Heres todays from the early hours.
Will tape jackpot joy on itv each night early hours in morning, to see if the auto wheel behaves like today
1 35 1
2 3 2
3 8 3
4 12 4
5 25 5
6 7 6
7 1 7
8 11 8
9 23 9
10 8
11 0 10
12 35
13 8
14 33 11
15 18 12
16 36 L
17 7 W +12
18 19 1
19 8 2
20 28 3
21 23 4
22 17 5
23 7 6
24 7
25 12 7
26 13 8
27 31 9
28 9 10
29 14 11
30 12
31 14
32 19
33 29 12
34 24 L
35 12 W +12
36 1 1
37 1
38 27 2
39 35 3
40 9 4
41 10 5
42 10
43 35
44 36 6
45 19 7
46 33 8
47 35
48 24 9
49 17 10
50 36
51 6 11
52 31 12
53 32 L
54 4 L
55 34 L
56 17 W +24
57 34
58 32
59 27
60 18
Heres the result
jackpot joy 23/12/2012 £72.00
1 7 1
2 13 2
3 32 3
4 32
5 32
6 36 4
7 34 5
8 29 6
9 27 7
10 14 8
11 20 9
12 21 10
13 22 11
14 8 12
15 36 1 win
16 16 2
17 3 3
18 33 4
19 36 X
20 31 5
21 16 X
22 24 6
23 0 7
24 19 8
25 32 9
26 27 10
27 0 X
28 12 11
29 21 12
30 24 1 win
31 19 2
32 16 3
33 4 4
34 18 5
35 13 6
36 28 7
37 34 8
38 32 9
39 34 X
40 1 10
41 15 11
42 31 12
43 24 win
44 8
45 24
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
On KTF win £50/60 stop using +1/-1.
GUT
Now the same numbers
As i understand it Winkel had to many naysayers to show how you could bet more often than just the crossings.
When watching the trot, i watch KTF which use spin groups of 10 ( didn't mrJ say he records in 10's),at the same time watch the columns 0X-1X->1, the others as they come,watch these with the LOTT,where Winkel gave the possible score on 13th,25th and 37 spin, 1 cycle of 37 spins.
Now i dont think he likes how i say theres a possible bet as its not GUT,
But at A i'm thinking it could have been 26-9-2, we are also 1 0X away from 12 unique,which comes next spin.
So the 12 unique the 1X's is now on, now the next 12 spins could see 7/8 0X's, and in the bookies can bet the 12 unique for 9 spins, so is this not a good bet selection? Answer win.
B, if the 2X have not gone 3X by the 19th spin i usually start to bet the 2X's,but you can see its happened 14 spins back,but to me theres a good chance that they could hit,but it already came so the oppotunity went away.
C, since the 13th spin, we've had 5 0X's by the 20th spin, so should we not be thinking about the 1X's, a quick look now at KTF shows 8 0x's have hit in 10 spins, plus 3 to me as nearly the games get 15 0X's in 30 spins, break this down to 3 groups of 5,
So i'd bet for the 1X's.
At the 36th spin is a crossing 14-14-9 Now its time to choose, go for the crossing or bet against, Me looks at KTF and thinks its got its 15 0X's,i'll bet against. Win.
Just the way i look at it
24/12/15 + £96.00
1 13 1
2 6 2
3 29 3
4 19 4
5 17 5
6 9 6
7 21 7
8 29 x
9 2 8
10 22 9
11 12 10
12 1 11
13 6 x
14 9 x
15 34 12
16 1 1 w
17 0 2
18 33 3
19 28 4
20 4 5
21 33 x
22 31 6
23 5 7
24 33 x
25 29 8
26 12 9
27 17 10
28 33 x
29 32 11
30 4 x
31 6 12
32 29 1 w
33 25 2
34 15 3
35 2 4
36 25 x
37 14 5
38 18 6
39 9 7
40 12 8
41 29 x
42 23 9
43 11 10
44 4 11
45 7 12
46 24 1 L
47 13 2 L
48 25 3 w
49 30 4
50 35 5
51 25 x
52 23 6
53 18 7
54 12 8
55 31 9
56 12 10
57 1 11
58 30 x
59 18 x
60 25 x
61 17 12
62 9 L
63 21 L
64 11 L
65 12 w
66 35
67 3
68 3
69 35
70 1
71
72
73
74
75
76
Bravo Notto!
How can one read your notes? It goes from left to right, up to down?
Progression +1?
Thanks
Merry Christmas and best wishes to you and your family!
Quote from: nextyear on Dec 24, 06:43 AM 2015
Bravo Notto!
How can one read your notes? It goes from left to right, up to down?
Progression +1?
Thanks
Merry Christmas and best wishes to you and your family!
If its the sheet thats for KTF. In reply 1 i said use +1/-1 soon as win? £50/60 stop. Keep The Faith would need 4000 units, so using +1-1 you have to KTF.
On this sheet wins £57.00 in 6 spins after the 1st 10 which is tracking.
any more ? just ask.
Those are the words: "Keep The Faith"...
And wait for Miracle! (joke)
Quote from: nextyear on Dec 24, 11:26 AM 2015
Those are the words: "Keep The Faith"...
And wait for Miracle! (joke)
Just avoid the 1X's, do you have a better progression to avoid those 1X's, Not a joke
Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 24, 11:47 AM 2015
Just avoid the 1X's, do you have a better progression to avoid those 1X's, Not a joke
Let's go slowly: what is 1X's?
What is 8+15=23?
Is there special reason that you have numbers printed 147....258.....369 as in Columns?
How you get that chart with numbers?
And do you analyze spins live, or this is made after the session?
Thanks
And what is AMK from 123 topic, as I am lazy to read 1.000 posts to find it...
Thanks again
Quote from: nextyear on Dec 24, 01:38 PM 2015
And what is AMK from 123 topic, as I am lazy to read 1.000 posts to find it...
Thanks again
Amk made method long time ago. Take 4 past dozens now bet against opposite
3
2
3
1
Now bet against
1
3
2
3
He said in 123 thread its still a winner
Laziness? Not for this game
Thanks RG, I'll make it mine New Year's resolution to be more diligence...
My new years resolution is to win
Here is AMKs method from way back when
If you fancy grassroots then its good but if you dont like grassroots i dont think you'll like this
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=7269.0 (link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=7269.0)
Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 22, 08:46 AM 2015
Heres todays from the early hours.
Will tape jackpot joy on itv each night early hours in morning, to see if the auto wheel behaves like today
1 35 1
2 3 2
3 8 3
4 12 4
5 25 5
6 7 6
7 1 7
8 11 8
9 23 9
10 8
11 0 10
12 35
13 8
14 33 11
15 18 12
16 36 L
17 7 W +12
18 19 1
19 8 2
20 28 3
21 23 4
22 17 5
23 7 6
24 7
25 12 7
26 13 8
27 31 9
28 9 10
29 14 11
30 12
31 14
32 19
33 29 12
34 24 L
35 12 W +12
36 1 1
37 1
38 27 2
39 35 3
40 9 4
41 10 5
42 10
43 35
44 36 6
45 19 7
46 33 8
47 35
48 24 9
49 17 10
50 36
51 6 11
52 31 12
53 32 L
54 4 L
55 34 L
56 17 W +24
57 34
58 32
59 27
60 18
1 35 1
2 3 2
3 8 3
4 12 4
5 25 5
6 7 6
7 1 7
8 11 8
9 23 9
10 8 9 of the 37 gone bet 28
11 0 10 10 1 28 36
12 35 R 1 27
13 8 R 2 54
14 33 11 11 3 81 108
15 18 12 12 2 52 72
16 36 L 13 1 25 36
17 7 W +12 R 1 24
18 19 1 14 2 48 72
19 8 2 R 1 23
20 28 3 15 2 46 72
21 23 4 R 1 22
22 17 5 16 2 44 72 474 out 468 return -£6
23 7 6 R 1 21
24 7 R 2 42
25 12 7 R 3 63
26 13 8 17 4 84 144 684 out 612 return -£72
27 31 9 18 3 60 108 744 out 720 return -£ 24
28 9 10 19 2 38 72 782 out 792 return +£10
29 14 11 20 1 18 36 800 out 828 return +£ 28 I'd restart here.
