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Started by F_LAT_INO, Jun 25, 03:19 PM 2010

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F_LAT_INO

Quote from: pratikpop on Oct 05, 05:16 AM 2011
hey fella ..even though u keep on playing after u see continous strikes..to make more profit...u would be kicked hard my friend...most important is to know when to quit with this bet..
i normally quit whn i see 5 or more strikes...i usally aim at 30 to 50 units per session....whereas u wil quite often see more than 7 to 8 strikes happening...
Exactly like that....know when to stop......here is a weisbaden session my Cro.young fellow Dražen just send mi,pointing out whether this is kind of time to stop,have a look.And ofcourse I said yes.
You can always get me on  
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GLC

Wally my friend,


I have been thinking about how we can adapt this system to the 0/00 wheel and I think that Nathan Detroit has given us the solution.


If we take the way he has identified the sections on a double zero wheel into groups on the table, we can assign his numbers to A, B & C and get similar results as Flatino.


A= 1-2-3; 13-14-15; 22-23-24; 34-35-36
B= 4-5-6; 16-17-18; 19-20-21; 31-32-33
C= 7-8-9; 10-11-12; 25-26-27; 28-29-30


We play it the same way as the latest version of the PCWB suggests.  I think it's the latest version anyway.  We wait until the last 3 spins are 2 of one letter and 1 of the other such as AAB or ACC or BAB or CBB etc...  Then we bet on the 2 sectors represented by the 2 letters.
We stop betting when we have ABC or BCA or CBA in other words no repeats in the last 3 spins.  Whenever we get a repeat in the last 3 spins, that's our trigger to start betting again.


Our breakdown for the double zero wheel gives us a small advantage in that we can place 1 unit on the 8 streets to cover all our numbers whereas the single zero wheel requires 1 unit on 12 splits to cover the 24 numbers.  They have to bet 12 units and we only have to bet 8.


Any hit pays 11:1, so we net 4 units for every win.  That means we are playing a 1:2 bet so we can use any double dozens progression we want.  The standard 1-1; 3-3; 9-9; 27-27 is too risky in my opinion, especially since we have to multiply each side by 4.  That would translate into 4-4; 12-12; 36-36; 108-108 etc... as you can see we're already down around 400 units if we lose 4 in a row.


We could use the basic 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 etc... line.  Move 1 step to the right on a loss but you have to win twice before you can move a step to the left.


We could also use Hermes' "leveller" progression.  1-1; 2-2; 4-4; and continue to bet 4-4 until in profit.  Or 1-1; 2-2; 4-4; 8-8 and continue to bet 8-8 until in profit.


We could even use my progression for the Divide and Conquer system I posted a few months ago.


I think a reasonable win target is advised.  My personal preference is 50 units.  I haven't determined what the stop loss should be.  That is up to each individual.  I'm thinking something like 500 units should be enough to give us a fighting chance for a win yet keep us from falling off the cliff to total destruction.


If this performs anywhere near as good as Flatino's PCWB is performing I'm guessing that three 500 unit banks to start with should be enough to guarantee a high probability of never going bust.


This is just a 1st draft of this adaptation.  It will need a lot of testing, although what little testing I've done with Nathan's numbers are very promising.


GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

A couple more thoughts.


Since I have to play this on an airball machine that only gives me about 35 seconds to  calculate and place my bets using a fairly small screen where errors are easy to make, it is imperative that we have the streets for each letter memorized.


An easy way is to memorize the 1st number of each street.  That way we only have to memorize 4 numbers for each section.


A = 1, 13, 22, 34
B = 4, 16, 19, 31
C = 7, 10, 25, 28


We can make things a little easier because there are actually 3 lines represented in our chart.
B has the 16-21 line (an unnatural line, but a line nevertheless)  and C has the 7-12 and the 25-30 lines.


I'm conflicted about whether or not to bet the zeros.  If we use our purest logic, it's nothing more than a separate game played in unison with the PCWB.  If we were using the 1-1; 3-3; 9-9 ect... martingale, then betting on the zeros would make some sense to keep a zero from ruining our limited, steep progression.  With a more gradual bet size escalation progression, the zeros don't have so much impact.  I think in the latter case, we might consider playing a separate game on the zeros as if it were all we were betting.  We might have to keep playing our zeros game even after we ended our PCWB game, or if we have reached our win target, but are behind in our zeros game, we just take the loss.


More musings.

I just realized that I didn't mention another possibility and that is if we are betting sections A & B and we get AABAAAAAABBBB  we just continue to bet A & B until a C finally hits, then we will have a trigger to bet C, but only if there is a repeat in the last 3 spins.  If we get AABAAAAAABBBAC  in this case we would have a "No Bet" trigger and would have to wait until we get a new repeat to signal starting to bet again.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Wally Gator

Quote from: GLC on Oct 06, 10:46 AM 2011
Wally my friend,


I have been thinking about how we can adapt this system to the 0/00 wheel and I think that Nathan Detroit has given us the solution.


