This is the same system as 2 PAIR just changed the name,moved it over here.
The system
We have 2 streams of numbers A- 0125678 11 12 >13 14 17 18 19 20 23 24>25 26 29 30 31 32 35 36 B-0234589 10 11>14 15 16 17 20 21 22 23>26 27 28 29 32 33 34 35
The idea here is to have 2 numbers from the same stream ,ex.2 and 11 this would be a trigger ,as you can see those numbers are in both A and B, this will happen,ex,9and 25 this is not a trigger,because there is no 25 in stream B ,9and 15 this would be a trigger.hope thats clear,lets move on.
1-Now once you have a trigger your going to bet on the last dozen that came out to repeat ex.9 and 15 ,this is a trigger to bet on dozen 2.
2-senerio ZERO when a 0 is present we stop betting ex,you have a trigger 9 and 15 and the 0 comes next stop betting thats a loss on the second dozen repeat what ever number comes next that is a instant trigger to bet ,as you can see that in the 2 streams of A and B THE 0 IS PRESENT,EX.9 15 0 3 we have a bet on dozen 1,hope thats clear
3- Now i wait for 2 LL before i bet,why you ask from my testing its rare that 10 in a row after the 2 LL ,i dont get a repeat ,but for the newbs,dont take that for the GOSPEL TRUTH this is roulette :lol: ,EX.2 15 Trigger bet virtual ,36 comes out thats my first L ,NEXT 15 and 36 no trigger start over the first L MEANS NOTHING,lets continue,36 ND 32 Trigger bet virtual,5 comes ,FIRST LTHE FIRST DOZEN DID NOT REPEAT.5and 32 trigger bet virtual 23 second L TIME TO BET on the dozen 2 thats it for that.
I will do some real ex later ,i will only play live ,thats just me ,i take no responsibilty of anyones loss ,Sogget i have those numbers from RNG IT WINS i will post later those numbers and show you how i play it. Warrior
I just realised that i put this back in the testing zone moderator please move this to full system thanks.
Warrior
Your explanation is clear, but what are the ">" signs doing in your stream of numbers?
Sam
No number 36 anymore?
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jan 05, 11:27 AM 2013
Warrior
Your explanation is clear, but what are the ">" signs doing in your stream of numbers?
Sam
I guess it's just separations of dozens
ah!
Quote from: TwoCatSam on Jan 05, 11:27 AM 2013
Warrior
Your explanation is clear, but what are the ">" signs doing in your stream of numbers?
Sam
Ignore those Sam,i was trying to type fast before going to work lol,i should of taken a typing coarse.
Quote from: starkygold on Jan 05, 11:43 AM 2013
No number 36 anymore?
36 is still there in group A .
Warrior,
could you explain why you think this bet selection has been so successful over 10,000 placed bets. Would be fascinating.
Quote from: amk on Jan 05, 05:24 PM 2013
Warrior,
could you explain why you think this bet selection has been so successful over 10,000 placed bets. Would be fascinating.
This system is based on sectors on the in side ,hence why its not for rng,and it takes advantge of repeats ,very simple,i just tweaked to play with the dozens.
I posted SOGGET rng numbers, why they did not show up is beyond me ,i will try again to poste how i play .
With this system when you get a repeat ex 26 26 thats a trigger to bet.
Here are numbers from smoczoor,although RNG, NB means no bet T trigger.
27
12 NB
2NB
26L
22L T
2 L-1
1 W+1
18 L
3 L T
18NB
3NB
18NB
20NB
31 L -1
5 L -2
4 W+4
18 L
1NB
7 W
11 W
13L
26 L T
31 W+2
6 L
21 L T
34NB
16 NB
23 W+2
20W
7 L
13 L T
0 L -1 stop betting
0 NB
3
22 L -2
20 W +4
Quote from: warrior on Jan 06, 09:07 PM 2013
Here are numbers from smoczoor,although RNG, NB means no bet T trigger.
