@ turbo

[Shogun]

I told myself, not ever to return to this god forsaken place, but here i am  and i know i will be spit upon once again, but so be it.
why am here? because steve is still opperating his secret roulette divices somewhere in a very dark basement  no just kidding. I'm here to open all you're eyes. but you need to put some effort in it, to see that there is indead a way to beat this game from hell.
Guys, you can check and test as much spins as you want, but the results will always and i repeat, stay always the same.
Please open you're eyes and don't let other fool you're thoughts.
Every roulette number, any locatiom for that matter will always return to their average point, giving enough spins.
You will never see a number or a location drifting further and further away from it's average point. it will always decreases in spins, to move closer and closer to where it should be.
Everyone on here that is saying that it won't are just lying and a. don't get it and didn't test this, or they are trying to prevent you from winning.
it's just like testing the Minimum interval colum in Rx, every location wil and i repeat wil, return to a MI of "1".
don't tell me that i'm wrong, because i'm right. test it, and you'll see that after millions of steve's spins, the results will always be the same.

Have a nice day.
j.e.

Welcome back. Hope you will stay. Ignore the negative. I won’t even read it.  But hard because it’s all over the place.

[Shogun]

I believe there are people winning at roulette dare I say it with systems and even with Rng.
I’m not doing to badly and I’m sure there are those doing  even better.
Don’t know what passion or turbo are doing and frankly I don’t care.  Good luck to them.

@ Katalyst totally agree with you.

[Bigbroben]

Hi Jehk,
glad you're back.  By the way, Junescissors is gone, so we're good.

[The General]

I told myself, not ever to return to this god forsaken place, but here i am  and i know i will be spit upon once again, but so be it.
why am here? because steve is still opperating his secret roulette divices somewhere in a very dark basement  no just kidding. I'm here to open all you're eyes. but you need to put some effort in it, to see that there is indead a way to beat this game from hell.
Guys, you can check and test as much spins as you want, but the results will always and i repeat, stay always the same.
Please open you're eyes and don't let other fool you're thoughts.
Every roulette number, any locatiom for that matter will always return to their average point, giving enough spins.
You will never see a number or a location drifting further and further away from it's average point. it will always decreases in spins, to move closer and closer to where it should be.
Everyone on here that is saying that it won't are just lying and a. don't get it and didn't test this, or they are trying to prevent you from winning.
it's just like testing the Minimum interval colum in Rx, every location wil and i repeat wil, return to a MI of "1".
don't tell me that i'm wrong, because i'm right. test it, and you'll see that after millions of steve's spins, the results will always be the same.

Have a nice day.
j.e.

What Jekhb doesn't comprehend is that a number hitting at expectation isn't enough because the longer the player plays, the farther and farther they will drift away from break even. 

38 spins... a random number is 2 units behind break even.
380 spins... a random number is 20 units behind break even.
3800 spins... a random number is 200 units behind break even.
38000 spins... a random number is 2000 units behind break even.
380000 spins... a random number is 20000 units behind break even.
3800000 spins... a random number is 200000 units behind break even.

A number that has "returned to it's average point" (hits at expectation) isn't enough to win.  It just causes the player to lose more and more as they continue to play.   And running an up as you lose progression is called chasing your losses

[jekhb76]

Glad some are happy that I'm back 
Again, i'm not here to provoke or anything like that.
either one has a right of their own oppinion, but some things are needed to be said, some folks won't like what i have to say, well so be it.
i'm here for everyone who is willing to learn something and not letting all the naysayers on here bring them on the wrong path. Because there is a way to always win in roulette. like i said before, the awnser is in the Minimum intervals and the average point of every location.
steve and his general can keep saying that i'm wrong, but deep down inside they know i'm right, but somehow they refuces to admit that, shame. I just don't understand it. aren't we here to help out as much as we can and support everyone in their journey?
But no, they keep saying that turbo is crazy and that i need to go out and make millions, or show my bank acount as proof. sad sad world.

[The General]

Jekhb,

You can learn the basics, probability, and the payouts for roulette at the wizardofodds and Wiki. 

Chasing your losses with the gambler's fallacy is a very old and risky scheme.

[Bigbroben]

I wish I will not need to read here the equivalent of the 15 page of the '' so called Fallacy'' from another site, this was a really boring discussion with nothing fresh past the 2nd page.

[jekhb76]

Jekhb,

You can learn the basics, probability, and the payouts for roulette at the wizardofodds and Wiki. 

Chasing your losses with the gambler's fallacy is a very old and risky scheme.

did you know that i was counting the seconds to see when you would reply?
i said to myself, within five minutes! how right i was

[The General]

did you know that i was counting the seconds to see when you would reply?
i said to myself, within five minutes! how right i was

Great, then I'm glad that I was able to help you with some valuable facts and links.

[jekhb76]

I wish I will not need to read here the equivalent of the 15 page of the '' so called Fallacy'' from another site, this was a really boring discussion with nothing fresh past the 2nd page.

i won't go that far again man, not gaining anything from it.

[jekhb76]

Great, then I'm glad that I was able to help you with some valuable facts and links.

thanks man, really appreciate it

[Shogun]

Glad some are happy that I'm back 
Again, i'm not here to provoke or anything like that.
either one has a right of their own oppinion, but some things are needed to be said, some folks won't like what i have to say, well so be it.
i'm here for everyone who is willing to learn something and not letting all the naysayers on here bring them on the wrong path. Because there is a way to always win in roulette. like i said before, the awnser is in the Minimum intervals and the average point of every location.
steve and his general can keep saying that i'm wrong, but deep down inside they know i'm right, but somehow they refuces to admit that, shame. I just don't understand it. aren't we here to help out as much as we can and support everyone in their journey?
But no, they keep saying that turbo is crazy and that i need to go out and make millions, or show my bank acount as proof. sad sad world.

Great. I think there is a lot of people that are willing  to learn and see roulette in new ways.
I think as roulette as a sort of hobby. Like reading and testing anything roulette related.

Maybe you could start a new thread.  With your ideas 😊

[Bigbroben]

This file is set with Excel random in column B but feel free to enter any nr you want, up to 1000.

It calculates how many spins between appearances of a number.

[The General]

This file is set with Excel random in column B but feel free to enter any nr you want, up to 1000.

It calculates how many spins between appearances of a number.

1000 spins is too small.  Here's why.  If you look for the longest gap then you need a way to test your longest gap "trigger".  In order to correctly test you need to compare an equal number of betting attempts with a trigger, and an equal number of attempts without any trigger.  So you really need to upload about five or ten million spins from random.org. because every trigger exponentially reduces the spin sample test size.

[Bigbroben]

Sure why not, but the point of sharing the file was simply to have a quick and easy visual on spin gaps per number, not to prove anything or to find extremes.

And with 1000 spins plus all the calculation, it get close to maximal allowed 1,5Mb file.