If we take the way he has identified the sections on a double zero wheel into groups on the table, we can assign his numbers to A, B & C and get similar results as F_LAT_INO.


A= 1-2-3; 13-14-15; 22-23-24; 34-35-36
B= 4-5-6; 16-17-18; 19-20-21; 31-32-33
C= 7-8-9; 10-11-12; 25-26-27; 28-29-30


We play it the same way as the latest version of the PCWB suggests.  I think it's the latest version anyway.  We wait until the last 3 spins are 2 of one letter and 1 of the other such as AAB or ACC or BAB or CBB etc...  Then we bet on the 2 sectors represented by the 2 letters.
We stop betting when we have ABC or BCA or CBA in other words no repeats in the last 3 spins.  Whenever we get a repeat in the last 3 spins, that's our trigger to start betting again.


Our breakdown for the double zero wheel gives us a small advantage in that we can place 1 unit on the 8 streets to cover all our numbers whereas the single zero wheel requires 1 unit on 12 splits to cover the 24 numbers.  They have to bet 12 units and we only have to bet 8.


Any hit pays 11:1, so we net 4 units for every win.  That means we are playing a 1:2 bet so we can use any double dozens progression we want.  The standard 1-1; 3-3; 9-9; 27-27 is too risky in my opinion, especially since we have to multiply each side by 4.  That would translate into 4-4; 12-12; 36-36; 108-108 etc... as you can see we're already down around 400 units if we lose 4 in a row.


We could use the basic 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 etc... line.  Move 1 step to the right on a loss but you have to win twice before you can move a step to the left.


We could also use Hermes' "leveller" progression.  1-1; 2-2; 4-4; and continue to bet 4-4 until in profit.  Or 1-1; 2-2; 4-4; 8-8 and continue to bet 8-8 until in profit.


We could even use my progression for the Divide and Conquer system I posted a few months ago.


I think a reasonable win target is advised.  My personal preference is 50 units.  I haven't determined what the stop-loss should be.  That is up to each individual.  I'm thinking something like 500 units should be enough to give us a fighting chance for a win yet keep us from falling off the cliff to total destruction.


If this performs anywhere near as good as F_LAT_INO's PCWB is performing I'm guessing that three 500 unit banks to start with should be enough to guarantee a high probability of never going bust.


This is just a 1st draft of this adaptation.  It will need a lot of testing, although what little testing I've done with Nathan's numbers are very promising.


GLC


George, as always, you're brilliant.  I'll be taking a close look at this in the weeks to come.  I'm out of town right now on business.


Thanks, Wally
A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

Mudiru

I read about 20 pages and got the idea then i downloaded CWB tracker. With this i have the option to select a system :
FURTHEST (ORG/MOD1)
MIXED (MOD3)
RECENT (MOD2/MOD4/MOD5)
MIXED (MOD6/MOD7)

Can somebody explain which one of these should provide a profit?
After 80+ pages of this system is someone actually playing this? I want to learn more if someone shows some interest.

From little ACORNS GROW MIGHTY OAKS. (Johnlegend)

Drazen

Quote from: Mudiru on Nov 11, 08:00 AM 2011

Can somebody explain which one of these should provide a profit?
After 80+ pages of this system is someone actually playing this? I want to learn more if someone shows some interest.


Many are playing this thing, as F_LAT_INO on his every day seesions. As you see it has several diferent bets based on same principal. If you want to learn, then read all 89 pages carefuly and you ll be fine. Beside that, author of the system, F_LAT_INO, attached many many real tested sessions for every bet in this thread. So you can't miss if you do some work here. It is most important to memorize the sectors. After that, it is all variations. Quite Easy when you grasp sectors... Some work, practice and testing will tell you the rest if you dont belive. Of course with strict following of all rules for every bet.