30 12 R 1 17
31 14 R 2 34
32 19 R 3 51
33 29 12 21 4 68 144 970 out 972 return +£2
34 24 L 22 3 48 108 1018 out 1080 return +£62
35 12 W +12
36 1 1 Well +1/-1 handled the repeats
37 1 we've had 13 wins in 24 spins
38 27 2
39 35 3
40 9 4
41 10 5
42 10
43 35
44 36 6
45 19 7
46 33 8
47 35
48 24 9
49 17 10
50 36
51 6 11
52 31 12
53 32 L
54 4 L
55 34 L
56 17 W +24
57 34
58 32
59 27
60 18
Jackpot Joy 27.12.15 43 spins +£48.00
I'll also put the sheet for KTF remember £50/60 stop, makes £57.00 in 6 spins
1 30 1
2 31 2
3 31 x
4 13 3
5 27 4
6 8 5
7 18 6
8 35 7
9 21 8
10 8 x
11 15 9
12 23 10
13 3 11
14 34 12 heres the 12 unique
15 0 1 L
16 29 2 L
17 35 3 W +24
18 29 x
19 9 4
20 16 5
21 15 6
22 14 7
23 10 8
24 19 9
25 22 10
26 24 11
27 29 x
28 0 x
29 22 x
30 9 x
31 15 x
32 10 x
33 36 12 heres 12 unique
34 6 1 L
35 23 2 L
36 12 3 L
37 29 4 W +24
38 23 x
39 3 5
40 16 6
41 21 7
42 31 8
43 9 9
44
45
46
47
48
49
50
51
52
53
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
Jackpot Joy 28.12.15 1st 12#'s in X spins 60 spins + £60.00
KTF +£ 52.00 at number 8 13th spin of betting. 9 out of 10,1st 10 spins, at 40th spin could see 9+15=24. Gets 18#'s in 30spins
1 30 1
2 24 2
3 19 3
4 12 4
5 13 5
6 30 x
7 29 6
8 26 7
9 1 8
10 11 9
11 26 x
12 14 10
13 13 x
14 21 11
15 5 12
16 16 1 L
17 11 2 w +12
18 10 3
19 23 4
20 35 5
21 14 6
22 25 7
23 8 8
24 20 9
25 8 x
26 0 10
27 15 11
28 6 12
29 26 1 L
30 17 2 L
31 26 x L
32 31 3 L
33 6 4 w +12
34 2 5
35 20 6
36 21 7
37 35 8
38 33 9
39 34 10
40 5 11
41 2 12
42 31 1 w +24
43 30 2
44 13 3
45 23 4
46 8 5
47 27 6
48 22 7
49 9 8
50 17 9
51 22 x
52 28 10
53 0 11
54 1 12
55 3 L
56 22 w +12
57 3
58 6
59 17
60 21
Jackpot Joy 29.12.15 1st 12#'s in X spins 60 spins + £72.00
KTF +59 at 4, 16th number to hit. The 6 before would be +45 so just £5 short of the £50/60, so one could take that.
1 36 1
2 17 2
3 2 3
4 8 4
5 26 5
6 23 6
7 25 7
8 13 8
9 35 9
10 20 10
11 15 11
12 32 12
13 0 1 l
14 30 2 l
15 20 3 w +24
16 6 4
17 4 5
18 34 6
19 7 7
20 29 8
21 6 x
22 1 9
23 17 10
24 13 11
25 6 x
26 22 12
27 5 1 l
28 7 2 w +12
29 13 3
30 35 4
31 20 5
32 7 x
33 30 6
34 16 7
35 22 8
36 6 9
37 12 10
38 5 x
39 15 11
40 33 12
41 17 1 l
42 24 2 l
43 18 3 l
44 13 4 w +24
45 18 x
46 1 5
47 29 6
48 0 7
49 0 x
50 31 8
51 26 9
52 34 10
53 10 11
54 14 12
55 35 l
56 23 l
57 25 l
58 30 l
59 29 w +12
60 29
Jackpot joy 30.12.15 -£660.00
1st loss today
KTF +£50.00 Remember any where near to £50/60 stop. Yesterday the win before £59.00 was £45.00 so you might decide to stop then, your choice.
1 20 1
2 32 2
3 36 3
4 28 4
5 15 5
6 1 6
7 25 7
8 5 8
9 33 9
10 35 10
11 35 x
12 15 x
13 13 11
14 19 12
15 0 1 L
16 23 2 L
17 8 3 L
18 23 x L
19 2 4 L
20 23 x L
21 4 5 L
22 29 6 L
23 34 7 L -732
24 0 x
25 23 x
26 9 8
27 8 x
28 31 9
29 9 x
30 11 10
31 18 11
32 14 12
33 11 1 w 24
34 19 2
35 33 3
36 23 4
37 9 5
38 29 6
39 12 7
40 27 8
41 13 9
42 19 x
43 24 10
44 7 11
45 1 12
46 2 1 L
47 32 2 L
48 26 3 L
49 23 4 L
50 18 5 L
51 4 6 L
52 0 7 L
53 30 8 L
54 13 9 w 24
55 35 10
56 11 11
57 18 x
58 10 12
59 18 1 w 24
60 8 2
61 8 x
62 3 3
63 10 4
64 25 5
65 34 6
66 8 x
67 35 7
68 9 8
69 33 9
70 23 10
71 31 11
72 20 12
73 6
Just do only 3 bets...
L -12
L -12
L -24
Wait till next 12 but continu your progression!
W +36
Sorry for Loss, Notto. You play with real money, yes?
What kind of game is Jackpot joy? I mean some machine, or?
Money, not on jackpot joy, Jackpot joy is an on line roulette company, that airs on ITV, various times in the early hours for 90 mins and sometimes longer say 3hours.
Just testing on a live show that uses air ball auto. Money is used in licensed bookmakers,the dreaded RNG,
Jackpot joy 31.12.15 +£60.00 Raymanz idea did the job as well :thumbsup:
KTF +£50.00 in 5 spins
1 4 1
2 23 2
3 33 3
4 36 4
5 36 x
6 30 5
7 5 6
8 28 7
9 1 8
10 13 9
11 6 10
12 27 11
13 20 12
14 29 1 L
15 24 2 L
16 28 3 w 24
17 6 4
18 19 5
19 13 6
20 32 7
21 29 x
22 15 8
23 15 x
24 31 9
25 15 x
26 26 10
27 22 11
28 9 12
29 16 1 L
30 23 2 L
31 33 3 L
32 0 4 L
33 5 5 L
34 18 6 L
35 13 7 w 12
36 12 8
37 4 9
38 4 x
39 16 x
40 7 10
41 3 11
42 7 x
43 32 12
44 10 1 L
45 5 2 w 12
46 7 3
47 33 4
48 33 x
49 10 x
50 21 5
51 12 6
52 10 x
53 12 x
54 1 7
55 18 8
56 29 9
57 1 x
58 5 x
59 15 10
60 15 x
61 28 11
62 5 x
63 9 12
64 4 L
65 1 w 12
66 30
67 0
68 25
69 29
70 17
71 26
72 23
73 18
74 8
75 23
Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 30, 07:32 AM 2015
Money, not on jackpot joy, Jackpot joy is an on line roulette company, that airs on ITV, various times in the early hours for 90 mins and sometimes longer say 3hours.
Just testing on a live show that uses air ball auto. Money is used in licensed bookmakers,the dreaded RNG,
Sorry, I still don't get it: if you watch it on TV - how can you make bets?
Next year i record the show, then copy the numbers to the sheet.
Now i can see how 1st 12#'s in X spins goes. No point playing some thing if you dont test it first.
The sheet is playing the numbers of the mat (keep the faith), now i do play this, in uk bookmakers RNG
Aha, glad you didn't lose your money after all!!
