Kimo Li

[P.A]

Hi Gentlemen,
below a clearer version, with the wording..

SINGLE----SERIES...

So if we do a single/series chart with the said Hemi...

A represents 1,5,3
W represents 2,6,4
zero=0
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AA1---series
WWWW2---series
A1-SINGLE
W2-SINGLE
A3-SINGLE
W4-SINGLE
A5-SINGLE
WW3----series
A6-SINGLE
WW4----series
AAA5----series
W7-SINGLE
AAAAA6
WW7----series
A8-SINGLE
WWW8----series
A9-SINGLE
WWW9----series
AA10----series
WW11----series
AAAA12----series
WWWWWW13----series
A10-SINGLE
WW14----series
AA15----series
zero-1
A 11-SINGLE
zero-2
WWWWWW16--series
A12-SINGLE
W13-SINGLE
A14-SINGLE
WW17----series
AAA18----series
WW19----series
AAA20----series
W15-SINGLE
AA21----series
W16-SINGLE
A17-SINGLE
W18-SINGLE
A19-SINGLE
W20-SINGLE
A21-SINGLE
WWWWW22----series
A22-SINGLE
AAAA23----series
W23-SINGLE
A24-SINGLE
WWWWWW24----series
A25-SINGLE
W26-SINGLE
zero-3
A27-SINGLE
W28-SINGLE
AAAAA25----series
WW26----series
A29-SINGLE
WW27----series
AAA28----series
W30-SINGLE
A31-SINGLE
WW29---series
A32-SINGLE
WWWWWW30--series
A33-SINGLE
WW31----series
A34-SINGLE
WW32----series
A35-SINGLE
W36-SINGLE
zero-4
WWWWW33----series
AA34----series
W37-SINGLE
A38-SINGLE
W39-SINGLE
AAA35----series
WWW36----series
AA37----series
W40-SINGLE
AAA38----series
W41-SINGLE
A42-SINGLE
W43-SINGLE
AAA39----series
WWW40----series
A44-SINGLE
W45-SINGLE
A46-SINGLE
WWW41----series
zero-5
WWW42----series
A47-SINGLE
WWWWWW43----series
AAAAA44----series
WWW45----series
A48-SINGLE
WW46----series
AA47----series
WW48----series
zero-7
W49-SINGLE
AA49----series
W50-SINGLE
A51-SINGLE
WWW50----series
A52-SINGLE
WW51----series
AA52----series
W53-SINGLE
AAAAA53---series
WWW54----series
AAAA55----series
W54-SINGLE
AA56----series
W55-SINGLE
AA57----series
WW58----series
A56-SINGLE
W57-SINGLE
AA59----series
W58-SINGLE
A59-SINGLE
WW60----series
AAA61----series
WWW62----series
A60-SINGLE
W61-SINGLE
A62-SINGLE
WWW63----series
A63-SINGLE
W64-SINGLE
AA64----series
WW65----series
A65-SINGLE
W66-SINGLE
AAA66----series
W67-SINGLE
A68-SINGLE
WWW67----series
AA68----series
W69-SINGLE
A70-SINGLE
W71-SINGLE
AA69----series
zero-8
W72-SINGLE
A73-SINGLE
WW70----series
AA71----series
WWW72----series
AAA73----series
WWWWW74
A74-SINGLE
W75-SINGLE
AA75----series
W76-SINGLE
AA76----series
WWWW77----series
A77-SINGLE
W78-SINGLE
A79-SINGLE
W80-SINGLE
AAAAA78----series
WW79----series
A81-SINGLE
WWWWWWW80---series
AA81----series
zero-9
W82-SINGLE
A83-SINGLE
W84-SINGLE
A85-SINGLE
WWWW82----series
A86-SINGLE
zero-10
A87-SINGLE
W88-SINGLE
AAA 83----series
WWW84----series
AAAAAAA85----series

thus series=85, single=88,
almost equilibrium....