27
12 NB
2NB
26L
22L T
2 L-1
1 W+1
18 L
3 L T
18NB
3NB
18NB
20NB
31 L -1
5 L -2
4 W+4
18 L
1NB
7 W
11 W
13L
26 L T
31 W+2
6 L
21 L T
34NB
16 NB - isn't here a bet cause 21 and 34 are both B
23 W+2
20W
7 L
13 L T
0 L -1 stop betting
0 NB
3
22 L -2
20 W +4
thanks warrior
the question above bothers me
basically I got it right except I didn't put in the wait for 2 L's - that's cause I just did the W/L to see if I got it right
I got it now, will run a few tests, thank you
edit:
if we have
L
NB
L you still dont bet here right? wait for 2 in row?
but if we have
L
L
NB
T here you would bet? right?
quick test
105 spins
ended +21 units
highest step was 8 (only once)
not bad at all
I got the hang of it, and figured out the questions I asked earlier, except the one marked in red
warrior
what are the results like if you dont use the 2 L's as a trigger? how long do the L's go?
Quote from: soggett on Jan 07, 03:57 AM 2013
quick test
105 spins
ended +21 units
highest step was 8 (only once)
not bad at all
I got the hang of it, and figured out the questions I asked earlier, except the one marked in red
warrior
what are the results like if you don't use the 2 L's as a trigger? how long do the L's go?
Around 5 or 6 time it reached 10, yes the 16 34 is a bet .
Quote from: warrior on Jan 07, 08:10 AM 2013
Around 5 or 6 time it reached 10.
you mean with or without the 2L's as a trigger?
did it go beyond 10?
currently after 300 spins I am at +57 units
when I get more time I will test more and report, so far I like the way it goes :thumbsup:
Quote from: soggett on Jan 07, 09:43 AM 2013
you mean with or without the 2L's as a trigger?
did it go beyond 10?
currently after 300 spins I am at +57 units
when I get more time I will test more and report, so far I like the way it goes :thumbsup:
My expierence without ,because i only tried it with the fibo prog. if we dont wait for 2 LL we can bet on every trigger but the prog.has to be less agressive.thats my take on this.
Quote from: warrior on Jan 07, 09:51 AM 2013
My expierence without ,because i only tried it with the fibo prog. if we don't wait for 2 LL we can bet on every trigger but the prog.has to be less agressive.that's my take on this.
but still, 10 is like nothing when we know dozens can and will sleep for much longer that that
I agree about the progression
I will test like you play with 2L's as a trigger and see how it goes, will report results
edit:
i tried using +1 on a loss, -2 on a win
got about the same, +55 units
the DD was about 65 units
but that is just so far, it can get messy if many losses come together
Dozens can sleep ,thats why the triggers in this system changes the dozens around so were not betting always on the same dozen .
To me a system should not have to long of waiting period before you make a bet,i only go to BM casinos, so when its busy it slows the game right down and boredam sets in,i try to create systems that give me more betting chances ,or else I'm just wasting my time,its very hard to make money in this game ,but i have fun trying ,so as long as i don't lose my house I'm good.
If i want to make this less agressive the most i would wait is for 4 LS and start my fibo at 5 unit.
ex 5 8 13 21 34 55=136 units
profit +10 +11 +13 +16 + 21 +29
It just came to me hermes used to use the leveller progression,thats antoher good MM that can work,waiting for 2LL OR 4LL it will take alot to break this one,it goes like this 1 1 2 3 stay at 3 until your in profit,you need a good bank roll,he used to say it would get him out of the hole more often then not.
Here are some results from a mini game that i played using the leveller.
LLLLLLLW -4
WLLW +2
WWLWLLW +2
LL W +2
LLLLLLW -1
LLLLLW +2
LLW +2
PROFIT +9
That was easy :)
Quote from: warrior on Jan 07, 10:19 PM 2013
Here are some results from a mini game that i played using the leveller.