Next Jackpot joy not untill Saturday, On sky channel 178
Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 30, 06:31 AM 2015
Jackpot joy 30.12.15 -£660.00
1st loss today
KTF +£50.00 Remember any where near to £50/60 stop. Yesterday the win before £59.00 was £45.00 so you might decide to stop then, your choice.
1 20 1
2 32 2
3 36 3
4 28 4
5 15 5
6 1 6
7 25 7
8 5 8
9 33 9
10 35 10
11 35 x
12 15 x
13 13 11
14 19 12
15 0 1 L 12
16 23 2 L 12
17 8 3 L 24
18 23 x L
19 2 4 L
20 23 x L
21 4 5 L
22 29 6 L
23 34 7 L -732
24 0 x
25 23 x
26 9 8
27 8 x
28 31 9
29 9 x
30 11 10
31 18 11
32 14 12
33 11 1 w 24 from above 12+12+24, +36 win +24 reset to 12
34 19 2
35 33 3
36 23 4
37 9 5
38 29 6
39 12 7
40 27 8
41 13 9
42 19 x
43 24 10
44 7 11
45 1 12
46 2 1 L 12
47 32 2 L 12
48 26 3 L 24
49 23 4 L
50 18 5 L
51 4 6 L
52 0 7 L
53 30 8 L
54 13 9 w 24
55 35 10
56 11 11
57 18 x
58 10 12
59 18 1 w 24 from above 12+12+24, +36 win +24 reset to 12
60 8 2
61 8 x
62 3 3
63 10 4
64 25 5
65 34 6
66 8 x
67 35 7
68 9 8
69 33 9
70 23 10
71 31 11
72 20 12
73 6
Nice Raymanz would made +£48, with your bet 3 times, if lose, bet next part of progression for next 3 spins. Think Jimmie B said this as well.
Will need to relook over old data.
Jackpot Joy 2.1.16 +£72.00
KTF £56.00 at #19 13th spin of betting. See attached
1 27 1
2 20 2
3 25 3
4 23 4
5 6 5
6 20 x
7 13 6
8 28 7
9 17 8
10 26 9
11 26 x
12 14 10
13 0 11
14 18 12
15 13 1 w 24
16 3 2
17 11 3
18 14 4
19 4 5
20 27 6
21 34 7
22 29 8
23 19 9
24 2 10
25 26 11
26 22 12
27 18 1 L
28 19 2 w 12
29 31 3
30 32 4
31 6 5
32 9 6
33 13 7
34 17 8
35 2 9
36 27 10
37 0 11
38 21 12
39 4 1 L
40 18 2 w 12
41 31 3
42 8 4
43 6 5
44 14 6
45 11 7
46 12 8
47 18 x
48 33 9
49 29 10
50 19 11
51 16 12
52 2 L
53 5 L
54 4 w 24
55 27
56 13
57 33
58 16
59 3
60
Jackpot joy 3.1.16 +£108
KTF +£65 at #6 45th spin of betting.
1 1 1
2 17 2
3 27 3
4 29 4
5 3 5
6 12 6
7 2 7
8 31 8
9 17 x
10 18 9
11 27 x
12 17 x
13 28 10
14 15 11
15 4 12
16 1 1 w 24
17 1 x
18 20 2
19 29 3
20 24 4
21 29 x
22 9 5
23 26 6
24 25 7
25 0 8
26 3 9
27 14 10
28 4 11
29 29 x
30 20 x
31 4 x
32 31 12
33 9 1 w 24
34 10 2
35 31 3
36 15 4
37 17 5
38 13 6
39 22 7
40 8 8
41 11 9
42 17 x
43 2 10
44 22 x
45 4 11
46 23 12
47 4 1 w 24
48 9 2
49 10 3
50 19 4
51 26 5
52 1 6
53 28 7
54 35 8
55 6 9
56 10 x
57 25 10
58 13 11
59 33 12
60 29 1 L 12
61 8 2 L 12
62 22 3 L 24
63 11 4 L 36
64 24 5 L 48
65 0 6 L 72
66 12 7 L 108
67 4 8 w 168 24
68 11 x
69 24 x
70 10 9
71 0 x
72 26 10
73 7 11
74 25 12
75 23 L 12
76 9 L 12
77 27 L 24
78 2 L 36
79 24 w 48 12
Heres numbers from above
just an observation for a bet
1 1
2 17
3 27
4 29
5 3 1st 18 col 3
6 12 1st 18 col 3 now bet 2nd 18
7 2 L
8 31 W
9 17
10 18
11 27
12 17
13 28
14 15
15 4 1st 18 col 1
16 1 1st 18 col 1 bet 2nd 18
17 1 L
18 20 w 2nd 18 col2
19 29 2nd 18 col2 bet 1st 18
20 24 L
21 29 L
22 9 W
23 26
24 25
25 0
26 3
27 14
28 4
29 29 2nd 18 col2
30 20 2nd 18 col2 bet 1st 18
31 4 w
32 31
33 9
34 10
35 31
36 15
37 17
38 13
39 22
40 8 1st 18 col 2
41 11 1st 18 col 2 bet 2nd 18
42 17 L 1st 18 col 2
43 2 L 1st 18 col 2
44 22 W
45 4 5 bets all winners amazing VOODOO
46 23
47 4
48 9
49 10
50 19
51 26
52 1
53 28
54 35
55 6
56 10
57 25
58 13
59 33
60 29
61 8
62 22
63 11
64 24
65 0
66 12
67 4
68 11
69 24
70 10
71 0
72 26
73 7
74 25
75 23
76 9
77 27
78 2
79 24
Hey notto
We wait for 12 unique. Then we bet them hoping for a repeat
So heres a series. What numbers would you bet
3
19
13
33
27
1
3
6
17
32
31
29
12
14
16
3 does not qualify because it was a repeat? So bet the other numbers here that did not repeat?
Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jan 03, 03:51 PM 2016
Hey notto
We wait for 12 unique. Then we bet them hoping for a repeat
So heres a series. What numbers would you bet
3 1
19 2
13 3
33 4
27 5
1 6
3 x
6 7
17 8
32 9
31 10
29 11
12 12
14 L
16 L
3 does not qualify because it was a repeat? So bet the other numbers here that did not repeat?
1st 12 unique
Jackpot joy 4/1/16 +£72.00
KTF +£57.00 at #20 14th spin of betting.
