Me i'm for getting out.
Winkel ? Who ?
more interesting a brexit would be fun
Boris told me, be better off out of there Hammer
Also he said George can't do his MATHS
I think UK and USA re-unite.....Its an old splitup ....I can get used to a Queen again
we are all one.
bohemian grove.
bilderberg group.
Queen? A rich woman with no value to you, who rules over you? No thanks. Wherever you go, it's the same financial system.
I read in the comic (the Sun) that we do more trade with America anyway.
are the "sharia" patrols in london? or is it hype? muslim violence against non muslims?
When at the night games on the Barking road or a saturday game its quite empty of them, different any other time. Roll on when we get to the Olympic park, go to the Aspers casino before the game, hope the general and Turbo wont be there
Quote from: nottophammer on Apr 18, 06:07 PM 2016
Roll on when we get to the Olympic park,
I see now, Hammer as in West Ham
in or out
OUT
It's a very bad idea to create centralized government. Why? Because it gives special-interest groups even more power.
Quote from: Steve on May 22, 10:46 PM 2016
OUT
It's a very bad idea to create centralized government. Why? Because it gives special-interest groups even more power.
I agree. Go Boris & Trump! what a bad hair day that would be.
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Hey, don't leave us, we've just get in!
Quote from: NextYear on May 27, 03:55 AM 2016
Hey, don't leave us, we've just get in!
Ny.....something different about you. You changed your hair style or something? lol
Coming out the union is unknown.
Its like all the Sun readers voting Tory then complaining when they realise it not aimed at their class.
Im voting stay.
And god forbid those 2 mad haired lunatics get anywhere near a nuke button
The worlds gone mad.
@Turner
Started growing up.
Hair - who needs hair ;D
Quote from: Bayes on May 27, 03:34 AM 2016
I agree. Go Boris & Trump! what a bad hair day that would be.
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Nothing in politics happens by democracy - it's already been decided long ago by the oligarchs. I thought Bayes, at least, would have been smart enough to have figured that out by now...
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=G02rYAXtJHY
Trump was already predicted in the Simpsons long ago! ::)
Quote from: falkor2k15 on May 27, 05:05 AM 2016
Nothing in politics happens by democracy
Nonsense. But there's no arguing with paranoia or conspiracy theories.
i would be voting for out of this planet ,had enough of earth time to move to diff one...dont you think
Quote from: falkor2k15 on May 27, 05:05 AM 2016
Nothing in politics happens by democracy
Actually, if you're talking about the USA, I agree. That's why Trump is where he is today, because many US citizens have woken up to that fact.
link:://:.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10769041/The-US-is-an-oligarchy-study-concludes.html
Quote from: Bayes on May 27, 05:37 AM 2016
Nonsense. But there's no arguing with paranoia or conspiracy theories.
Why do you make such assumptions? Can't you see that Trump is simply a lifetime actor put there as a puppet by the oligarchs to give people the kind of public face they want to see as weaponised anthropology/propaganda? Bayes - please be more alert and don't be a fool for government nonsense - it's all simply Showbiz to keep the masses contained via the mainstream media...
The oligarchs are simply a small veneer of individuals surrounding the Vatican who are driven by power and vanity. Donald Trump's personality and the ridiculous news stories published in the media each day is nothing but a reflection of the oligarchs' use of sinister ritualistic satirical dark comedy.
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=_wFsfE2mnkw
Anyway, I'm glad you posted that link because I was going to draw your attention to the same thing!
Quote from: falkor2k15 on May 27, 06:10 AM 2016
The oligarchs are simply a small veneer of individuals surrounding the Vatican who are driven by power and vanity.
Ah right. I thought it was the lizard people. Thanks for clearing that up. :thumbsup:
Dont forget the greys
Quote from: Bayes on May 27, 06:16 AM 2016
Ah right. I thought it was the lizard people. Thanks for clearing that up. :thumbsup:
Have you heard of the Black Pope? The Jesuits were founded by the first Black Pope/Superior General known as Ignatius Loyola whose dynasty were crypto Jews. They were the Vatican's army (or special forces) against the protestant reformation. If you get time flick through some of these quotes by past political leaders and influential people who came before Trump and other such puppets throughout the ages:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=PYOZY-DqodI
I can feel "man never landed on the moon" coming lol
Best bit of PR by the stay camp.
A multi millionaire buys a 12 year old car for his wife, come on Dave really. Your going to let the wife drive around in an old banger,pull the other one.
Quote from: Turner on May 27, 06:33 AM 2016
I can feel "man never landed on the moon" coming lol
Do you know about Stanley Kubrick and Eyes Wide Shut symbolism?
link:://:.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message432372/pg1
Many of the elite are based in Venice.
Some have speculated that Stanley K was responsible for the moon landing set.
Quote from: falkor2k15 on May 27, 06:38 AM 2016
Do you know about Stanley Kubrick and Eyes Wide Shut symbolism?
link:://:.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message432372/pg1
Many of the elite are based in Venice.
Some have speculated that Stanley K was responsible for the moon landing set.
Bang on cue lol
The united states government is run by corporations
Monsanto and the pharmaceutical industry line their pockets
They vote for the companies
We are only commodities
We are screwed.
Sorry to hijack this thread, but do you guys know why Nagasaki was chosen as part of the conspiracy theory that became true: the secret Manhattan Project? It's because Nagasaki was the place where the Japanese crucified the Jesuits upside-down and told their Catholic ambassadors never to return to Japan again... with those words they expelled the Jesuits and sent them away on their last ships, back to Europe...
link:s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-six_Martyrs_of_Japan
How many times have you guys seen the "All-Seeing Eye" in countless movies and cartoons?? Where was the "Illuminati" founded? Answer: Bavaria.
Check out what adorns Jesuit churches and cathedrals, including this one in Bavaria:
link:://photobucket.com/images/All-Seeing%20Eye%20within%20Equilateral%20Triangle,%20Jesuit%20Church%20at%20Landsberg-am-Lech,%20Bavaria,%20Germany
Who controls the Hollywood movie industry? Who masquerades as bankers, clergy, lawyers, judges (etc.) - who controls who??