Regards

Drazen

Mudiru

I will try reading the whole 89pages but it will take me a day or two. In the meantime for those who use CWBTRacker if i start playing which one of the systems you suggest i should pick from below?
FURTHEST (ORG/MOD1)
MIXED (MOD3)
RECENT (MOD2/MOD4/MOD5)
MIXED (MOD6/MOD7)


From little ACORNS GROW MIGHTY OAKS. (Johnlegend)

speed

Quote from: Mudiru on Nov 11, 08:22 AM 2011
I will try reading the whole 89pages but it will take me a day or two. In the meantime for those who use CWBTRacker if i start playing which one of the systems you suggest i should pick from below?
FURTHEST (ORG/MOD1)
MIXED (MOD3)
RECENT (MOD2/MOD4/MOD5)
MIXED (MOD6/MOD7)


Mudiru not waste time reading this, and all modes are losers as well as the original system.. Try MST tracker ;)

superman

Quotewhich one of the systems you suggest i should pick

None, they all fail, thats why theres so many different modes, as it fails a new mode is born
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

F_LAT_INO

Quote from: superman on Nov 11, 11:59 AM 2011

None, they all fail, that's why theres so many different modes, as it fails a new mode is born


---Mudiru,don't take notice of these 2 comp.bots freaks,as if they ever entered casino and trie to
play instead of testing something on 1000000 spins victoriously declaring....IT DOESN'T WORK....
One must know how to play under casino conditions which is miles different from apstractions
Superman is boting here. 8) 8)
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

speed

I have no idea why you F_LAT_INO after all the tests and lost money dont accept fact (your system falls). Maybe you do not confess, but it is a fact. I know this is hard for you, but serious people after some prove that their system falls, they accept it, no matter how long they worked on system a one hour, month or whole life ...

Chrisbis

Quote from: speed on Nov 11, 10:45 AM 2011
Mudiru not waste time reading this, and all modes are losers as well as the original system.... Try MST tracker ;)

MST has CWB8 (Mode8) in it, and on average, it tends to do AS WELL as any of the other 10/11 systems contained withing MST.

So, having told someone to go forth and SEEK MST, which one of the many systems, would U recommend they use on it?

For me, MS4, CWB8, NS, WSM, and FMoDR are the best on there.
The matrix bets are so hit and miss, (for me U understand- I play RNG, which as we all know, isn't Roulette at all. Its a game that just LOOKS like Roulette, using the same rules, same pay-out,etc)

So, SPEED what would U recommend my friend? Huh?
Roulette..........................
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speed

Quote from: Chrisbis on Nov 11, 04:57 PM 2011
MST has CWB8 (Mode8) in it, and on average, it tends to do AS WELL as any of the other 10/11 systems contained withing MST.

So, having told someone to go forth and SEEK MST, which one of the many systems, would U recommend they use on it?

For me, MS4, CWB8, NS, WSM, and FMoDR are the best on there.
The matrix bets are so hit and miss, (for me U understand- I play RNG, which as we all know, isn't Roulette at all. Its a game that just LOOKS like Roulette, using the same rules, same pay-out,etc)

So, SPEED what would U recommend my friend? Huh?

hi Chrisbis
I'm not using MST for the real play, but only for testing System, so i recommend him only for testing because there is no wining system on it.. For me on MST best is RE system..

win999

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Nov 11, 01:06 PM 2011

---Mudiru,don't take notice of these 2 comp.bots freaks,as if they ever entered casino and trie to
play instead of testing something on 1000000 spins victoriously declaring....IT DOESN'T WORK....
One must know how to play under casino conditions which is miles different from apstractions
Superman is boting here. 8) 8)

Hi Flatino, thanks for sharing your system, don't pay attention to those guys, don't waste your time.
I'm using it at Marina Bay Sands Airball Roulette on Friday 16-12-2011 around 3 am (incase anybody got the same records u can check), it WORKS!!!! really well. I won only $402
Could've won more I lost on the Red n Black bet  :(

Here are the number:
19, 6, 23, 17, 8, 16, 20, 26, 4, 34, 1, 14, 3, 9, 31, 13, 4, 28, 11, 30, 19, 0, 29, 36, 31, 32, 28, 4, 12, 1, 29, 31, 5, 27, 36, 13, 32, 15, 11, 28, 11, 11, 5, 25, 10, 23, 9, 4, 12, 18, 2, 36, 4, 4, 10, 25, 21, 11, 13, 7, 34, 11, 8, 1, 12, 31, 0, 1, 5, 7, 30, 7, 26, 3, 0, 30, 25, 31, 32, 36, 24, 19, 24, 15, 2, 11, 26, 11, 4, 23, 35, 30, 16, 7, 4, 21, 25, 2, 23, 30, 6, 10, 34, 19, 17, 4, 32, 20, 23, 12, 18

by this time it's 5:25 AM already and I went back to my hotel.
Next time I'll bet more  :thumbsup: I use progression on loss (think I should have used progression on win too next time cause it Hit more than missed)

I did try to use your sector with other system so that i can bet less number or double the bet when it cross with your sector, and it only works 80% of the time. So when your sector missed my system Hit or when my system miss your sector Hit, when both system Hit I won double.

Thanks Again FLATINO :thumbsup:




Amazin

This is certainly the longest thread i have seen on a roulette forum. I still don't understand it but i will do some more reading. For now i just want to know if its still a winning system before i go head and read every single page on here

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