1 27 1
2 25 2
3 23 3
4 27 x
5 36 4
6 3 5
7 10 6
8 25 x
9 19 7
10 21 8
11 32 9
12 1 10
13 8 11
14 17 12
15 32 1 w 24
16 25 2
17 16 3
18 11 4
19 22 5
20 33 6
21 25 x
22 1 7
23 34 8
24 20 9
25 32 x
26 28 10
27 27 11
28 9 12
29 22 1 w 24
30 20 2
31 29 3
32 16 4
33 18 5
34 14 6
35 5 7
36 17 8
37 17 x
38 1 9
39 32 10
40 34 11
41 24 12
42 22 1 w 24
43 21 2
44 27 3
45 8 4
46 34 5
47 22 x
48 32 6
49 23 7
50 27 x
51 28 8
52 10 9
53 6 10
54 6 x
55 6 x
56 34 x
57 20 11
58 6 x
59 15 12
60 36
Jackpot Joy 5.1.16 -£660.00 just 1 spin out
KTF +£45.00 £5.00 short of the £50.00 so stop. If carried on +£58.00 at #11 so KEEP THE FAITH
1 3 1
2 25 2
3 2 3
4 8 4
5 29 5
6 16 6
7 6 7
8 29 x
9 22 8
10 6 x
11 28 9
12 34 10
13 10 11
14 35 12
15 13 1 L
16 13 x L
17 1 2 L
18 11 3 L
19 6 4 w 12
20 3 5
21 18 6
22 3 x
23 12 7
24 19 8
25 2 9
26 31 10
27 24 11
28 29 12
29 4 1 L
30 19 2 w 12
31 9 3
32 7 4
33 18 5
34 3 6
35 17 7
36 29 8
37 16 9
38 16 x
39 9 x
40 23 10
41 34 11
42 6 12
43 15 1 L
44 10 2 L
45 36 3 L
46 0 4 L
47 25 5 L
48 1 6 L
49 31 7 L
50 5 8 L
51 33 9 L -732
52 19 10 w
53 9 11
54 5 x
55 10 x
56 18 12
57 9 1 w 24
58 26 2
59 25 3
60 14 4
61 24 5
62 10 6
63 16 7
64 23 8
65 19 9
66 34 10
67 31 11
68 5 12
69 23 w 24
70 12
71 25
72 17
73 26
74 18
Jackpot Joy 6.1.16 -£1260 Lost twice, one after the other, 21 unique, killer. But you could move the goalpost and get 4 wins
KTF +£51.00 at #23 10th spin of betting. Out of curiosity,after the win, if you kept the Faith, carried on with +1/-1 till the 15th non hit, hits within 30 spins, giving the avg: you get the 24 non-hit (0x's) your winnings at 28th spin of betting #34 is £100.00
1 28 1
2 35 2
3 15 3
4 20 4
5 15 x
6 30 5
7 13 6
8 32 7
9 2 8
10 16 9
11 4 10
12 14 11
13 19 12
14 4 1 w
15 4 x
16 11 2
17 10 3
18 25 4
19 33 5
20 23 6
21 19 7
22 21 8
23 10 x
24 28 9
25 6 10
26 28 x
27 25 x
28 18 11
29 32 12
30 15 1 L
31 19 2 w
32 25 3
33 7 4
34 12 5
35 33 6
36 13 7
37 5 8
38 34 9
39 18 10
40 13 11
41 31 12
42 0 1 L
43 26 2 L
44 2 3 L
45 36 4 L
46 30 5 L
47 24 6 L
48 3 7 L
49 32 8 L
50 11 9 L
51 33 10
52 27 11
53 27 x
54 27 x
55 7 12
56 13 1 L
57 15 2 L
58 29 3 L
59 13 x L
60 12 4 L
61 14 5 L The show was 3 hrs long,so got extra numbers on this recording. The extra 23 spins will start or reset
62 31 6 L as Winkel calls it, another record of KTF. Well at 7th spin of betting #27 win +£43.00, so stop near
63 25 7 L enough to £50/60. Again if you Keep The Faith and carried on next spin you'd be +£57.00, Now stop.
64 14 x L Well in the spins 11-20 we get 9 non-hit, hit (0x's), like in Gut watch the trot, after 9 straight chances
65 29 x of wins would you carry on, Me no spins 21-30 start with 3 repeats, think the idea speaks for
66 4 8 itself.
67 17 9
68 9 10
69 34 11
70 1 12
71 29 w
72 35
73 23
74 33
75 2
76 32
77 27
78 5
79 26
80 10
81 25
82 1
83 17
Those numbers are naughty, Notto!
If you did only 3 bets and keep on the progression you still would have won.
Could you tell me more about KTF? How you're betting and what you're betting? After 10 spins bet all the unhit numbers till -+50units profit?
Ray
These are the numbers collected from smartlive,they are in note pad, trying something smartlive, this was using +1/-1 for the 1st time.
If you look at spin 53 you can see i halved the units, a big no no, by doing this it didnot win,it showed -216.
Recently went over this and stuck to +1/-1, never alter the units and it got what we want £50/60 units.
You'll have to ignore some of the other jottings, God knows what they are. Think some of it is SAS spin a sequence's idea 1,4,7 but i'll leave that buried
Jackpot Joy 7.1.16 +£60.00 But we know the answer to this method, to unreliable
KTF +£50.00 at #8 8th spin of betting.
1 2 1
2 11 2
3 35 3
4 29 4
5 24 5
6 23 6
7 36 7
8 32 8
9 11 x
10 29 x
11 9 9
12 29 x
13 5 10
14 19 11
15 3 12
16 17 1 L
17 26 2 L
18 8 3 L
19 4 4 L
20 15 5 L
21 29 6 w 12
22 26 x
23 6 7
24 29 x
25 5 8
26 13 9
27 11 10
28 22 11
29 34 12
30 16 1 L
31 25 2 L
32 33 3 L
33 33 x L
34 32 4 L
35 3 5 L
36 16 x L
37 24 6 L
38 4 7 w 24
39 19 8
40 22 9
41 0 10
42 27 11
43 29 12
44 12 1 L
45 34 2 L
46 13 3 L
47 9 4 L
48 27 5 w 12
49 6 6
50 21 7
51 28 8
52 18 9
53 32 10
54 30 11
55 18 x
56 27 x
57 1 12
58 20 1 L
59 30 2 w 12
60 15 3
61 15 x
62 2 4
63 5 5
64 23 6
65 20 x
66 23 x
67 21 7
68 34 8
69 21 x
70 12 9
71 34 x
72 3 10
73 2 x
74 20 x
75 9 11
76 12 12
77 7
78 28
Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 07, 07:26 AM 2016
Jackpot Joy 7.1.16 +£60.00 But we know the answer to this method, to unreliable
KTF +£50.00 at #8 8th spin of betting.
1 2 1
2 11 2
3 35 3
4 29 4
5 24 5
6 23 6
7 36 7
8 32 8
9 11 x
10 29 x
11 9 9
12 29 x
13 5 10
14 19 11
15 3 12
16 17 1 L
17 26 2 L
18 8 3 L
19 4 4 L
20 15 5 L
21 29 6 w 12
22 26 x
23 6 7
24 29 x
25 5 8
26 13 9
27 11 10
28 22 11
29 34 12
30 16 1 L
31 25 2 L
32 33 3 L
33 33 x L
34 32 4 L
35 3 5 L
36 16 x L
37 24 6 L
38 4 7 w 24
39 19 8
40 22 9
41 0 10
42 27 11
43 29 12
44 12 1 L
45 34 2 L
46 13 3 L
47 9 4 L
48 27 5 w 12
49 6 6
50 21 7
51 28 8
52 18 9
53 32 10
54 30 11
55 18 x
56 27 x
57 1 12
58 20 1 L
59 30 2 w 12
60 15 3
61 15 x
62 2 4
63 5 5
64 23 6
65 20 x
66 23 x
67 21 7
68 34 8
69 21 x
70 12 9
71 34 x
72 3 10
73 2 x
74 20 x
75 9 11
76 12 12
77 7
78 28
To unreliable. Lol
Same sense of humor i have
I see your posts everyday. Winning 50 to 60 a day. Not bad
What you doing with the winnings?
Bone in rib eyes i hope?
The only trouble RG, is playing KTF on rng FOBT's, have to use .20p units as quoted many times, i show a £ unit for ease,for members, who could play the method, so the £50 is a£10.00 win because of the max bet £100.00, there again it can only take 20 mins, then on to the next shop.
Didn't tell you. Been testing betting against the last dozen with double dozen, now this is the winning bit,LOL, so keep it to your self, use +1/-1 on the win Parley the winning unit again, then drop a unit,but bet the new unit twice,if win both drop a unit,if lose on the new dropped unit,then +1. Repeat till youwin your desired amount.
Posted a run in rng spins UK bookies. Dont knock it till you try it
Dont knock it till ya try it
Should be a forum rule
Im with ya
Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 07, 07:45 AM 2016
The only trouble RG, is playing KTF on rng FOBT's, have to use .20p units as quoted many times, i show a £ unit for ease,for members, who could play the method, so the £50 is a£10.00 win because of the max bet £100.00, there again it can only take 20 mins, then on to the next shop.
100 in total bets of 100 a number?
Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 07, 07:57 AM 2016
Didn't tell you. Been testing betting against the last dozen with double dozen, now this is the winning bit,LOL, so keep it to your self, use +1/-1 on the win Parley the winning unit again, then drop a unit,but bet the new unit twice,if win both drop a unit,if lose on the new dropped unit,then +1. Repeat till youwin your desired amount.