Can I suggest " suspicious minds" by Rob Brotherton
Cleverly worded as an homage to Elvis still being alive
I wont spoil the book but basically we cant explain the big issue with one little mans doing. The magnificent event..for example. JFK assasination ...has to have a magnificent explaination
A great quote
"Ambivalence threatens our sense of order, so, to compensate, we seek order elswhere"
falkor, I though it was the Zionists, now it's the Catholics?
I'm really confused. :-\
Anyway, I think you should get out more.
I entertain conspiracy
Not as hard as falkor does
But i know for sure our government has been overrun. I know for sure disease management is profit and cures is not.
Quote from: Bayes on May 27, 07:38 AM 2016
falkor, I though it was the Zionists, now it's the Catholics?
I'm really confused. :-\
Anyway, I think you should get out more.
Since the Jesuits they have been Crypto Jews, but before that they simply used Feudalism in a Christian context as a weapon to enslave Europe before the overseas missionary activities began. The whole education system was founded by the Jesuits, including the earliest colleges and universities. The Vatican were the ones who created the Catholic Church in the first place - but look what extravagances Martin Luther encountered when he visited Rome! In fact, the Catholic Church was born out of a Roman government project by the Flavian family of Caesars to pacify the Jews after confiscating their Old Testament literature and then appending it with the New Testament as well as transforming the existing religion into Rabbinic Judaism. Christianity was invented beginning with the Synoptic gospels (c AD 80) under Titus Flavius - around a decade in the making - after the destruction of Jerusalem in c AD 70 (c 74 for Masada). Flavius Vespasian (Titus' father) allotted Rabbi Johanan ben Zakkai and his disciples, who had also defected or somehow survived the destruction, a place of refuge in the coastal town of Jamnia. There, under Roman protection, and perhaps guidance, the rabbis founded an academy for the study of Jewish Scriptures, which gained the name The Vineyard. This academy was the roots of Rabbinic Judaism. Flavius Domitian (Titus's brother) did the gospel of John and the remaining NT books - but with final contributions under the reign of Trajan assisted by the Pisos. In creating this literature the Flavians also had assistance from Tiberius Julius Alexander (richest man in 1st century Egypt), Philo of Alexandria and the Herod family, including Titus' mistress known as Berenice who had the cult of Veronica founded after her. Flavia Domitilla - niece of Titus or Vespasian - opened the Christian catacombs in Rome. The first pope (originally known as Bishops of Rome) was Flavius Clement who was known to have ties with Domitian.
link:s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Clement_I
Flavius Constantine was most likely descended from the same family - he began the edicts of the coloni that began Feudalism, so for the next 1,000 years Europe was a backwards nation, illiterate, and only the priests were allowed to study the bible. But come the time of Shakespeare people had already figured out Christianity was invented by the Flavians.... and what was the name of the first Shakespeare play?
Yep: Titus Andronicus! Whose hobby was catching flies? Domitian!
link:s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titus_Andronicus
Falkor
True or not you will drive yourself crazy with this stuff
Live your life. Have a beer.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 27, 08:35 AM 2016
Falkor
True or not you will drive yourself crazy with this stuff
Live your life. Have a beer.
It's Friday after all! :twisted: You coming for one? :thumbsup:
Quote from: falkor2k15 on May 27, 06:38 AM 2016
Do you know about Stanley Kubrick and Eyes Wide Shut symbolism?
link:://:.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message432372/pg1
Many of the elite are based in Venice.
Some have speculated that Stanley K was responsible for the moon landing set.
Kubrick's work is a rorschach test.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 27, 08:09 AM 2016
I entertain conspiracy
Not as hard as falkor does
But i know for sure our government has been overrun. I know for sure disease management is profit and cures is not.
You are from the States? That was another Roman/Vatican creation:
In 1790, President George Washington, a Protestant, appointed
Congressman Carroll to head a commission of three men to
select land for the “federal city†called for in the Constitution. Of
all places, the commission chose “Rome,†which at the time consisted
of four farms, one of which belonged to... Daniel Carroll. It
was upon Carroll’s farm that the new government chose to erect
its most important building, the Capitol.
Consider: the land known today as the District of Columbia
bore the name “Rome†in 1663 property records; and the branch
of the Potomac River that bordered “Rome†on the south was
called “Tiber.†This information was reported in the 1902 edition
of the Catholic Encyclopedia’s article on Daniel Carroll. The article,
specifically declaring itself “of interest to Catholics†in the
1902 edition, was deleted from the New Catholic Encyclopedia
(1967). Other facts were reported in 1902 and deleted from 1967.
For example, when Congress met in Washington for the first time,
in November, 1800, “the only two really comfortable and imposing
houses within the bounds of the city†belonged to Roman
Catholics. One was Washington’s first mayor, Robert Brent. The
other was Brent’s brother-in-law, Notley Young, a Jesuit priest.
link:s://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Capitol_dome_lantern_Washington.jpg
Quote from: falkor2k15 on May 27, 08:50 AM 2016
You are from the States? That was another Roman/Vatican creation:
In 1790, President George Washington, a Protestant, appointed
Congressman Carroll to head a commission of three men to
select land for the “federal city†called for in the Constitution. Of
all places, the commission chose “Rome,†which at the time consisted
of four farms, one of which belonged to... Daniel Carroll. It
was upon Carroll’s farm that the new government chose to erect
its most important building, the Capitol.
Consider: the land known today as the District of Columbia
bore the name “Rome†in 1663 property records; and the branch
of the Potomac River that bordered “Rome†on the south was
called “Tiber.†This information was reported in the 1902 edition
of the Catholic Encyclopedia’s article on Daniel Carroll. The article,
specifically declaring itself “of interest to Catholics†in the
1902 edition, was deleted from the New Catholic Encyclopedia
(1967). Other facts were reported in 1902 and deleted from 1967.