See what u can do with the HEMI decision, arranged as series/single chart?

how to win if the result always near equilibrium???
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[P.A]

Thanks P.A, but the losses would be reduced if you do not bet (on the third spin) when 00,11,22 comes?

I tried your theory P.A, and i had no success with it. sorry

Pie 1&4"0"= 1,2,4,5,15,16,19,20,21,24,32,33
pie 2&5"1"= 6,9,13,14,17,18,22,25,27,29,31,34
pie 3&6"2"= 3,7,8,10,11,12,23,26,28,30,35,36



101 L1

120 W1
022 L2
1
120 W2

202 L3

102 W3
211 L4

100 L5
211 L6
211 L7
011 L8

021 W4
021 W5
100 L9

200 L10
022 L11

010 L12
101 L13
212 L14
102 W6
120 W7
200 L15

202 L16
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win=7, and loss=16

thus win=7/23=30.43% !!!
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heloo Ignatus, that 30.43%,
what more do u want?

I stressed EQUILIBRIUM!
anything that move too high or too low, will caused u to lose your underwear as it bet on LUCK...

and I wonder HOW DEEP
is your understanding
of roulette theory???

Are u still in beginner stage?

or expert stage???

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I think the problem with people WITHOUT BURNING DESIRE TO LEARN,..
=
1]read and forget...

2]read and hastily make assumption...

3]read and laziness to really understand...

the real meanning of the teory!

[Kimo Li]

This is what American Pinwheel tracking should look like.

Kimo Li

[Bassie the Clown]

try out yourself!
and u will see that the permutation of 201,102,120, are the majority, and the 111, 100,101, are the minority...
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Thanks P.A., thanks is a small word for such an enormous investment of time from your side. You have done a great job explaining the pinwheel strategy and you deserve all the respect for that 
I got it now, and I will try tomorrow the pinwheel strategy on the live wheels.

[P.A]

try out yourself!
and u will see that the permutation of 201,102,120, are the majority, and the 111, 100,101, are the minority...
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Thanks P.A., thanks is a small word for such an enormous investment of time from your side. You have done a great job explaining the pinwheel strategy and you deserve all the respect for that 
I got it now, and I will try tomorrow the pinwheel strategy on the live wheels.

Heloooo BASSIE CLOWN!
Not so soon!
Hold your mule,
or your donkey,
or your unicycle...

Dont go clowning in casino,and then after losing your clown nose, hat and underwear, u come back here and spit venom at me!!!


It not easy as u think!

Do u really understand the method,
progression needed,
the staking ,
the VARIANCE avoidance..
and the minimum capital needed???

THIS THE GREATEST PROBLEM OF THE PEOPLE
WHO HAVE NO BURNING DESIRE TO LEARN!

u people just read, and make fast  assumption..
[u know the word assumption, start with ...axx ]


STOP right there!
Even though u fully understand Kimo Li method,
u still need time to test, to expect the unexpected!!!

Stop that clowning act!
Casino not a circus, where u fall down and presume nothing happen, and keep smiling around!

[P.A]

Kimo Li posted an image,

and, for those who cant understand, let see below.


123=mean 1st,2nd,3rd spin increment.

14-25-36=mean pinwheel-1&4,2&5,3&6

8-8-7 mean=in the last 27spins,

pinwheel1&4 had 8hit.
pinwheel2&5 had 8hit.
pinwheel3&6 had 7 hit.

so how will u staking and win,???


Thus u can see the wheel balanced,
so, whether the wheel balanced or biased,
either way, the casino lose their edge!!!

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6,2,2=mean
1st spin=6,
2nd=2,
3rd=2,
thus 622 in 3spins increment.

102=mean
pinwheel1&4, have 1hit,
pw 2&5 have no hit,
pw36 have 2hit.
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6,2,2=102

12,2,2=021


3,33,4=021

15,10,17=111

3,24,11=021

19,0,0=100

30,5,15=300

10,35,27=210

0,0,18=001


see if your eyes good enough..