Posted a run in rng spins UK bookies. Dont knock it till you try it
RG look in Dont knock it till you try it. Doable
JOY
Jackpot Joy 8.1.16 + £60.00
KTF +£59.00 #33 7th spin of betting
1 27 1
2 4 2
3 11 3
4 14 4
5 28 5
6 29 6
7 35 7
8 13 8
9 19 9
10 0 10
11 24 11
12 15 12
13 12 1 L
14 17 2 L
15 15 3 L
16 20 4 L
17 33 5 L
18 2 6 L
19 29 7 w 12
20 13 8
21 4 9
22 4 x
23 36 10
24 27 11
25 31 12
26 5 1 L
27 19 2 L
28 13 3 w 24
29 22 4
30 25 5
31 7 6
32 6 7
33 25 x
34 14 8
35 14 x
36 14 x
37 14 x
38 5 x
39 18 9
40 32 10
41 0 11
42 12 12
43 18 w 24
44 36
45 8
46 13
47 20
48 4
49 4
50 26
51 1
52 4
53 36
54 26
Jackpot Joy 9.1.16 +£72.00
Ktf +£45 at #26 5th spin of betting. If anyone looks you could be +£57.00 very next spin, but do stop here as the repeats are coming
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2 24 2
3 1 3
4 25 x
5 7 4
6 21 5
7 28 6
8 2 7
9 1 x
10 10 8
11 30 9
12 35 10
13 23 11
14 8 12
15 26 1 L
16 9 2 L
17 24 3 w 24
18 25 4
19 26 x
20 7 5
21 34 6
22 30 7
23 1 8
24 27 9
25 7 x
26 35 10
27 34 x
28 30 x
29 23 11
30 7 x
31 6 12
32 19 1 L
33 0 2 L
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35 14 4
36 36 5
37 6 6
38 21 7
39 0 x
40 25 8
41 22 9
42 22 x
43 11 10
44 11 x
45 15 11
46 6 x
47 10 12
48 36 w 24
49 1
50 1
51 19
52 0
53 1
54 35
55 27
Jackpot Joy 10.1.16 +£36
KTF +£47.00 at #26 8th spin of betting
1 29 1
2 12 2
3 31 3
4 24 4
5 11 5
6 4 6
7 10 7
8 14 8
9 8 9
10 7 10
11 23 11
12 27 12
13 33 1 L
14 23 2 w 12
15 3 3
16 29 4
17 36 5
18 26 6
19 8 7
20 10 8
21 26 x
22 10 x
23 26 x
24 23 x
25 11 9
26 2 10
27 16 11
28 0 12
29 12 1 L
30 8 2 w 12
31 16 3
32 5 4
33 4 5
34 20 6
35 17 7
36 25 8
37 5 x
38 4 x
39 34 9
40 15 10
41 29 11
42 34 x
43 9 12
44 14 L
45 8 w 12
46 10
47 6
48 0
49 18
50 16
51 22
52 3
53 30
54 20
Jackpot Joy 11.1.16 +£120.00
KTF +£49.00 at #35 7th spin of betting. If you start another game with spins 61-81 win +£47.00 #9 7th spin of betting
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2 15 2
3 7 3
4 19 x
5 17 4
6 31 5
7 12 6
8 0 7
9 13 8
10 32 9
11 18 10
12 27 11
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16 22 3
17 35 4
18 24 5
19 2 6
20 17 7
21 4 8
22 17 x
23 4 x
24 1 9
25 33 x
26 12 10
27 35 x
28 28 11
29 28 x
30 5 12
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32 24 x
33 14 2
34 2 3
35 27 4
36 36 5
37 34 6
38 5 7
39 24 x
40 29 8
41 21 9
42 7 10
43 16 11
44 32 12
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46 35 2
47 10 3
48 19 4
49 36 x
50 16 5
51 14 6
52 2 7
53 27 8
54 25 9
55 4 10
56 21 11
57 20 12
58 8 1 L
59 22 2 L
60 25 3 w 24
61 34 4
62 22 x
63 18 5
64 18 x
65 30 6
66 5 7
67 23 8
68 33 9
69 21 10
70 7 11
71 36 12
72 28 L
73 28 L
74 12 L
75 29 L
76 10 L
77 9 L
78 9 L
79 18 w 24
80 26
81 31
Jackpot Joy 12.1.16 + £84.00
KTF +£51.00 at #9 9th spin of betting.
Do you see how the average for spins 11-40, 15.5 unique numbers hit, at 60 spins how close its to 30/60.
Just an observation.
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2 19 2
3 1 3
4 34 4
5 6 5
6 10 6
7 30 7
8 23 8
9 14 9
10 34 x
11 0 10
12 16 11
13 11 12
14 34 1 w 24
15 22 2
16 30 3
17 21 4
18 29 5
19 9 6
20 7 7
21 16 8
22 33 9
23 22 x
24 21 x
25 8 10
26 28 11
27 7 x
28 30 x
29 30 x
30 18 12
31 3 1 L
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33 10 3
34 28 4
35 18 5
36 17 6
37 17 x
38 24 7
39 32 8
40 9 9
41 32 x
42 0 10
43 19 11
44 13 12
45 19 1 L
46 26 2 L
47 4 3 L
48 1 4 L
49 31 5 L
50 31 x L
51 36 6 L
52 34 7 w 24
53 28 8
54 18 9
55 23 10
56 14 11
57 19 x
58 24 12
59 18 w 24
60 31
61 0
62 23
63 13
64 27
65 5
66 15
67 29
68 24
Id never play online rng
It behaves differently in free mode then real money mode
However maybe you have found the key to the real RNG machines.....havent lost yet.
My local casino has video rng roulette fake dealer on screen. Ill observe it when its full
its airball
i record the show which is being aired, so live. The wheel they show is said by the presenter to be spinning 24/7, when the show finishes the betting time chamges back to 45 seconds instead of the 90seconds.
Its a cammegh wheel so whether its got the sensors and air pockets to slow the ball, i dont know.
It seems to throw up some wonderful repeats, but then you see them on live wheel,you've seen marquee shots posted on here with say #24 repeat 4 times then shows 2 spins later. As for 0 then 0, yes its there, strings of colour,strings of one of the 18's, what you've seen on live you'll see here.