For example, when Congress met in Washington for the first time,
in November, 1800, “the only two really comfortable and imposing
houses within the bounds of the city†belonged to Roman
Catholics. One was Washington’s first mayor, Robert Brent. The
other was Brent’s brother-in-law, Notley Young, a Jesuit priest.
link:s://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Capitol_dome_lantern_Washington.jpg
I used to research all this
I found it causes more heartache for me then i need
Just want to live
Quote from: RouletteGhost on May 27, 09:28 AM 2016
I used to research all this
I found it causes more heartache for me then i need
Just want to live
My friend, the truth will set you free! ;) :thumbsup: And it makes you more alert so you can protect yourself from this kind of crap re: human enslavement! Escaping from the Matrix is the first step in discovering your true self.
Ive already separated myself
I eat as organic as possible
Reverse osmosis water
And i take natural supplements that allow me to be doctor free.
The vote will end in stay, why, too much money to give up.
Look who’s running the monkey house, the elite of the country. We’ve seen Mr Cameron multi-millionaire trying to look clever by buying a second hand car for wifee, yeah pull the other one.
Farmers saying can’t survive giving up there subsidies, don’t they use east Europeans for crop picking, who work for less than minimum wage, what does the framer pay the gang master?
We’re being told by staying the children will be better educated, be able to get a well-paid job, buy a house, with 1.7 million out of work and .7 million 16-24 year-olds looking for employment, currently we’re told there’s 2.2 million immigrants working here.
So by staying, how will your children be better educated, when more migrants will be allowed, buy a house when the young struggle now to buy a house.
I can’t see my own doctor now for 2 weeks, yes I can have an emergency appointment, so if our village gets bigger are they going to build a larger doctors, increase schools, etc.,
Hi Nottophammer,
You are correct in what you say apart from the result will be to leave. People are just waking up to the consequences of mass immigration and seeing the stories unfold recently in the English Channel are showing people how close to home it is. People are also realising that it is mainly self interest and twisted arm people who are advising stay. Also all the dodgy advisors from previous run ins eg: Euro currency/ERM are at it again. I would not trust any of them to even tell me the time of day. No one (either side) know what will happen. Trade could tank or it could boom. Nobody can predict this so it is just totally ridiculous to make forecasts. Same with jobs, house prices, interest rates, inflation etc. etc. The UK Treasury was so bad at forecasting that they took it out of their hands and gave it to an independent body. (OBR)
There has been an awful lot of selective quotes made. Remain are even telling us how much worse of we all will be in 14 yes 14 years time!!!! I am voting leave. The EU is a dictatorship and will only get worse. It has already paved the way for another 5 financially poor countries to join. Rich members are going to have to support them. We are already supporting some members. Enough is enough.
Hi Bleep
Yes hope we get to leave.
Be good get some of the old industries back up and earning. Don’t believe for one minute trade sanctions will be imposed, if Europe does there’s other nations. Surely it’s about whom needs who the most and this country has that word Great, didn’t need to be part of Europe back then.
How will we be worse off if the money we put in the EU stayed here, still subsidise the farmers. Have more money to encourage investment from abroad, didn’t we give agreements to Nissan, ask the Germans for the mini back.
Yes, how can they say in 4 or 10 years we’d still be in a recession? they don’t get anything right, look at the present governments immigration figures all wrong.
I think the real problem is that we're having a vote on a potentially life changing scenario and most of us are not fully aware of all of the facts and/or consequences of either staying in or leaving.
I'm leaning towards voting to leave, but being honest, it's from an almost totally ignorant stand point.
I sat down last week to watch a debate on tv, with 3 parties - leave, stay and undecided.
Far from being an informative and educational debate, it had descended into a shambles after about 10 minutes, with both the leave and stay parties, seemingly intent on slagging off the other one, or coming out with random scaremongering facts.
Staggering really when a referendum of such a magnitude is handed over to a largely ignorant voting public. Almost everyone I speak to isn't sure about how to vote because of the same reason.
I just want some objective information.
Im voting to stay. why? Because Its been what I am used to since I was 10.
I have a good job, my own house, been married 30 years next tuesday and have 2 kids 30 and 23 and a granddaughter
Life is good. I have expendable income and cant complain.
So it a choice between what I know and something I have absolutely no idea about.
Its a massive risk to change to something that has never been tried or tested.
All I remember about being 10 is power cuts and miners strikes.
Hi ewarwoowar,
There is not any definite information of any worth because no one knows what will happen in the future regarding trade, jobs, house prices, inflation etc. etc. No one knows if more or less immigrants will come. What will happen with housing, jobs, NHS, school places etc. etc. Anyone who says that this will happen or that will happen are lying.
I would concentrate on knowns. The EU is a dictatorship. It is paving the way for another 5 countries to join. It has proved that it is incapable of handling a crisis. The EU share of world trade has dropped by 50% over the past 20 years. The EU countries sell much more to the UK than we do to them. They want to form a EU Armed forces. It has shown that it does not want to reform by Cameron`s attempt to do so. It is the supreme court authority and we have to abide by its rules and decisions. The human rights act is a disaster. We cannot deport anyone. Immigrants are sucking hundreds of millions of £`s out of UK money by way of legal aid and translation services. We are contributing around £200 million pounds a week to EU after rebates. The Euro currency has failed, EU unemployment is about 20 million.
There`s just a few knowns to chew over.
If you want some more let me know
Turner, congratulations on your anniversary next Tuesday!
I'm sure that the power cuts and the struggle with the unions had nothing to do with the fact that we weren't in the EU though.
I don't think of myself as European as I'm sure most of us don't. I think of myself as British.
I'm certain that for most people advocating leaving, immigration is a major reason.
It seems crazy that there's so many immigrants working freely - and no doubt sending money out of the country to their families - when we have employment at the level we do.
People advocating staying in talk as if we'd be totally ostracised from the rest of Europe - as if there'd be no trade or as if they wouldn't want to trade with us. I'm not sure that's the case.
When I was a kid, we seemed to have produce from all over the world, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa etc. We don't seem to see this stuff any more and I'm certain that if some trading doors did slam shut, then others would open.
Quote from: Turner on Jun 02, 04:11 PM 2016Its a massive risk to change to something that has never been tried or tested.
We did okay when we were not in the EU, so why should it be any different.
Leaving the EU would not necessarily end the migration. There is always the example of Switzerland a Norway. They want to be part of the EU market, so they must allow free movement, so they are full of immigrants.