LLLLLLLW -4
WLLW +2
WWLWLLW +2
LL W +2
LLLLLLW -1
LLLLLW +2
LLW +2
PROFIT +9
That was easy :)
nice :thumbsup:
warrior, can you take a look at this:
22
10
11
15
4
15
8
27
8
18
29
0
21
9
31
4
20
11
29
12
35
1
7
if I am not mistaken this goes to the 17th step
wins at number 11 and then all losses till number 7
can you please check?
Where did u get that horrible string of numbers from :(
Quote from: soggett on Jan 08, 04:03 AM 2013
warrior, can you take a look at this:
22
10
11
15
4
15
8
27
8
18
29
0
21
9
31
4
20
11
29
12
35
1
7
if I am not mistaken this goes to the 17th step
wins at number 11 and then all losses till number 7
can you please check?
15 is what i counted after the 2LL,that just means the wheel was being random,and thelast 2 double dozens hit without a repeat on the single dozens ,rng does that a lot more then live .
Let me tell you a little story 2 weeks ago just before chritmas i was working on a table saw, small one ,it was sitting in the garage for about two months while i was renovating,father in law was using on and off ,one day i was alone he had not come over to work ,i was cutting a 2 x4 in half the saw kept pushing me back ,could not figuer why it was being stuborn then it happen it push the 2x4 at me right out of my hands,then the saw fell forward, and being a coach of mma for years i had enough reaction to jump back so it did not cut my leg in half ,but caught my thumb and almost took it off rushed to the hospital but in the mean time i waited for my wife to pick me up,six stiches,i considered my self a lucky man ,the moral of the story is ALWAYS RESEPECT THE SAW ,roulette is exactly the same ,sometime shit will hit the fan ,and i will take the loss ,but i consider my self lucky more then not.
Quote from: warrior on Jan 08, 08:52 AM 2013
15 is what i counted after the 2LL,that just means the wheel was being random,and thelast 2 double dozens hit without a repeat on the single dozens ,rng does that a lot more then live .
Let me tell you a little story 2 weeks ago just before chritmas i was working on a table saw, small one ,it was sitting in the garage for about two months while i was renovating,father in law was using on and off ,one day i was alone he had not come over to work ,i was cutting a 2 x4 in half the saw kept pushing me back ,could not figuer why it was being stuborn then it happen it push the 2x4 at me right out of my hands,then the saw fell forward, and being a coach of mma for years i had enough reaction to jump back so it did not cut my leg in half ,but caught my thumb and almost took it off rushed to the hospital but in the mean time i waited for my wife to pick me up,six stiches,i considered my self a lucky man ,the moral of the story is ALWAYS RESEPECT THE SAW ,roulette is exactly the same ,sometime shit will hit the fan ,and i will take the loss ,but i consider my self lucky more then not.
yes, 15 after the 2L's
these are from live spins i downloaded here on the forum, DB4000 (dublinbet)
hope it doesn't happen much
If I didnt use 2L's as trigger I would be in plus even after hiting that loss
will see if it happens more
nice story, glad you are ok and still have your leg
and the "sometime shit will hit the fan" is epic and true
LLLLLW +2
LLW +2
LLLW +1
LLW+2
LLW+2
LLLLLLLLLLW-13
LLLW-10
LLLW -7
LLLLLW-10
LLW -4
wins= +9 loss-4 profit +5
2hr.of play is the most i stay at the table,progression leveller
But while playing this a bright light bulb went on ,i have one more trick up my sleeve,I'm going to check all my results in the last 6 months to see if this light stays on,then maybe i can say this is a constant winning bet. :xd:
First, Warrior, i wanna thank you for this great system, i play roulette from 5 months, still learning im glad to see system like this, today i make deposit cuz i wanna play your system, i think if i play 6 session on day i can make good money, but still im not sure for Progression, what type of progression play, i mean still Fibo or something other...can you give me a link for progression. My Bankroll for now is 100E i wondering can you give me some advice how to play, how many loose i must wait before bet, and what type progression.
How many must be my bankroll to make 50e on day and how many session must make. Thank you im glad to hear you advice.
