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31 follows 13....does it?

Started by Turner, Nov 26, 03:36 PM 2012

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The General

Ghost,

The posts are supposed to be fun.  Relax, dont take it too seriously. 

Now, let talk about the simulations.  Here's  a suggestion...test the same number of spins each time you test to prevent any unintentional curve fitting.

Good luck,

The General. ;)
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nottophammer

More like prays,  please let it be this time
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DoctorSudoku

Nottop,
You don't have to just continuously play this method using R/B only.

Sometimes you get positive results when playing this method using either O/E or H/L.

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Quote from: Turner on Nov 26, 03:36 PM 2012
The old adage is even put forward by chatty roulette dealers. You always see 31 follow 13, 13 follow 31, 23 follows 32 and vice versa, 21 and 12 and vice versa.

I ran 10,000 spins ....

Definately is some naturally "hot pairs" that you should see more often than others.

According to the "lazy wheel of randomness"-theory (ok i just made that up) .. aka my small sample of like 400-ish spins that i looked at to see how ramdomness distributes itself on the 3 ECs changing, and discovered that:

(B=Black, R=Red, O=Odd, E=Even, H=High, L=Low)

- Rarest is that all 3 EC's change at the same time, like if you have just spun no. 31 (BOH) then getting a REL is rarest.
- Rare is that all 3 EC's stay the same, like if you just spun no. 31 (BOH) then getting another BOH (like 29) is rare.
- Common is that 2 EC's change (and 1 EC stay the same), like if you just spun no. 31 (BOH) then getting 30 (REH) is common.
- Most Common is that 1 EC change (and 2 EC stay the same),like if you just spun no. 31 (BOH) then getting 11 (BOL) is most common.

In this case then looking at those 3 pairs you mentioned in the first post:

- 31 & 13 (1 EC change) = most common.
- 23 & 32 (1 EC change) = most common.
- 21 & 12 (2 EC changes) = common.

So yes, Definately numbers that statistically should pair the most. Another 400 spins could prove me completely wrong especially between the common'ness of 2 EC changes vs 1 EC change. To step even deeper into gamblers fallacy you could argue that if you just have had a 31 & 13 pair (1 change), then the next pair should be a 2 change pair like 21 & 12 (aka its "due").

For Andre (and other people who like to bet large parts of the table): i noticed that 3 full changes happening 3 times in a row (aka BOH -> REL -> BOH -> REL) is extremely rare as it didnt happen once in the 400 spins. 2 full changes (aka BOH -> REL-> BOH) only happened 5 times and one of those was a BOH -> REL-> Zero). "A single full change" happens often & probably within the amount it should but can have large pauses without any and also grouping within few spins. However the "spread" between a single change (and the next change) may be worth betting on as that also didnt show a single time in the 400 spins (aka x "-change-" x, 1, x "-change-" x, 1, x "-change-" x wont happen  .. but  like x "-change-" x, 1, 2, 3, 4, x "-change-" x, 1. x "-change-" happens. Donno if that made sense  ;D
I am Thunder Pants

The General

Just a simple question.

Why should 31 be more likely to follow 13 than any other number?

What's the logic behind your wild idea?

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

RouletteGhost

Quote from: The General on Apr 03, 10:18 PM 2018
Just a simple question.

Why should 31 be more likely to follow 13 than any other number?

What's the logic behind your wild idea?

Now, I know you did not fully read, it is apparent

the original poster of the thread was just looking to make discussion, you know, what forums typically do.....

I know your mindset is to belittle people so that is your goto, but had you read it you would know that Turner said: "These tests show the obvious not so shocking fact that 13 doesn't follow 31 anymore than 12 or 23."

brains pick up on patterns, its what we do...so when we see 31 and 13 or 21 then 12 we think "oh thats cool"
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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RouletteGhost

Quote from: The General on Apr 03, 03:08 AM 2018
Ghost,

The posts are supposed to be fun.  Relax, dont take it too seriously. 



fun? like when Mr J feels defeated so he then threatens to bring out false claims about someone. so disgusting that all you can think to yourself is "that's what he is thinking about!?"
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

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