Sure, going against the EU sounds good, and I'd probably vote out, but I doubt too many things would change. Europe will never be like it was 30-40 years ago.
Hi Turner,
I know that it is not just about immigration but do we really want to live in a Muslim country which is what will probably happen. The referendum is not just about remain or leave it could dictate the make up of the government and policy for years to come. In my eyes the EU will only get worse and even more controlling if we vote remain. They may force us into Euro currency. We are already funding poorer member states and more are set to join. The EU already sets about 70% of our laws and more rules and regulations on businesses. You may be OK now so want no change. You obviously have not been affected up to now by immigration but you will run into it sometime in the future. I am fine also but am thinking of other people who have been affected by this. Put your own situation to one side and think of the longer term. The UK currently has a national debt of 1500 billion and rising. Do we really want to be paying a net £200 million per week to the EU and even more to bail out other EU countries. That is 10 billion pounds a year that we can spend on our own projects. Do you give your money to someone else and let them spend it on what they like (unless it is your partner) People like you are burying their heads in the sand. All the chickens will come home to roost eventually.
It must certainly give us the freedom to control our own borders though? Thereby limiting immigration. Why shouldn't we unashamedly say who can come in and who cant? Like a lot of other countries do by the way.
Is the immigration as bad as i see it?
Muslim no go zones?
Rich, there are no go zones in all countries all over the world. We are no different in that respect.
Muslims are just part of the migration problem. The other problem is that the country is losing its identity. There are many areas and neighborhoods that can be now mistaken for other continents. You get on a bus in the morning and realize that not a single person having a conversation in English. There is a primary school in Croydon for example where students speak 69 different languages. I heard some teachers in the radio complaining that they are no longer able to teach properly because half of the young children barely understands English.
I'm not the best person to have an opinion on these matters since I'm not British, but I did spend some time there, and I read the news every days, so I have some idea on what is going on.
Quote from: bleep24 on Jun 02, 04:51 PM 2016People like you are burying their heads in the sand
People like me? A tax paying voter?
My little toe has more intelligence that some of the clueless, Sun reading morons who are actually going to decide our future.
Thats the scary thing here
Quote from: ewarwoowar on Jun 02, 04:40 PM 2016Turner, congratulations on your anniversary next Tuesday!
Cheers mate
I bet you are glad Owen Coyle has gone to Blackburn. At least he wont be coming back to Turf Moor lol
You boys need another american revolt
Antartica has plenty of real estate
Yes Turner!
The Burnley fans are loving it and the Blackburn fans have started a petition to get rid of him already. It's not him they want rid of - it's the owners.
Going to be an interesting season!
How long till this happens, got to leave
Leave!
If the result is to leave the EU it will be tough in the UK for a couple of years but well worth it, in my humble opinion, to be back in charge of our own destiny and able to spend public money on our priorities without EU law courts, bureaucracy and the free movement of EU residents getting in the way.
Nick
Quote from: Nick-the-Greek on Jun 22, 08:39 AM 2016
Leave!
If the result is to leave the EU it will be tough in the UK for a couple of years but well worth it, in my humble opinion, to be back in charge of our own destiny and able to spend public money on our priorities without EU law courts, bureaucracy and the free movement of EU residents getting in the way.
Nick
Said by a greek..........
When you hear that the british are "revolting", it simply means they
are "disgusting".
Quote from: mogul397 on Jun 22, 09:53 AM 2016
Said by a greek..........
When you hear that the british are "revolting", it simply means they
are "disgusting".
please expand...why are we disgusting in your opinion.
I am hoping you Brits leave the EU, even with all the "scare tactics" being showing on the propoganda machine(TV).
Unfortunately, it will probably be another manipulated situation like the recent Scotland independance vote.
Best Regards from Kommunist Kanada
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 22, 05:50 AM 2016
How long till this happens, got to leave
even her majesty wants out, good on her.
Thats what the muslims want to do to Buck house
I would leave but its not up to me to vote
Let`s see....... It is not the votes that count it is WHO counts the votes.
C.U. Friday.
Quote from: Tomla021 on Jun 22, 01:24 PM 2016
I would leave but its not up to me to vote
And if leave comes out on top watch all the turncoats start saying oh yes i voted out, well heres mine
out, so you know where my votes going, same as Bleep
Nott ,
I would go along with your decisive OUT.
Nathan Detroit
USA
I wonder if Australians are aware how good an exit might be for them?
I was living in London when the U.K. decided to join. (I recall that there
was a referendum on that).
One of the first and most obvious effects was the disappearance of Australian
butter and meat from the supermarkets. New Zealand was given an
exemption for its lamb because their economy depended on it to such a
large extent.
So an exit might mean that exports of Australian butter and meat could
resume. Instead of the British having to rely on over-priced products
from heavily subsidized European farmers they could help us and themselves
with some cheaper food.
I have voted leave. There are a hundred reasons for leaving and not a single one for staying. The commonwealth are our true friends not these other European lot. We defeated Germany 50 years ago and now we have given in to Germany. What madness. I feel sad that we have not repaid the commonwealth countries that fought along side us: if this is how we treat our friends how should we treat our enemies?
I sincerely hope that vote leave will triumph not just so that we can get our country back but to black the eyes of all these experts, politicians, business people. I would not trust the vast majority of them to even tell me the correct time. The only consolation is that if the vote goes the wrong way then public uproar will spread through other EU countries and eventually lead to the demise of the EU, that is if the immigration problem does not sink it because immigration is here for many more years.
I have voted leave. There are a hundred reasons for leaving and not a single one for staying. The commonwealth are our true friends not these other European lot. We defeated Germany 50 years ago and now we have given in to Germany. What madness. I feel sad that we have not repaid the commonwealth countries that fought along side us: if this is how we treat our friends how should we treat our enemies?
I sincerely hope that vote leave will triumph not just so that we can get our country back but to black the eyes of all these experts, politicians, business people. I would not trust the vast majority of them to even tell me the correct time. The only consolation is that if the vote goes the wrong way then public uproar will spread through other EU countries and eventually lead to the demise of the EU, that is if the immigration problem does not sink it because immigration is here for many more years.