PS: Sorry for my bad english... Good Luck Jordan
Quote from: warrior on Jan 08, 11:15 AM 2013
LLLLLW +2
LLW +2
LLLW +1
LLW+2
LLW+2
LLLLLLLLLLW-13
LLLW-10
LLLW -7
LLLLLW-10
LLW -4
wins= +9 loss-4 profit +5
2hr.of play is the most i stay at the table,progression leveller
But while playing this a bright light bulb went on ,i have one more trick up my sleeve,I'm going to check all my results in the last 6 months to see if this light stays on,then maybe i can say this is a constant winning bet. :xd:
very nice results
hope your light bulb works ;D
Well the light bulb worked ,but the waiting for the triggers are to long for me ,like i said i don't like to wait long for triggers makes no sense,with the same results i think i will stick to this one and play with the leveller.
Ok, I have done 1000 spins so far
with that one loss and waiting for 2L's as a trigger the score is +84 units
I am using the classic progression for 1 dozen - 1,1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,31
so a total of 92 units
I am amazed that without the trigger it doesn't go over 10 spins to hit (except that one loss)
so if I used only 8 steps and a total 40 unit bank i would be at +159 units
using the leveller as you sugested warrior I end up +63 units if I go to 10 spins or +79 units if I go for 8 spins
If I didnt use the 2L's as a trigger;
with leveller I am at +99 units if going to step 10
with normal 10 step progression I am at +399 units
do you have similar results warrior?
Quote from: warrior on Jan 08, 08:22 PM 2013
Well the light bulb worked ,but the waiting for the triggers are to long for me ,like i said i don't like to wait long for triggers makes no sense,with the same results i think i will stick to this one and play with the leveller.
share the bulb?
Quote from: lb_like_y on Jan 08, 12:20 PM 2013
First, Warrior, i wanna thank you for this great system, i play roulette from 5 months, still learning I'm glad to see system like this, today i make deposit cuz i wanna play your system, i think if i play 6 session on day i can make good money, but still I'm not sure for Progression, what type of progression play, i mean still Fibo or something other...can you give me a link for progression. My Bankroll for now is 100E i wondering can you give me some advice how to play, how many lose i must wait before bet, and what type progression.
How many must be my bankroll to make 50e on day and how many session must make. Thank you I'm glad to hear you advice.
PS: Sorry for my bad English... Good Luck Jordan
Hi nice to see you here ,my suggestion is you wait for 2 LL ,if you have 100E i would wait for 4 LLLL,and start fibo at 5 8 13 21 34,my testing was done with fibo but now I'm trying it with the levller,1 1 2 3 stay at 3 until your in profit or even,I'm using this to see what kind of results and how long it takes to get out of a hole ,the max i stay at the table is 2 hours then i take a break win or lose ,or if i made my profit that I'm happy with,to make 50E well that's hard to say ,15E 35 spins 25 E 55 SPINS ,but it does not always go that way.play safe warrior.
Quote from: soggett on Jan 09, 04:38 AM 2013
Ok, I have done 1000 spins so far
with that one loss and waiting for 2L's as a trigger the score is +84 units
I am using the classic progression for 1 dozen - 1,1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21,31
so a total of 92 units
I am amazed that without the trigger it doesn't go over 10 spins to hit (except that one loss)
so if I used only 8 steps and a total 40 unit bank i would be at +159 units
using the leveller as you sugested warrior I end up +63 units if I go to 10 spins or +79 units if I go for 8 spins
If I didn't use the 2L's as a trigger;
with leveller I am at +99 units if going to step 10
with normal 10 step progression I am at +399 units
do you have similar results warrior?
Im getting the same. :thumbsup:
Quote from: soggett on Jan 09, 04:38 AM 2013
share the bulb?