Jackpot Joy 13.1.16 +£96.00
KTF +£50.00 at #14 5th spin of betting
1 16 1
2 35 2
3 8 3
4 13 4
5 18 5
6 2 6
7 10 7
8 34 8
9 0 9
10 10 x
11 14 10
12 9 11
13 19 12
14 20 1 L
15 33 2 L
16 1 3 L
17 13 4 w 24
18 20 x
19 26 5
20 8 6
21 25 7
22 9 8
23 10 9
24 4 10
25 9 x
26 12 11
27 5 12
28 36 1 L
29 32 2 L
30 1 3 w 24
31 9 4
32 21 5
33 36 x
34 13 6
35 24 7
36 34 8
37 3 9
38 26 10
39 25 11
40 14 12
41 35 1 L
42 33 2 L
43 23 3 L
44 17 4 L
45 32 5 w 12
46 16 6
47 36 7
48 34 8
49 7 9
50 36 x
51 1 10
52 31 11
53 3 12
54 30 1 L
55 3 2 w 12
56 29 3
57 3 x
58 21 4
59 8 5
60 28 6
61 12 7
62 34 8
63 20 9
64 3 x
65 35 10
66 34 x
67 35 x
68 2 11
69 21 x
70 25 12
71 6 L
72 27 L
73 16 L
74 3 w 24
75 9
76 1
77 26
78 11
Jackpot Joy 14.1.16 +£96.00
KTF +£59.00 at #35 17th spin of betting
1 31 1
2 0 2
3 17 3
4 6 4
5 17 x
6 33 5
7 14 6
8 0 x
9 4 7
10 23 8
11 11 9
12 29 10
13 11 x
14 21 11
15 10 12
16 11 1 w 24
17 21 2
18 36 3
19 20 4
20 5 5
21 33 6
22 13 7
23 7 8
24 6 9
25 25 10
26 17 11
27 35 12
28 35 1 w 24
29 30 2
30 0 3
31 22 4
32 0 x
33 28 5
34 11 6
35 32 7
36 11 x
37 23 8
38 25 9
39 29 10
40 30 11
41 25 x
42 35 x
43 12 12
44 18 1 L
45 22 2 w 12
46 24 3
47 27 4
48 34 5
49 24 x
50 34 x
51 21 6
52 34 x
53 2 7
54 4 8
55 6 9
56 30 10
57 23 11
58 11 12
59 21 1 w 24
60 34 2
3
61 11 4
62 17 5
63 14 6
64 9 7
65 23 8
66 11 x
67 18 9
68 26 10
69 2 11
70 14 x
71 33 12
72 36 L
73 17 w 12
74 0
75 18
76 6
77 35
78 16
79 28
If you know the Turbo bet how much would that make by the 37th spin
Jackpot Joy +£72.00
KTF +£45.00 at #16 5th spin of betting. If you must win £50/60 you'd win at #25 13th spin of betting +£61.00. But i'd take £5.00 less +45
1 7 1
2 31 2
3 23 3
4 22 4
5 21 5
6 21 x
7 1 6
8 4 7
9 0 8
10 1 x
11 13 9
12 2 10
13 26 11
14 19 12
15 16 1 L
16 22 2 w 12
17 7 3
18 32 4
19 13 5
20 3 6
21 5 7
22 11 8
23 25 9
24 8 10
25 25 x
26 19 11
27 2 12
28 31 1 L
29 18 2 L
30 23 3 L
31 22 4 w 24
32 27 5
33 31 x
34 26 6
35 0 7
36 34 8
37 5 9
38 1 10
39 36 11
40 6 12
41 31 1 w 24
42 15 2
43 30 3
44 1 4
45 32 5
46 29 6
47 34 7
48 2 8
49 16 9
50 12 10
51 4 11
52 8 12
53 14 L
54 36 L
55 0 L
56 23 L
57 34 w 12
58 34
59 27
60 30
Jackpot Joy 16.1.16 +£72.00
KTF +£45.00 at #36 11th spin of betting
1 11 1
2 31 2
3 29 3
4 2 4
5 19 5
6 30 6
7 16 7
8 15 8
9 23 9
10 29 x
11 13 10
12 24 11
13 28 12
14 11 1 w 24
15 16 2
16 8 3
17 1 4
18 17 5
19 25 6
20 25 x
21 36 7
22 31 8
23 31 x
24 5 9
25 10 10
26 32 11
27 23 12
28 6 1
29 12 2
30 16 3 w 24
31 22 4
32 6 x
33 31 5
34 29 6
35 29 x
36 5 7
37 19 8
38 24 9
39 35 10
40 19 11
41 30 12
42 31 w 24
43 4
44 29
45 5
46 10
47 14
Jackpot Joy 17.1.16 +£72.00, if last +24 lost,it would be a loseing day. So i'll let you decide if its £96 or 72
KTF +£50.00 at #14 5th spin of betting
1 31 1
2 21 2
3 21 x
4 29 3
5 22 4
6 34 5
7 6 6
8 3 7
9 0 8
10 10 9
11 23 10
12 36 11
13 7 12
14 1 1 L
15 14 2 L
16 4 3 L
17 0 4 w 24
18 11 5
19 1 x
20 25 6
21 10 7
22 16 8
23 26 9
24 24 10
25 17 11
26 20 12
27 0 1 w 24
28 18 2
29 22 3
30 14 4
31 6 5
32 29 6
33 17 7
34 22 x
35 13 8
36 16 9
37 8 10
38 16 x
39 8 x
40 5 11
41 6 x
42 27 12
43 36 1 L
44 4 2 L
45 12 3 L
46 8 4 w 24
47 10 5
48 23 6
49 9 7
50 12 x
51 17 8
52 32 9
53 8 x
54 13 10
55 29 11
56 22 12
57 24 L
58 34 L
59 9 w 24
60 20
Well someone have to say "Thank you" in the name of all followers...!
You made it to day 23, it says that you've learned patience and constancy.
Those are great qualities.
Thanks
Jackpot Joy 18.1.16 +£60.00
KTF +£45.00 at #7 5th spin of betting, if you Keep the Faith next spin +£57.00 so stop reset, jump.
1 18 1
2 24 2
3 3 3
4 16 4
5 35 5
6 36 6
7 20 7
8 18 x
9 17 8
10 36 x
11 28 9
12 30 10
13 31 11
14 1 12
15 7 1 L
16 23 2 L
17 14 3 L
18 27 4 L
19 4 5 L
20 3 6 w 12
21 28 7
22 34 8
23 36 9
24 26 10
25 14 x
26 23 x
27 26 x
28 27 x
29 27 x
30 23 x
31 19 11
32 15 12
33 11 1 L
34 36 2 w 12
35 1 3
36 26 4
37 18 5
38 20 6
39 27 7
40 34 8
41 35 9
42 6 10
43 15 11
44 17 12
45 10 1 L
46 14 2 L
47 31 3 L
48 18 4 w 24
49 3 5
50 5 6
51 35 7
52 16 8
53 26 9
54 22 10
55 21 11
56 19 12
57 27 L
58 18 w 12
59 5
60 7
61 8
62 23
63 3
64 24
65 27
66 12
67 7
68 0
69 19
70 5
71 27
72 10
73 15
Latest average
Jackpot Joy 19.1.16 +£60.00
KTF
This is where you need to think +38 at 4th spin of betting,so need 12 to be +50. Look you've got 14 spins gone, whats the tittle 12#'s in x spins, so we've had 1 repeat.
The next bet is 24 units out if win 12units =+50, so do you take +38 or KTF( keep the faith) your decision.
Now with +1/-1 at 3, this is where it could start to go off track, you need to think of starting B/R, as the +1/-1 goes along if get +50 stop,if B/R is just in new high,think about stopping,start on new table or in my case new machine in new shop.
At spin 8 #1,+£28 should you take +28, cut the story short if you've KTF at spin 17 of betting #11 +£57 now stop.
1 15 1
2 9 2
3 20 3
4 32 4
5 16 5
6 29 6
7 24 7
8 28 8
9 20 x
10 5 9
11 6 10
12 18 11
13 23 12
14 27 1 L
15 24 2 w 12
16 32 3
17 7 4
18 1 5
19 6 6
20 15 7
21 5 8
22 12 9
23 30 10
24 30 x
25 4 11
26 10 12
27 11 1 L
28 4 2 w 12
29 17 3
30 5 4
31 9 5
32 4 x
33 2 6
34 36 7
35 27 8
36 27 x
37 7 9
38 34 10
39 25 11
40 22 12
41 23 1 L
42 18 2 L
43 25 3 w 24
44 9 4
45 30 5
46 24 6
47 27 7
48 0 8
49 14 9
50 15 10
51 23 x
52 32 11
53 19 12
54 35 L
55 6 L
56 35 L
57 2 L
58 25 w 12
59 14
60 18
Morning Turner
I dont know if anybody is taping these games, perhaps you could Turner its on itv 178 sky.
Perhaps i sit there and fabricate these #'s.
Anyway i'll press on till the end of the month,then every body can make what they will with it, 12 unique,KTF you can watch grassroots against these #'s, i've shown dont knockit till you try it betting every spin against last dozen you can get a win.