Leave. They need to regain their independence, and get their balls back, rather than letting others strip away their freedom. Giving up up your freedom in order to be "progressive" isn't smart. They should never have taken part in it in the first place.
Next they should focus on taking back the country from the Moooooslims! Seriously! WTF? What were you guys thinking? Why have you let them take over???
The vote is done long live Great Britain
Quote from: The General on Jun 23, 04:10 PM 2016Next they should focus on taking back the country from the Moooooslims! Seriously! WTF? What were you guys thinking? Why have you let them take over???
Because we're run by a bunch of elected cnuts, the politically correct brigade, who over time have fcuked this country good and proper.
Quote from: The General on Jun 23, 04:10 PM 2016Next they should focus on taking back the country from the Moooooslims! Seriously! WTF? What were you guys thinking? Why have you let them take over???
what a load of crap
what do you know about living in UK?
Asian population of UK is 7%, 4% are Muslim
Biggest embarrassment in UK is the right wing dickheads wanting to keep Britain White
Morons.
We are half Italian/Norwegian anyhow. English language is mostly french and German origin.
A complete mongrel nation since 2000 years ago.
If we vote "out" where do we stop. Perhaps black people next, then Jews.
The last one sounds familiar.
Any questions, please ask. Ive been here 53 years
Quote from: The General on Jun 23, 04:10 PM 2016Next they should focus on taking back the country from the Moooooslims! Seriously! WTF? What were you guys thinking? Why have you let them take over???
General look no further than reply 81
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 23, 05:15 PM 2016General look no further than reply 81
thanks...he should have it now
Hello Turner,
Sorry but I think it is you that is talking a load of crap. Where our language or ancestors came from has no relevance. I voted leave but it is not to keep Britain white. It is so that we can take back control (of everything) EU is a monster and out of control. I doubt it will survive because if UK does vote to remain there are several other countries who also want referendums (Italy has one in the Autumn) that will bring its downfall (if immigration does not)
I have lived all my life (71+ years) so feel that I have every right to make comments.
Chinese, Indian and Pakistanis in there droves came here years ago and I like them. They mainly speak English, they do not want to have their own courts or laws, they do not want to take over schools, they integrate with the community. Guess which immigrants do not fit this bill?
I will not be to disappointed if the vote is remain because then I will be able to laugh at all the things happening that cannot be blamed on Brexit, and make no mistake we are in for some turbulent times either way.
If we had decent leaders instead of the spineless morons we have it would be much better. Politicians are becoming worse. Cameron just wants to absolve all decision making to the EU and rubber stamp their edicts.
American Declaration of Independence has 1300 words: EU rules on selling cabbages has 27,000 words. Enough said.
Brian
Well said bleep, dont worry Miss Le pen will bring it down
Quote from: bleep24 on Jun 23, 05:53 PM 2016
Hello Turner,
Sorry but I think it is you that is talking a load of crap. Where our language or ancestors came from has no relevance. I voted leave but it is not to keep Britain white. It is so that we can take back control (of everything) EU is a monster and out of control. I doubt it will survive because if UK does vote to remain there are several other countries who also want referendums (Italy has one in the Autumn) that will bring its downfall (if immigration does not)
I have lived all my life (71+ years) so feel that I have every right to make comments.
Chinese, Indian and Pakistanis in there droves came here years ago and I like them. They mainly speak English, they do not want to have their own courts or laws, they do not want to take over schools, they integrate with the community. Guess which immigrants do not fit this bill?
I will not be to disappointed if the vote is remain because then I will be able to laugh at all the things happening that cannot be blamed on Brexit, and make no mistake we are in for some turbulent times either way.
If we had decent leaders instead of the spineless morons we have it would be much better. Politicians are becoming worse. Cameron just wants to absolve all decision making to the EU and rubber stamp their edicts.
American Declaration of Independence has 1300 words: EU rules on selling cabbages has 27,000 words. Enough said.
Brian
I respect your age totally. I have no knowledge of being 70+
I have my opinion.
I went to school in asian area. My school was around 1:6 Asian.
I cant accept my view is crap. i live here. Its going to be close.
There is no right or wrong.
Listen, 6 months ago half the people who will be voting thought being in Europe was about Butter mountains, sausage ingredients and cornish pasties.
Now they are all armchair experts and now can talk openly about their dodgy beliefs without looking biased.
The whole thing has been a disgrace...from politicians and the media
Speaking of Europe, its like the french making Foie gras by stuffing seed fown Ducks throats using a funnel
A 6 month crash course on the European Union.
Some dim minds cant cope with more learning than they have ever had in their life.....but they will vote.
vote bleep for prime minister :thumbsup:
Quote from: icashbot on Jun 23, 06:13 PM 2016
vote bleep for prime minister :thumbsup:
do you go to Grosvenor Casino at Strangeways, Bury New Road?
QuoteBecause we're run by a bunch of elected cnuts, the politically correct brigade, who over time have fcuked this country good and proper.
Political correctness screws up roulette forums too. It gives too much credence and protection to really dumb ideas, leading to an infection of ignorance.
Quote from: The General on Jun 23, 06:26 PM 2016
Political correctness screws up roulette forums too. It gives too much credence and protection to really dumb ideas, leading to an infection of ignorance.
You are really het up about the "no Caleb" area arnt you lol
most amusing
Dont both camps have the same sheet, so who's lying. Been nice if you could have it put straight, then the right vote would be won.
Why was we told a millionaire is buying a secondhand car for his wife, hope it dont conk out on the barking road, nice white lady for the slave trade
Channel 3 at the moment... Hoping it's a regional number not the total so far
Remain 19322 - leave 833
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 23, 06:52 PM 2016Dont both camps have the same sheet, so who's lying. Been nice if you could have it put straight, then the right vote would be won.
Why was we told a millionaire is buying a secondhand car for his wife, hope it dont conk out on the barking road, nice white lady for the slave trade
wish I understood any of that :o
Quote from: Turner on Jun 23, 06:56 PM 2016
wish I understood any of that :o
Turner they have the same info from departments, so who's lying the in or the out. Are they afraid to give the truth, like Bleep said we'll see in a couple of years.
