / computer guys and people like Dr. Thorp .i get a kick out the Dr. Part like it’s supposed to impress me .then they all have to go covert.more work until they get caught.
I go in I sit down  I play I win I leave .I don’t work as hard as black jack players do those poor bastards and then they have to be Careful not to get banned .
The 👁 in the sky thinks I’m another dumb gambler playing roulette that’s supposed to be unbeatable. I’ll just keep milking them.

atlantis

Quote from: Winner on Feb 25, 04:09 PM 2019
I put this deliberately under the testing thread .
Atlantis I flat on 2 s when I’m in the minus I bring in the magic 30. Progression is  124 8 16 32 64 128 I can do thi because I’ve doubled my 🏦 roll

Thank you for that. I see you elect to use regular martingale now due to having increased your bankroll already. Good. :)
Ok then - just how far into the minus before you decide to bring on the "magic 30" patterns + progression?  -3? - 4?
From your previous posts I suspect may be -4 - can you at least confirm that?
Or do you stay at 1unit continuing to bet until  3 or 4 successive losers in a row before switching.....?

Your result:
12210121111202112121

Seems like you would go into switch progression after the 10th or 11th result (1's)...

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

atlantis

Hello winner,

I will try to understand one of your recent results better.

I take your 18 real results + 2 zero's result below.

12210121111202112121 = 7 +2

Progression: (as you stated)

1-2-4-8-16-32-64-128

I start by betting 1u until -4 then switch to pattern containing the EARLIEST  incidence of last 4 'pair results'.

1 L-1                                                -1
2 w+1                                               0
2 w+1                                               +1
1 L-1                                                 0
0 L-1                                                -1
1 L-1                                                -2
2 w+1                                               -1
1 L-1                                                -2
1 L-1                                                -3
1 L-1                 switch to line 2        -4*   Time to start progression 1-2-4-8 etc. and switch (2111) = Pattern 2   
1 w+1                switch to line 3       -3      reset prog to 1-2-4-8 etc...
2 L-1                                                -4
0 L-2                                                -6
2 w+4                switch to line 4       -2      won so reset prog to 1-2-4-8 etc...
1 w+1                switch to line 5       -1      won so reset prog to 1-2-4-8 etc...
1 L-1                                                -2
2 w+2                switch to line 6        0       won so reset prog to 1-2-4-8 etc...
1 L-1                                                 -1
2 w+2                switch to line 7        +1     won so reset prog to 1-2-4-8 etc...
1 w+1                end of 18 results      +2     won so reset prog to 1-2-4-8 etc...

L-10; w+12; Profit = +2units.
Highest bet = 4

12210121111202112121 = 7 +2

1-12211212
2-21111222
3-11212212
4-12111112
5-22211211
6-22111211
7-12211221

The green shows earliest incidence of last 4 pair results. (line 2)
The red highlights the actual bets and selections made using the progression.

Anyhow  - this is how I arrive at same profit (+2) as you and also coincides with your results from the switch patterns - As to whether it in fact correct - I dunno... but it seems to fit the selections... ?!??  :)

Regards,
Atlantis.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Winner

There is someone here that has 97% but not the immortal way.congrats and hope people here find there way .check your PMS for the one who almost crack it.
Ps and please keep it for your self let others do there own work.you will appreciate more

Mako

Quote from: Winner on Feb 26, 12:29 PM 2019
There is someone here that has 97% but not the immortal way.congrats and hope people here find there way .check your PMS for the one who almost crack it.
Ps and please keep it for your self let others do there own work.you will appreciate more

Thanks Winner, any time we get a long thread from someone doing well who's willing to share information it's appreciated. 

It doesn't matter if it's fallacy, or luck, or an actual solid method, when people share how they're playing it's both fun and educational at the same time.

Cheers to you.  :)

Winner

Quote from: Mako on Feb 26, 01:06 PM 2019
Thanks Winner, any time we get a long thread from someone doing well who's willing to share information it's appreciated. 

It doesn't matter if it's fallacy, or luck, or an actual solid method, when people share how they're playing it's both fun and educational at the same time.

Cheers to you.  :)
Thanks

Winner

And if one can improve this be my guest I’m open to hearing it.thanks

atlantis

Hi winner,

Well in order to perhaps improve it, if it actually does need improving that is, we need to understand it first! LOL :)

It would help immensely if you could show a few more example results that clearly demonstrate how you reached the ending total + or minus.

I imagine that if in plus or less than -4 at any time during the sequence there is no need to switch to the patterns at all - so you could theoretically end a series with a small loss just flatbetting.  I suppose then you would start a new series and depending how things go may have to use switch progression during that one..?

I would like to ask: Do you have crystal clear rules on when to switch and switch back or not that you apply consistently over every session?

If not. and it is more personally subjective or of an intuitional nature or a guess, then it is going to be very difficult indeed for anybody at all to work out just exactly how you operate your method successfully.

Now, sticking to the same clear and defined rules for EVERY session may not always be advisable, I know - but I assume you have some sort of rules to cover all sorts of eventualities in the results that might occur.

Can you tell us more about WHY you are so certain about your system working -"immortally" - as long as it is operated in the correct fashion and followed to the letter.

I assume that the example I posted, even though duplicates your result, is incorrect in some ways and that I don't have the switching idea quite right.

Any info you can share will be most welcome and shine some light and point the way towards the proper and correct way to proceed.

I can see that progression is the key - I have always thought the marty you play to be a little 'dangerous' so I would probably personally adapt with a less riskier type of progression.

Best regards,
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

RayManZ

Here is my play of a session of 36 spins. All flat bet

1   
2   W
1   L
2   W
1   L
1   L
1   W
1   W
1   W
1   W
1   W
1   W
1   W
1   W
1   W
2   L
1   W
2   L

I just follow what happend the last time a number appeared.

atlantis

Quote from: RayManZ on Feb 28, 09:07 AM 2019
1   
2   W
1   L
2   W
1   L
1   L
1   W
1   W
1   W
1   W
1   W
1   W
1   W
1   W
1   W
2   L
1   W
2   L

Don't geddit, Raymanz. If you're following what happened last time  then how come you lost after the second 2?

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Maui13

Trust the timing of your life!

RayManZ

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 28, 09:16 AM 2019
Don't geddit, Raymanz. If you're following what happened last time  then how come you lost after the second 2?

A.

Mainly because i'm an idiot and made a mistake  :sad2:. That should be a W indeed. Sorry for the confussion.

Just try it on some of the sequences already posted here.

atlantis

Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

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