Brains

[nottophammer]

Whats the saying, if you had brains you'd be dangerous.
Well on this site theres some people with brilliant brains, do you ask yourself are these people really that gen'd up on roulette, do they have, poses more knowledge on roulette than you, or is this knowledge, just experiance.

If you watch players in the local bookmakers you must think haven't a glue,ask them a question on roulette like where the tier is or what d/s are, haven't a clue.

So, do brains really help, me, i think it helps.

Startergy, well theres 1720 members  on here and i bet we all have some form of stratergy to our game play.

Suddenly we find  a startergy that works 9 times out of ten, would this be a H.G.

[MrJ]

TRIAL and ERROR.

Ken

[Kav]

TRIAL and ERROR.

Easier said than done. Evaluating a system is extremely difficult.
A winning system can lose some times and a losing system can win some times. How do you distinguish the one from the other?
This is also the "objection" I have with you changing systems over time. If a system that has offered profits starts to lose, how do you know if this is a sign of the system being bad and abandon it or if the losses are temporary due to variance.
You say you are successful in the long term, yet you change systems over time. This is like saying that all this time you used losing systems but somehow you just won with most of them for the limited time you used each one of them. This seems like pure luck. This is not an attack. Just a honest mystification.

To me the best way to discover a good system is to understand all the aspects of the main idea it is based on.

[MrJ]

"Easier said than done" >>> Put in the same time I have.

In regards to changing systems....... I dont play systems, I play methods. Also, TWEAKING a method is far different than starting from scratch (new).

........and we are also not counting 2 methods I dont have posted and never will. You can thank the, "you'll never win" crowd for that.

Ken

[Kav]

Systems, methods, strategies, bet selections, progressions more or less they are all ways to play the game.

Going from sleepers to repeaters or hot numbers is not a tweak, is a 180 degree turn.

[Proofreaders2000]

Brains help, but to be brutally honest you need
self discipline.  Even to win just one unit and leave.

[MrJ]

I'll give you a good example Kav....... I have a "decent" method (posted somewhere) regarding completing a street, 28 29 30 as an example.

I am on my 5th and LAST version (knock on wood) of this fine method through tweaking. It had SO MUCH POTENTIAL to simply play it as posted, so........ I killed my brain trying to figure out EVERY "what if" situation for this and I believe I have.

I now play THIS version often. Point being, if I had to guess in regards to the last 8 years, I would say I have studied/tested/played more methods via tweaking a CURRENT method rather than coming up with something fresh. Not saying I'm right or wrong, its just the way I PREFER doing it. Take an idea that is "not bad" and run with it. Reminds me of a thread I did years ago. I want to re-post it when I get a few extra minutes.

Ken

[Dane]

I'll give you a good example Kav....... I have a "decent" method (posted somewhere) regarding completing a street, 28 29 30 as an example.

I am on my 5th and LAST version (knock on wood) of this fine method through tweaking. It had SO MUCH POTENTIAL to simply play it as posted, so........ I killed my brain trying to figure out EVERY "what if" situation for this and I believe I have.

I now play THIS version often. Point being, if I had to guess in regards to the last 8 years, I would say I have studied/tested/played more methods via tweaking a CURRENT method rather than coming up with something fresh. Not saying I'm right or wrong, its just the way I PREFER doing it. Take an idea that is "not bad" and run with it. Reminds me of a thread I did years ago. I want to re-post it when I get a few extra minutes.

Ken

Hi Ken
Some years ago I won much money by betting on the missing number in any street. I did not stick to flat betting, but increased  after each street that had been completed. Of course it did fail in the long run.
You seem to have the TIME to practice a rather limited bet selection. And I am sure that the Casinos want us to stay as long as possible. But if we have a train to catch,
we can´t afford to stay.  I once waiting almost two hours before any of the streets completed.
As we know, there are twelve streets in area 1-36. I have found other combinations with adjacent numbers at the table layout. One from each column. Like 1-5-9 or
30-32-34. There are TWENTY of such combinations.
I don´t like counting spins or chips. Instead I have chosen to count the numbers that have come. I have placed my DEADLINE right after filling in exactly THIRTEEN different Squares or spaces inside the well known 12X3 layout. It should be obvious that the probability for the appearance of any randomly selected number there in time is exactly 13/36. I don´t have a degree in math, but I have played with my cheap Electronic calculator:
'The probability that one specific combination (say 1-5-9) does NOT complete in time: 1-(13/36^3) = 0.9529106653.

0.9529106653^20 = 0.38110421747.
In other Words: the p that at least one of the 20 combinations comes with all three numbers is approx. 0.6188957256.
Twenty sessions confirmed that: I reached the goal 12 times out of 20. IN TIME.

[MrJ]

Great post Dane.

"I am sure that the Casinos want us to stay as long as possible" >>> This is important. My unit bets are a decent size so I can hit an acceptable NET amount somewhat fast. My opinion is as such (example) >> You have 2 guys playing the same method.

Both guys have a goal of $1,000, then leave BUT I use $30 units and the other guy uses $5 units. That guy has to stay SO MUCH LONGER than I do to POSSIBLY hit that goal and as we both know, the LONGER you stay, you are fu***d.

Also, I would use flat betting only, REGARDLESS of which style you end up using with this method (your method).

I have tweaked the s**t out of the problem..... "waiting too long for a street(s) to complete".

I have more or less capped the waiting period AND the number of completed streets in any given SESSION.

TWEAK trial & error TWEAK trial & error TWEAK trial & error TWEAK trial & error (etc)

As far as having the time, IT IS A MUST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You cant be at home and half a** throw an idea together while you thought of while mowing the lawn, scrape together $173 and race off to the casino, smiling from ear to ear. You are doomed before you even get onto the casino property.

The biggie as always, no RNG.

Remember, when testing/playing a method.... you are looking for progress, not perfection.

Ken