The real winners in a REMAIN will be the the New World Order elite and the Bilderbergers.
Turner sometimes you have respect for the people in your town, but then when it comes to the foreign plasterers in your casino you call them some names i would not like to mention
Quote from: The General on Jun 23, 06:26 PM 2016Political correctness screws up roulette forums too. It gives too much credence and protection to really dumb ideas, leading to an infection of ignorance.
I absolutely agree. But remember the truth is really easy to find, for anyone who wants to find it. The problem is people don't really care about the truth. They may say they do, but don't because it's not really convenient.
Quote from: Steve on Jun 23, 08:23 PM 2016
I absolutely agree. But remember the truth is really easy to find, for anyone who wants to find it. The problem is people don't really care about the truth. They may say they do, but don't because it's not really convenient.
That's worthy of an applaud. :thumbsup:
QuoteThe real winners in a REMAIN will be the the New World Order elite and the Bilderbergers.-Tamino
You are so wise. :thumbsup:
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 23, 07:04 PM 2016
The real winners in a REMAIN will be the the New World Order elite and the Bilderbergers.
Correct.
I'm cheering.
You lucky Brits will soon have Kangaroo Butter
back in your supermarkets.
Quote from: nottophammer on Jun 22, 01:15 PM 2016Thats what the muslims want to do to Buck house
I don't think many people realize that anywhere you have a mosque you automatically get
a Muslim ghetto because those deluded lunatics believe that the closer they live to a mosque
the more holy they are or is it that they get to Paradise quicker.... or perhaps they get more
virgins.
Anyway the result is a ghetto around every mosque and that's not very good for integration
is it?
unexpected leave win---pretty wild
It looks like the Brits may get their balls back.
Quote from: The General on Jun 23, 11:38 PM 2016
It looks like the Brits may get their balls back.
You think they hit over wall too many? Nice neighbor now return. :twisted:
Welcome to a new Great Britain :smile:
Congrats to British self confidence.
Congrats Brits!!!
Recession, my trowel feels a boom time coming, you're telling me we're going to stop building houses, we can't keep up
Great result and vote for democracy. :)
Well well.....should be interesting
The result looks like Red vs Black after 63 million spins
Grats for Great Britain from Poland! :thumbsup:
Now go take back east london. Its filled with parasites.
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 24, 06:22 AM 2016
Now go take back east london. Its filled with parasites.
Bricklayers wanted in Carlisle i've heard, to rebuild Hadrian's wall :lol:
Great 'leave' result - at least we will be back in charge of our own destiny and if we do muck it up we only have ourselves to blame and not Brussels bureaucracy!
Nick
(Greek by nick-name only - British through and through)
global uprising against the established order, an argument he said fits in with his own campaign to shake up Washington by renegotiating free trade deals and stopping illegal immigration. Quote by Donald Trump
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jun 24, 06:22 AM 2016Now go take back east london. Its filled with parasites.
The East End has always been a melting-pot.
It used to be Jews who gradually moved out and up.
Then Pakistanis. Don't know what it is now.
Quote from: Ross on Jun 24, 01:42 PM 2016
The East End has always been a melting-pot.
It used to be Jews who gradually moved out and up.
Then Pakistanis. Don't know what it is now.
Well i can tell you what it is now. I saw people walk through east london as muslims shouted "jealous that its our country now"
Id have 0 problem with muslims if they ASSIMILATED
DONT COME TO the US and expect me to conform.
Quote from: Turner on Jun 02, 04:11 PM 2016All I remember about being 10 is power cuts and miners strikes.
Turner
You seem to be equating membership of the EU with the ending of
the strikes so common in the 60's, 70's and 80's.
If you are I can only say that your knowledge of your countries
recent history is seriously lacking.
Quote from: Ross on Jun 24, 01:51 PM 2016
Turner
You seem to be equating membership of the EU with the ending of
the strikes so common in the 60's, 70's and 80's.
If you are I can only say that your knowledge of your countries
recent history is seriously lacking.
My knowledge of my country history is by experience of living here all my life, unlike many here with opinions based on what they read having never step foot in UK.
No one is telling those people they are lacking.
Its my opinion
My experience of your country is considerable.
I lived in London from May 2, 1966 to July 21, 1998.
So I do know what I'm talking about.
Quote from: Ross on Jun 24, 04:49 PM 2016
My experience of your country is considerable.
I lived in London from May 2, 1966 to July 21, 1998.
So I do know what I'm talking about.
And I from 1963 to now. I voted in
I wonder how many people had shares who voted out.
Billions wiped off FTSE 100
It reminds me of those loonies on the American shows where they bid for a container when they have no idea whats inside.
I understand both sides but......it's gonna cost yall . :-\
Quote from: denzie on Jun 24, 05:32 PM 2016
I understand both sides but......it's gonna cost yall . :-\
Its just this Brit thing bugs me. "Britain Votes to Leave......"
there is no Britain.
Ask anyone here where they are from, they will say England, Scotland, Wales or N Ireland. We dont shout " Britain...Britain" like "USA...USA"
Scotland and NI voted to stay in. That will cause divide
Im not British, I am English from Manchester.
Manchester voted to stay in.
I think the Moooslim mayor's action on the billboards involving pics of women was over the top enough to help piss off a lot of people and helped encourage some of the voters.
Congrats on the Exit!!!
Time tell good or bad decision.
Quote from: The General on Jun 24, 08:04 PM 2016
I think the Moooslim mayor's action on the billboards involving pics of women was over the top enough to help piss off a lot of people and helped encourage some of the voters.
Congrats on the Exit!!!
Some real facts for you...not made up facts from people who didnt know Wales is a country in UK
Sadiq Khan is the Mayor of London
London voted to stay in 60:40
Quote from: Turner on Jun 25, 04:00 AM 2016London voted to stay in 60:40
London (City), Ireland and Scotland voted in I guess :thumbsup:
(link:://i.imgur.com/fUCJQv8.jpg)
According to some press reports the result of the Brexit vote is not binding. Then what ?
Anyone care to fill me in .
Thanks.