No problem ,i thought maybe because this is a system on dozen repeat.that i would look at the marqee for 5 not repeat in the dozens like so 13231, then use my triggers in the system to start betting,and see how many spins it would chop before i get a hit ,because if we bet the last 2 dozens how many time would it chop before you get a repeat lets the highest is is 20 spins minus 5 that we would of waited at the start and then begin with the system ,in a 1000 spins it went once to 12 before a repeat the rest stayed at around 5 6 8 and a lot of 2nd spin hits ,i did a 260 spin frames,with the highest of triggers being 15 ,so you would get on average 8 9 triggers in 260 spins.
I'm just going to throw it out here, you never no some one could tweak this idea ,
wait for 5 none repeat example 16 27 12 14 0 , now see if there are 2 numbers that match in A OR B and start betting for a repeat , same rules as the original system,but with a few different twist ,1 if you get a trigger and you lose, and theres a no bet situation,and the next spin is a repeat of a dozen you must start tracking for 5 none repeat again ,if not just continue with the system, if there is a zero in the tracking phase for your first 5 its a go.
THIS IS A IDEA I HAD WHILE PLAYING THE ORIGINAL, BUT NOT THE ORIGINAL SYSTEM you can play with the idea.
Quote from: warrior on Jan 09, 10:04 AM 2013
No problem ,i thought maybe because this is a system on dozen repeat.that i would look at the marqee for 5 not repeat in the dozens like so 13231, then use my triggers in the system to start betting,and see how many spins it would chop before i get a hit ,because if we bet the last 2 dozens how many time would it chop before you get a repeat lets the highest is is 20 spins minus 5 that we would of waited at the start and then begin with the system ,in a 1000 spins it went once to 12 before a repeat the rest stayed at around 5 6 8 and a lot of 2nd spin hits ,i did a 260 spin frames,with the highest of triggers being 15 ,so you would get on average 8 9 triggers in 260 spins.
I'm just going to throw it out here, you never no some one could tweak this idea ,
wait for 5 none repeat example 16 27 12 14 0 , now see if there are 2 numbers that match in A OR B and start betting for a repeat , same rules as the original system,but with a few different twist ,1 if you get a trigger and you lose, and theres a no bet situation,and the next spin is a repeat of a dozen you must start tracking for 5 none repeat again ,if not just continue with the system, if there is a zero in the tracking phase for your first 5 its a go.
THIS IS A IDEA I HAD WHILE PLAYING THE ORIGINAL, BUT NOT THE ORIGINAL SYSTEM you can play with the idea.
nice, thanks for sharing
Yes, i see how this would bring little profit and long waiting time
I will go over the spins and see if I get the same as you
little bad news, after the first 1000 spins I continued and in the next 300 spins had 2 losses :(
I will continue to go through all 4000 spins and see the end result, but either bad luck or the spins are bad
I like how it always stays below 10 spins to hit - except the few times it goes over
btw the first loss that took 15 spins - there was no repeat of dozen for 21 spins :o
Yes it happens ,but not shocked,sometime you will see the wheel get up and take a pee in the corner LoL ,now for some progression we can use.
classic =1123469 14 21 31 - good progresion
flat bet= 5 units for 150 spins who knows
fibo =112358 13 21 34 55 decent
rise and fall=11111 2222 333 4 6 9 10 14 15 17 21 22 23 25 26 28 31 up on a loss 2 back on a win ,until profit or even.its like waves in hawaii,but you dont lose bank roll.
When i came up with this method i was looking at something different ,like any methods on this forum your testing one thing and another comes to mind ,this is how this came about, but now im still not happy, in all my testing a 10 step lost on occasion,there is one more tweak ,without going to 10 ,but i need to go back to the original method with a flat bet to get my profit, and blend it with this method so my progression will never reach its destination, give me some time with this one,i no on its own this wins ,im always looking for myself to stay one step ahead of this enemy .
Quote from: warrior on Jan 09, 12:25 PM 2013
When i came up with this method i was looking at something different ,like any methods on this forum your testing one thing and another comes to mind ,this is how this came about, but now I'm still not happy, in all my testing a 10 step lost on occasion,there is one more tweak ,without going to 10 ,but i need to go back to the original method with a flat bet to get my profit, and blend it with this method so my progression will never reach its destination, give me some time with this one,i no on its own this wins ,I'm always looking for myself to stay one step ahead of this enemy .