[P.A]

I tried your theory P.A, and i had no success with it. sorry

Well ,
IGNATUS!!!

After a long series of test, tens thousand of sessions, by one of the respected member of roulette forums, WE REALIZED that my theory and finding are WRONG, and they all FAILED MISERABLY!!!

In the long run, they will produced major losses!
No wonder Kimo Li ignored my posting,
though he blew compliment about my effort.

So they are right

ROULETTE CANT BE BEATEN!!!

Just forget about gambling,
just go find a good job, or good hobby,
and dont let tragedy of losing and broken family happen to U !!!

I had witnessed many broken family and even suicide due to gambling!

U just cant win, or else all the casino wont survive for the last 300 years!

Listen to me!
Forget gambling,
forget roulette.
start a new life, and enjoy life!

Please accept my sincere apology.
I am very sorry!

[Bassie the Clown]

Heloooo BASSIE CLOWN!
Not so soon!
Hold your mule,
or your donkey,
or your unicycle...

Dont go clowning in casino,and then after losing your clown nose, hat and underwear, u come back here and spit venom at me!!!

Stop that clowning act!
Casino not a circus, where u fall down and presume nothing happen, and keep smiling around!

Thanks for the warning P.A., much appreciated    With your warning and advize in my mind I tried this morning the pinwheel system with success. In a 2.5 hour session I managed to win over 500 units. I've noticed some issues during this session. As Always the major problem is wich progression to use. I tried to minimize my risk and used the penthouse progression, and I Always resetted back to 1 unit when I was even or in a plus. But the most important thing I did not understand is why not using this type of betting on the dozens? In my opinion not the betselection is most important at the roulette game, but moneymanagement. Regardless of what betselection you are using, a bad streak will occur. Important is to see when not to bet and have the opportunity to survive a bad streak. From my point of view the pinwheel strategy, or Kimo Li's pies and stars are more complexed betting selections. Nothing wrong with that, but then I at least expect a hitrate over 33%.  Because if not, what is then the point of using such a complex system instead of a more simplistic betselection with the same hitrate like applying 012 to the dozens?

Kind regards,
Bassie

[Bassie the Clown]

Just tried the pinwheel basics, meaning you bet on 012, 102, 210 etc to hit on the dozens with the same result. It is not the pinwheel bettingselection that makes it work, but the penthouse progression.

[bckwrds]

bckwrds,

Enjoying your chips and beverage, I presume.

Best regards,

Kimo Li

Kimo, I respect what you say in regards to knowing the wheel. Im learning the wheel layout because regardless of what system you use, knowing the wheel layout will help.
Your, I wont say systems because you never really tell anyone how and when to bet, but your play style is a good way of quickly breaking the wheel into sections and for seeing how the ball is behaving, as you designed it. Quick easy to remember names for movements and numbered sections are great and I will probably use them even if I never use your system, whatever that may be. So I like to honestly thank you for that.

From what I've read on other threads devoted to your play style things do start to get a bit flamey when talking about your work especially your followers which start to sound a bit cult like, but hey who doesn't want a cult following? That is why Ive got my chips ready, though it seems I do need a top up on the beverage, and yes both are being enjoyed greatly mate.
bck

[TwoCatSam]

P.A.

Was that long, rambling post to ignatus about losing the home and suicide and all that rot--was that tongue-in-cheek or were you serious?

I mean about some respected member doing tests and declaring it a failure.  Were you just poking ignatus?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Sam

[thelaw]

Has anyone .........ANYONE actually made profit long term with Kimo's systems?

This whole thread seems like a ruse.

Kimo comes on and "shares his knowledge", new members pop up and call him "sensei", and yet no one yet has a proven set of results.

This is roulette, not art criticism. This is math...........PERIOD.

So if Kimo has a system that reads the wheel patterns, then there should be a simple flat betting system to take advantage of this, and yet .............crickets.