ND
Tom cruise has already asked for a "binding resolution"
link:s://youtu.be/KleseAAmUKw
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 25, 09:04 AM 2016
According to some press reports the result of the Brexit vote is not binding. Then what ?
Anyone care to fill me in .
Thanks.
ND
Its just an opinion poll. The government could just ignore it.
They wouldnt....
Mr. Turner
Thanks for your reply .This non binding public opinion poll should be a wake up call for the arrogant ruling political hacks where ever they are.
The people have had it .
Scotland voted to stay in because of all the money they get
from the EU.
The idea of an independent Scotland is ridiculous.
They rely on money from England and the EU.
Can't even produce enough electricity for their own needs.
Quote from: Tamino on Jun 22, 03:17 PM 2016
Let`s see....... It is not the votes that count it is WHO counts the votes.
C.U. Friday.
True, I think this was a quote from Stalin
Quote from: stringbeanpc on Jun 27, 08:36 PM 2016
True, I think this was a quote from Stalin
You correct. Quote go like:
“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.â€
Quote from: dimsun on Jun 24, 11:39 PM 2016Time tell good or bad decision.
Well my son works for a big estate agents,guess what, made no difference, still meeting targets.
Quote from: dimsun on Jun 27, 11:24 PM 2016
You correct. Quote go like:
“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.â€
Those who
pretend to count the vote (or ignore/announce different results!) decide everything! ;)
JEZ 'RACISM' BLAST Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn blasts “racist†migrant limits and claims immigration is not to blame for overcrowding in Britain
Mr Corbyn refuses to back down over row with his MPs
By TOM NEWTON DUNN, Political Editor
29th September 2016, 3:36 am
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IMMIGRATION isn’t to blame for Britain’s chronic overcrowding and it’s “racism†to erect barriers, Jeremy Corbyn has lectured the Labour faithful.
The newly re-elected party leader refused to back down in a fresh row with his own left wing shadow cabinet yesterday, triggered by his insistence that the open door for EU migrants must remain.
Why Labour wont be elected
CARE HOME PAY FALL
Care workers’ wages wrecked by low-skilled EU migrants as one in four employees leave their jobs within a year
Jobs in the care sector are becoming less attractive to Brits as migration causes salaries to plummet, say experts
BY LYNN DAVIDSON
29th September 2016, 12:22 am
WAVES of low-skilled migrants arriving in Britain have fuelled desperate staff shortages in old people’s homes, according to a hard-hitting report.
More than 80 per cent of new care workers are from the EU, Migration Watch UK found.
Its hard-hitting report points out wages which were already low are falling further as a result and causing staff shortages as the jobs become less attractive to Brits.
It comes as experts predict a shortfall of 1 million care workers by 2037, post Brexit.
Experts said more migration was not the answer to the staffing crisis in the care sector and employers must improve pay and terms for workers.
A Bank of England report published last year found migrants working in low-skilled jobs had a clear negative effect on wages in carers’ jobs â€" more so than in any other industry.
This study found one in ten staff working in social care was paid below the minimum wage.
Up to a quarter of care workers leave their jobs within a year, adding to the crisis.
Alp Mehmet of Migration Watch UK, said: “It is not right to continue to pursue a policy of importing lower skilled workers rather than looking at wages and conditions and making these jobs more attractive to existing residents.â€
So Jez shut the door, thats why we voted leave
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 29, 01:04 PM 2016Why Labour wont be elected
well...not by right wing nazis anyhow
Quote from: Turner on Sep 29, 03:40 PM 2016
well...not by right wing nazis anyhow
Turner you own a pair of hobnail boots
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 29, 03:57 PM 2016
Turner you own a pair of hobnail boots
No....I have more than one brain cell
not 2 like Mr J :lol:
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 29, 05:06 PM 2016
not 2 like Mr J :lol:
well Ill tell you where I am.
Everyone is a teacher. Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer.
I was put here on this earth to learn as much as I can before this short life ends.
If you let personalities or race or colour get in the way, it gets in the way of learning. You may as well put your own hands around your throat
you'd make a good politician, sitting astride the fence, will i be left or right
i'll say goodnight Turner, before Mr Finger comes on
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 29, 05:42 PM 2016
you'd make a good politician, sitting astride the fence
not the first time Ive heard that
Quote from: nottophammer on Sep 29, 05:42 PM 2016
will i be left or right
I dont care. Ive learned a lot from you ...roulette wise.
Ive always been a bit of a lefty. More so 30 years ago.
See the big money boys are still smarting from the leave vote.
The peasants of the UK came out and said leave, but the elite, the ruling class who wanted to remain are still trying to keep us in, so that their riches remain, they don't like the pound dropping, hitting their shares. So now its down to the dickheads who have know idea of living on shit housing estates, are going to vote whether we leave.
So much for democracy, when those we elect do not like what we tell them, we want to leave, so a group of unelected judges are telling us parliament has the power to say whether we leave or not, the majority of elected MP's by the way do not want to leave, who where the remain camp anyway.
If it was the other way, would the leave camp get to say in parliament what the remain are getting away with?
wonder how much the foreign office are involved, and MI6
oh the irony of the biggest leave campaigner becoming their leader. Beggers belief
The dynamic will change
Things will get worse before better.
Its like the recession of 2008, put down to the Labour government, But was it not a world wide recession. The ? is who caused the recession, was it not your financial markets? the big dogs(LOL) who invest in stocks,where the divided has to be offered and to maintain this ,they put up prices.
So who is doing all the bleeting at this time of Brit-ex, the big dogs, who see the value of their investments under threat from leaving the EU.
But has plc UK not been riding the crest of the wave for sometime, was plc UK, not (heres that word) DUE to fall down this wave, its been to long and with Brit-ex here now they have something to blame, like they always do.
I read that recessions happen in cycles ( perhaps Priyanka can help). Maths might say we got out of the last recession, but you ask the peasants of plc UK they wont agree.
Look across the channel that kept those europeans out of UK for centuries, have they recovered form the Labour induced world recession, NO.
So with the democratic vote to leave being contested by the remain (top dogs) what happens when they overturn the peasants (majority vote).