No problem, take your time
"I'm always looking for myself to stay one step ahead of this enemy " - me too ;)
Well im taking the kinks out of this baby, this will be a flat betting system using casino winnings/progression only if we are down x amount of units ,my brain hurts with all this testing,but the combo idea i have is working,and im amazed im betting with a flat bet and winning,go figure :)
Quote from: warrior on Jan 09, 10:16 PM 2013
Well I'm taking the kinks out of this baby, this will be a flat betting system using casino winnings/progression only if we are down x amount of units ,my brain hurts with all this testing,but the combo idea i have is working,and I'm amazed I'm betting with a flat bet and winning,go figure :)
very nice
I'll help you test is as much as I can
Quote from: soggett on Jan 10, 07:00 AM 2013
very nice
I'll help you test is as much as I can
Thanks soggett i will keep that in mind,i want to see how well it does and if it can pull us out a DD,and how far down it goes. :thumbsup:
Quote from: soggett on Jan 08, 04:03 AM 2013
warrior, can you take a look at this:
22
10
11
15
4
15
8
27
8
18
29
0
21
9
31
4
20
11
29
12
35
1
7
if I am not mistaken this goes to the 17th step
wins at number 11 and then all losses till number 7
can you please check?
I beat this with a 8 step fibo. even though it went to 17.
OK guys i need more losing numbers for this system,to see if my tweak works.Also post them with th LW PLEASE
Quote from: warrior on Feb 04, 02:28 PM 2013
OK guys i need more losing numbers for this system,to see if my tweak works.Also post them with th LW PLEASE
How much spins do you need?
Quote from: warrior on Feb 04, 02:28 PM 2013
OK guys i need more losing numbers for this system,to see if my tweak works.Also post them with th LW PLEASE
ok, here are some, it starts bad, 3 losses in a short time, then it builds up again
These are some that I tested back then
sorry for the late responce, I was sick all week
hope this helps you
Quote from: soggett on Feb 10, 11:58 AM 2013
ok, here are some, it starts bad, 3 losses in a short time, then it builds up again
These are some that I tested back then
sorry for the late responce, I was sick all week
hope this helps you
Thanks won them all with 2 variations ,like i said on GLC post if you have patience to wait for 3 in a row losses and bet on the opposite of this system,meaning 2 dozens it will win ,3 points on this easy
Quote from: warrior on Feb 10, 12:31 PM 2013
Thanks won them all with 2 variations ,like i said on GLC post if you have patience to wait for 3 in a row losses and bet on the opposite of this system,meaning 2 dozens it will win ,3 points on this easy
very nice
So I can go through my old results, look for 3W in a row (trigger) then look for a L in the next 4 spins - thats it?
Only downside is a few bets in many spins, If I am not mistaking
quick look and just 3 bets in 150 spins
oh well, if it works I'll just use larger unit value ;)
Quote from: soggett on Feb 11, 06:54 AM 2013
very nice
So I can go through my old results, look for 3W in a row (trigger) then look for a L in the next 4 spins - that's it?
Only downside is a few bets in many spins, If I am not mistaking
quick look and just 3 bets in 150 spins
oh well, if it works I'll just use larger unit value ;)
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Yes on more variation ,when you have a trigger in a 10 spin frame bet opposite with even money bet ex.1 25 that's your trigger bet on LOW the only only time is when i get a trigger that invlves the second dozen ex.1 14 i will bet low or 1 22 i will bet high ,in a 10 spin frame ex.
i like to look for chops to end but they must start with a LWLWLWLWLW,look for a double WW to end the 10 spin frame ,i only had 6 chops before a double WW so here i wait for a LW THEN START BETTING AND STOP ON DOUBLE W,or look for 4 to 5 LLLLLS BEFORE HUNTING YOUR WS, nevere seen go to ten but you never know,try these variations with the original method and look for all these events to happen and you will getting more bets in ok WARRIOR.