Jackpot Joy 20.1.16 KTF +£43.00 at #3 7th spin of betting
1 25 1
2 25 r
3 16 2
4 1 3
5 26 4
6 16 r
7 31 5
8 5 6
9 8 7
10 14 8
11 34 9 1 29 36
12 13 10 1 28 36
13 33 11 1 27 36
14 36 12 1 26 36
15 33 r 1 25
16 2 13 2 50 72
17 3 14 1 24 36 +£43 so i'd take it as just £7.00 short off the £50.00
18 2 r 1 23
19 9 15 2 46 72
20 14 r 1 22
21 36 r 2 44
22 2 r 3 66
23 23 16 4 88 144
24 31 r 3 63
25 32 17 4 84 144
26 16 r 3 60
27 1 r 4 80
28 25 r 5 100
29 8 r 6 120
30 29 18 7 140 252
31 12 19 6 114 216
32 7 20 5 90 180
33 17 21 4 68 144
34 17 r 3 48
35 21 22 4 64 144
36 8 r 3 45
37 31 r 4 60
38 25 r 5 75
39 15 23 6 90 216 -£35.00
40 4 24 5 70 180 +£75.00 so you've kept the faith
41 0 25 4 52 144
42 22 26 3 36 108
43 27 27 2 22 72
44 13 1979 2268 if you keep the faith and had to carry on +£289
Jackpot joy 20.1.16 +£96.00
Very close to a bust
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3 16 2
4 1 3
5 26 4
6 16 x
7 31 5
8 5 6
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18 2 x
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20 14 5
21 36 6
22 2 x
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24 31 8
25 32 9
26 16 10
27 1 11
28 25 12
29 8 1 L
30 29 2 L
31 12 3 L
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36 8 x L
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38 25 8
39 15 9
40 4 10
41 0 11
42 22 12
43 27 1 L
44 13 2 L
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47 19 5 L
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50 29 x
51 0 8
52 3 9
53 14 10
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55 22 12
56 29 1 w 24
57 16 2
58 27 3
59 33 4
60 31 5
61 16 x
62 6 6
63 19 7
64 11 8
65 27 x
66 2 9
67 13 10
68 24 11
69 31 x
70 34 12
71 26 L
72 29 w 12
73 18
74 32
75 16
76 2
77 33
78 29
79 32
80 15
81 12
82 2
83 26
Jackpot Joy -£684 Bust
KTF +£45.00 #17 5th spin of betting
1 36 1
2 15 2
3 14 3
4 19 4
5 22 5
6 34 6
7 3 7
8 3 x
9 31 8
10 22 x
11 25 9
12 5 10
13 21 11
14 13 12
15 17 1 L
16 4 2 L
17 20 3 L
18 24 4 L
19 25 5 w 12
20 23 6
21 34 7
22 34 x
23 20 x
24 29 8
25 29 x
26 12 9
27 12 x
28 23 x
29 35 10
30 4 x
31 34 x
32 11 11
33 4 x
34 18 12 20 spins to get the 12 unique
35 26 1 L
36 32 2 L
37 2 3 L
38 30 4 L
39 19 5 L
40 15 6 L
41 0 7 L
42 28 8 L
43 1 9 L -732
44 30 x L
45 0 x L
46 27 10 L
47 15 x L
48 11 11 w 14 spins to hit
49 36 12
50 7 1 L
51 24 2 L
52 33 3 L
53 17 4 L
54 12 5 L
55 13 6 L
56 30 7 w 12
57 22 8
58 14 9
59 5 10
60 10 11
61 8 12
62 2 L
63 36 L
64 33 w 24
65 2
66 26
67 31
68 33
69 29
70 36
71 22
So the idea of betting 12 unique is getting caught.
most games are over 60 spins, think it's had 5 busts to date.
Is it worth just betting 3 times, 12,12,24
Is it the longer it takes to get 12 unique, the more likely to bust
Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 21, 04:07 AM 2016
Is it worth just betting 3 times, 12,12,24
With this you never risk much. And you can even get 1-3 hits (!?).
Have you analyzed how many hits would you get after 1st win?
Well there should be a big cheer KTF runs out of spins, but with a £100.00 BR, you would have stopped ?, even with the loss at spin 59 previous wins,would still be up, probably not a lot.
spin # #'s hit pro-gression stake return profit +/- total
1 33 1
2 33 R
3 25 2
4 3 3
5 23 4
6 1 5
7 14 6
8 22 7
9 2 8
10 23 R 100
11 34 9 1 29 36 7 107
12 31 10 1 28 36 8 115
13 1 R 1 27 0 -27 88
14 1 R 2 54 0 -54 34
15 7 11 3 81 108 27 61
16 2 R 2 52 0 -52 9
17 16 12 3 78 108 30 39
18 22 R 2 50 0 -50 -11
19 5 13 3 75 108 33 22
20 5 R 2 48 0 -48 -26
21 16 R 3 72 0 -72 -98
22 22 R 4 96 0 -96 -194
23 19 14 5 120 180 60 -134
24 20 15 4 92 144 52 -82
25 7 R 3 66 0 -66 -148
26 30 16 4 88 144 56 -92
27 34 R 3 63 0 -63 -155
28 20 R 4 84 0 -84 -239
29 22 R 5 105 0 -105 -344
30 33 R 6 126 0 -126 -470
31 12 17 7 147 252 105 -365
32 36 18 6 120 216 96 -269
33 27 19 5 95 180 85 -184
34 14 R 4 72 0 -72 -256
35 4 20 5 90 180 90 -166
36 4 R 4 68 0 -68 -234
37 24 21 5 85 180 95 -139
38 1 R 4 64 0 -64 -203
39 11 22 5 80 180 100 -103
40 35 23 4 60 144 84 -19
41 14 R 3 42 0 -42 -61
42 26 24 4 56 144 88 27
43 11 R 3 39 0 -39 -12
44 30 R 4 52 0 -52 -64
45 24 R 5 65 0 -65 -129
46 5 R 6 78 0 -78 -207
47 1 R 7 91 0 -91 -298
48 0 25 8 104 288 184 -114
49 33 R 7 84 0 -84 -198
50 13 26 8 96 288 192 -6
51 3 R 7 77 0 -77 -83
52 30 R 8 88 0 -88 -171
53 30 R 9 99 0 -99 -270
54 4 R 10 110 0 -110 -380
55 16 R 11 121 0 -121 -501
56 24 R 12 132 0 -132 -633
57 4 R 13 143 0 -143 -776
58 26 R 14 154 0 -154 -930
59 29 27 15 165 540 375 -555
60 27 R
61
Jackpot Joy 22.1.16 -£696
To many repeats spins 21- 30 for KTF
1 33 1
2 33 x
3 25 2
4 3 3
5 23 4
6 1 5
7 14 6
8 22 7
9 2 8
10 23 x
11 34 9
12 31 10
13 1 x
14 1 x
15 7 11
16 2 x
17 16 12
18 22 1 w 24
19 5 2
20 5 x
21 16 3
22 22 x
23 19 4
24 20 5
25 7 6
26 30 7
27 34 8
28 20 x
29 22 x
30 33 9
31 12 10
32 36 11
33 27 12
34 14 1 L
35 4 2 L
36 4 x L
37 24 3 L
38 1 4 L
39 11 5 L
40 35 6 L
41 14 x L
42 26 7 L -732
43 11 x L
44 30 8 w
45 24 x
46 5 9
47 1 x
48 0 10
49 33 11
50 13 12
51 3 L
52 30 w 12
53 30
54 4
55 16
56 24
57 4
58 26
59 29
60 27
Jackpot Joy 23.1.16 +£48.00
1 18 1
2 25 2
3 16 3
4 15 4
5 5 5
6 30 6
7 31 7
8 21 8
9 5 x
10 3 9
11 24 10
12 17 11
13 12 12
14 10 1 L
15 3 2 w 12
16 23 3
17 16 4
18 24 5
19 13 6
20 30 7
21 26 8
22 2 9
23 11 10
24 10 x
25 24 x
26 26 x
27 0 11
28 5 12
29 29 1 L
30 29 x L
31 6 2 L
32 7 3 L
33 18 4 L
34 3 5 w 12
35 11 6
36 2 7
37 34 8
38 22 9
39 6 x
40 29 x
41 2 x
42 11 x
43 27 10
44 29 x
45 33 11
46 13 12
47 21 L
48 1 L
49 18 w 24
50 34
51 12
52 1
53 10
54
55
56
57
58
59
60
Jackpot joy KTF +£ 52.00
1 18
2 25
3 16
4 15
5 5
6 30
7 31
8 21
9 5
10 3 9 out of 10 so at spin 40 we'd likely see 24 non hit have hit.