Why hasn't someone like GLC chimed in with a progression if this is so effective.

I would like to call BS on Kimo Li, but he seems to be presenting solid info here, whereas members are not proving him wrong. Just think about the threads from JL...........80pages long, but this............no one seems interested. Is this because Kimo's been around for so long, that we assume he's a fraud?

Something is off about this whole thing..........maybe Kimo..........maybe us.........

[Tamino]

Kimo Li in his own words  does not   go for the " lomg run" according to my interpretation that  he does not   want  to exceed 12 spins during one session.


However he is mum on loss limits  and  replaying  winnings.Two vital components of the MM holy grail. No dpubt  in my mind that he  has developed a solid exit strategy.


Tamino


The contents of this  post  are  intented for  recreational purposes only. Play at your own risk. Nor is this an endorsement of Kimo Li`s  bet selection.

[P.A]

P.A.

Was that long, rambling post to ignatus about losing the home and suicide and all that rot--was that tongue-in-cheek or were you serious?

I mean about some respected member doing tests and declaring it a failure.  Were you just poking ignatus?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Sam

Hi Sam,

Seriously, no joke.

I am just lucky, or plain 'good luck',
to pick a few tens of Hamburg result,
actual, that show good marvelous hit,
but an intrigued, respected member,
contact me via mail,
and after a few mail exchanging notes
of my so called 'grail' method,
he done a few tens thousands 'session'
with his program, and DISMAYED .

I feel like crying..
both of us were dismayed that the end result,
show that it not a grail, but just,
as just like other "alchemist-grail",
will show very good,and bad, and very bad result!

and for the past few months,
I really thought I was the GENIUS who solved how to beat roulette!!!
Hahahahahaaw!!!

And if someone apply my 'grail',
then he will profit greatly, and lose greatly too.
Thus my idea and method,
which, have nothing to do with Kimo Li Way,
a disappointment..

Maybe Kimo has a grail, just ask him,
maybe he will teach u...

But I doubt he will....

Thus jusfergeddit!

You see, we have many learned senior members in forums [u included], and after
all these years, have any of u found a grail???
No...everyone say, just for entertainment purpose!

A few claimed to have grail, are actually, when u contact them,
will,..err...err...err..U understand what I mean. hehehee.
I just dont want to make any enemy here...period.

@BassieClown,
yeah, of course,
U can play with dozen, black/red/odd/even/hi/lo, and even street, double street, even on baccarat too!
it will make huge profit, but then after more session,
and u will see that u will lose greatly ,
and lose your underwear.hehehee..

Thus, gamble or rather, clowning at u own risk,
and dont look for me when u lose your skirt..hahahaa.


@Thelaw,
u are right!

For three years, I was mesmerize, a CULT-like...follower,
But Kimo never teach anything, or show any finer point to,
he successfully bring on a mysterious AURA around him!

as I said, I respect him...he is good at math, psychology of mass marketing,
and he a shrewd businessman.



That 3 year effort down the drain...never mind, it give my brain, good exercise.
Maybe I should start to learn how to play CHESS, and become a world champion, after 5 years, of burning desire to learn..hahahaa

I know how to laugh at myself, that life, life short, just work hard, play hard, and enjoy life before we goner...

Just forget gambling..
CASINO had exist for the last 300 years, and more being build.

After u gone from this world, the casino still here to stay.

Listen to my advise, dont gamble your life saving,
U will not be the next genius to break the casino...never!

As Kimo said to me"Go make money", actually a  insinuation..
So I say to u seriously.."Go for another hobby, forget roulette!"

I never see anyone make money from casino,
but many who sold their properties, to pay gambling debt!!!
my family member included!

I already give up, and aint post no more ..

Thanks!

[ignatus]

Most systems will fail,... and even the best system can lose sometimes. (Losses have to be accepted)

But to be realistic you can have a system that wins 8/10 times or 9/10 times

I have invented three such systems, still most people don't care.