What if the big dogs then get greedy and along comes the over due recession, you wont be able to blame Brit-ex as your still in the defunked EU market.
Its the old saying the haves and have nots,
Quote from: nottophammer on Nov 04, 05:16 AM 2016big dogs
shouldnt that be big doggs with 2 g's? :o :o
see to or too much time out of school Brains,but with your ever watchful eye, i'll be okay. :smile:
Eamon and Ruth,with Tory boy and his side kick have just solved Brit-ex, it's still on but only when parliament say so.
Could my PA check this :smile: please
Recessions are in cycles, deliberately. It all comes from the control of money via banks.
Recessions do happen in cycles. People/Governments borrow too much. Crash. People/Governments start getting a bit of confidence back and start borrowing again and off we go on the next cycle.
US bank Goldman Sachs are generally regarded as being one of the main causes of the 2008 crash through sub-prime mortgage lending in US.
I voted leave in the referendum. I would still vote the same tomorrow if another vote happened. The EU is a disaster not waiting to happen but has happened.
Though immigration is a major issue making our own laws is also high on my agenda.
The High Court has said MP`s must decide. Why did we bother with a referendum then. If we do not leave I will vote UKIP at the next general election and I hope that Nigel Farage returns.
Seventeen and a half million people voted leave, a majority. It is mainly the better off/rich who want us to remain because it is best for them but it does not impact on their lives half as much as on ordinary people.
We are seeing the results of mass immigration every day. Crowded schools. Shortage of housing. NHS failings. Traffic congestion: the list goes on.
Brian (I could rant about this subject all day) It makes my blood boil.
Quote from: nottophammer on Nov 04, 06:49 AM 2016
see to or too much time out of school Brains,but with your ever watchful eye, i'll be okay. :smile:
I was referring to Kens typo in his signature "doggs" :thumbsup:
Cheers Turner :thumbsup:
Quote from: bleep24 on Nov 04, 08:04 AM 2016The High Court has said MP`s must decide. Why did we bother with a referendum then. If we do not leave I will vote UKIP at the next general election and I hope that Nigel Farage returns.
Seventeen and a half million people voted leave, a majority. It is mainly the better off/rich who want us to remain because it is best for them but it does not impact on their lives half as much as on ordinary people.
What do the toffs say, hear-hear.
Would a peasant say ,here-here. :lol:
Must admit most of my reasons are selfish for wanting to keep UK in the EU. I do understand UK wanting to step out of the mess that is EU.
However many of us smaller scandinavia & european countries counts heavily on larger countries like UK & UK services. Aka small countries dont have their own Amazon or Ebay but has to use the UK one. When UK steps out of EU some quite heavy import taxes suddenly apply. Same goes for export. It actually goes back a 1000 years from when the first vikings crossed the channel & taught the english old norse words like "gift" & "cake" .. and uh also .. "anger", "beserk", "raid", "ransack" & "slaughter". But now we are all friends & UK imports lots of bacon & sausages & Lego & whatnot.
Even just the news of the Brexit hurt the pund & thus export. Hopefully some local import/export agreements can be done or it will have even more severe longterm consequences. I mean no one will want to import a 10 pund movie if it costs 45 punds after tax+fees.
A bit off topic but then again: Canada & EU has just signed a trade agreement that could seriously be world changing. Remember a PC cost HALF in Canada (& US region) of what a pc cost in EU simply because of the import taxes. This certainly will have enourmous impact oh a scale i cant even imagine.
Boris, grow that backbone.
Tell the French fcuk off; shuv there shite cars and wines. We make great English sparkling wine that's as good as champagne.
The Germans can fcuk off too. Keep their Merc's and Audi's, shite old Riesling.
Suppose Teflon Tony will pipe up soon, saying we didn’t know what we were voting for. Fcuk off, we knew what we voted for. To govern ourselves, not prop up a crumbling EU.
I agree. Just tell them all to fcuking do one! We’ll be ok on our own. They need us as much as we need them.
Most leaders are part of the NWO agenda. They get to power with the help of powerful people. It's a miracle England left the EU. The push for global government wont stop.
Boris is turning; he'll do a deal.
Sell the fishing industry down the river. All the red wall voters will be pissed with him.
Just walk boris that's what was voted for in 2016.
Like almost every other "elected leader", Boris is full of shit, and does not work for the people.
There you go days have gone by. Boris & co, are still bowing to that French c-unt and German bitch.
Just run Boris, Boris. run
Are they going to have their lorries piled up at their ports, produce rotting, NO.
So, give them the V Boris like the English, longbow archers did at Agincourt
It's times like this that those who hated Thatcher the milk snatcher would welcome her back with open arms because she certainly wouldn't pussyfoot around with the likes of 'Rothschild boy' Macron or Herr Merkel.
Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 23, 05:16 AM 2020
There you go days have gone by. Boris & co, are still bowing to that French c-unt and German bitch.
Just run Boris, Boris. run
Are they going to have their lorries piled up at their ports, produce rotting, NO.
So, give them the V Boris like the English, longbow archers did at Agincourt
Notto,
It’s ok to be a loser in roulette but in politics too ?
UK is an Island but it must coexist with its neighbors
I believe the UK needs to get out of the EU. It's time for them to once again grow a pair and return to their former greatness.
Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 13, 12:40 PM 2020Boris is turning; he'll do a deal.
Sell the fishing industry down the river. All the red wall voters will be pissed with him.
Yes sold out
Teflon Tony Blair is on Good morning Britain.
It will be all nice, wonder why? I know he wants to be Sir Tony Blair.
What some one has posted on twitter.
Just heard that Tony Blair is going to appear on GMB in the morning ... Only place that War Criminal should be appearing is in a doc ! @GMB
As the cronies in parliament say, here, here
Tom hardy
link:s://tenor.com/view/ronnie-kray-wankers-legend-tom-hardy-wanker-gif-11676398
he wants to kneel ?? .. to a woman !?
what's next kissing the pope's ring .. or has he done that already.
Notto
Are you having too much free time to watch tv every morning ?
I thought you are busy with your new Zigzag sTRAGEDY.
If the curve still doesn’t fit, just pass it over to general, he will tweak it for u