11 24
12 17
13 12
14 10 +38 so take it, 38.00 in 4 spins, restart.
15 3
16 23 +38 now you should restart.
17 16
18 24
19 13
20 30
21 26
22 2
23 11 +£52.00 if you KEEP THE FAITH.
24 10
25 24
26 26
27 0
28 5
29 29
30 29
31 6
32 7
33 18
34 3
35 11
36 2
37 34
38 22 spin 38 24th non hit
39 6
40 29 spin 40 24 non hit 15 in the 30 spins
41 2
42 11
43 27
44 29
45 33
46 13
47 21
48 1
49 18
50 34
51 12
52 1
53 10 53rd spin there have been 27 non hit,we could say hitting 1 in 2 spins
54 Think our average in 60 spins over the past games is 30.5 non hit in 60 spins.
55
56
57
58
59
60
Jackpot joy 24.1.16 +£96.00
KTF +£50.00 #1 5th spin of betting
1 29 1
2 17 2
3 10 3
4 21 4
5 26 5
6 17 x
7 2 6
8 14 7
9 3 8
10 25 9
11 31 10
12 11 11
13 35 12
14 6 1 L
15 1 2 L
16 14 3 w 24
17 11 4
18 28 5
19 24 6
20 36 7
21 0 8
22 12 9
23 27 10
24 12 x
25 6 x
26 30 11
27 3 12
28 13 1 L
29 17 2 L
30 4 3 L
31 26 4 L
32 32 5 L
33 12 6 w 12
34 9 7
35 24 8
36 30 9
37 23 10
38 14 11
39 11 12
40 23 1 w 24
41 6 2
42 6 x
43 21 3
44 0 4
45 15 5
46 5 6
47 35 7
48 4 8
49 36 9
50 32 10
51 7 11
52 11 12
53 2 1 L
54 25 2 L
55 0 3 w 24
56 29 4
57 17 5
58 20 6
59 25 x
60 16 7
61 27 8
62 16 x
63 11 9
64 13 10
65 22 11
66 27 x
67 9 12
68 14 L
69 9 w 12
70 3
71 20
72 31
73 0
So you can see from KTF why i liked Winkels GUT.
You can see on KTF the non hit (0x's) making their appearence along the 40 spins, the R's will be the 1X's and >1x's.
At the bottom of each group of 10 spins you see if its making better than average, by this i mean if spins 11-40 produce 15.67742 non hit, we just remove the point part, we'd use 15 in 30spins, so spins 11-20 would expect to see 5, same for spins 21-30, same for spins 31-40 15 non hit in 30 spins.
It amazes me how often at spin 60 we've got around 30 non hit gone, again 30 is half of 60. So if the game went a non hit every other spin, perfect.
In Jackpot Joy doc you can see how long each non hit could take to hit (max to hit), its average to come in, the avg: for 30 spins.
What is so good for me is this is on airball which i believe members say is live,well these figures are just as good on RNG.
Interesting stuff notophammer and thanks for your analysis.
Might be some mistake in the tittle. The numbers are from Jackpot 247.
I called Jackpot Joy because of the win.
Now todays numbers are unbelieveable. But then i see this on rng 35 of the 37 numbers gone in 78 spins.
So 30#'s gone and the 31st hits 1 spin,31 #'s gone the 32nd # 2 spins later, 33rd # 2spins,34th # 3spins later and the 35th # 4 spins.
So in 12 spins the airball machine finds 5#'s, but as said i've seen this on RNG. So why or how does the machine have 30#'s of the 37 gone and then finds the 31st in 1 spin, whilst when the 14th number of the 37 gets hit,it takes the remaining 23 that have not been hit 4spins, What does iceman say in top gun " Bullshit"
Now if you dont collect the spins you'd never know how fast the 37 numbers can be hit, as i know on RNG 37#'s can go in 120 spins,which we know is a program
1 26 1
2 23 2
3 2 3
4 35 4
5 8 5
6 16 6
7 14 7
8 22 8
9 14 r
10 30 9
11 21 10
12 20 11
13 5 12
14 33 13
15 8 r
16 30 r
17 6 14
18 2 r
19 16 r
20 8 r
21 27 15
22 31 16
23 9 17
24 1 18
25 2 r
26 13 19
27 19 20
28 32 21
29 28 22
30 1 9
31 1 r
32 32 r
33 1 r
34 6 r
35 36 23
36 4 24
37 16 r
38 29 25
39 15 26
40 13 r
41 18 27
42 32 r
43 17 28
44 36 r
45 22 r
46 33 r
47 22 r
48 31 r
49 21 r
50 22 r
51 2 r
52 34 29
53 32 r
54 1 r
55 19 r
56 14 r
57 20 r
58 30 r
59 16 r
60 22 r
61 9 r
62 26 r
63 11 30
64 24 31
65 6 r
66 3 32
67 33 r
68 10 33
69 32 r
70 27 r
71 7 34
72 32 r
73 33 r
74 8 r
75 12 35
76 23 r
77 29 r
78 32 r
So heres what the number are about.
12 unique +£108
1 26 1
2 23 2
3 2 3
4 35 4
5 8 5
6 16 6
7 14 7
8 22 8
9 14 r
10 30 9
11 21 10
12 20 11
13 5 12
14 33 1 L
15 8 2 w 12
16 30 3
17 6 4
18 2 5
19 16 6
20 8 x
21 27 7
22 31 8
23 9 9
24 1 10
25 2 x
26 13 11
27 19 12
28 32 1 L
29 28 2 L
30 1 3 w 24
31 1 x
32 32 x
33 1 x
34 6 4
35 36 5
36 4 6
37 16 7
38 29 8
39 15 9
40 13 10
41 18 11
42 32 x
43 17 12
44 36 1 w 24
45 22 2
46 33 3
47 22 x
48 31 4
49 21 5
50 22 x
51 2 6
52 34 7
53 32 8
54 1 9
55 19 10
56 14 11
57 20 12
58 30 1 L
59 16 2 L
60 22 3 w 24
61 9 4
62 26 5
63 11 6
64 24 7
65 6 8
66 3 9
67 33 10
68 10 11
69 32 12
70 27 L
71 7 L
72 32 w 24
73 33
74 8
75 12
76 23
77 29
78 32
Jackpot Joy 26.1.16 +£96.00
KTF +£50.00 #29 9th spin of betting.
1 27 1
2 3 2
3 18 3
4 13 4
5 0 5
6 23 6
7 10 7
8 9 8
9 31 9
10 19 10
11 18 x
12 22 11
13 22 x
14 35 12
15 11 1 L
16 1 2 L
17 6 3 L
18 16 4 L
19 29 5 L
20 14 6 L
21 33 7 L
22 10 8 w 24
23 21 9
24 4 10
25 0 11
26 19 12
27 10 1 w 24
28 3 2
29 23 3
30 35 4
31 28 5
32 21 6
33 5 7
34 28 x
35 27 8
36 27 x
37 12 9
38 10 x
39 16 10
40 34 11
41 24 12
42 19 1 L
43 23 2 w 12
44 4 3
45 35 4
46 5 5
47 25 6
48 19 x
49 24 7
50 36 8
51 4 x
52 26 9
53 27 10
54 7 11
55 31 12
56 0 1 L
57 20 2 L
58 19 3 w 24
59 11 4
60 21 5
61 3 6
62 26 7
63 12 8
64 33 9
65 7 10
66 27 11
67 10 12
68 24 L
69 20 w 12
70 20
71 12
72 26
It was close win on 8th unique this time.
Thanks
Jackpot 247 +£72
KTF +£38.00 #6 take the win,next bet if win gets to +50, but you have to stake £24,with 13 unique stop. If you Keep the Faith +£57.00 #25 10th spin of betting,now stop.
1 31 1
2 9 2
3 24 3
4 12 4
5 27 5
6 22 6
7 9 x
8 4 7
9 35 8
10 36 9
11 17 10
12 3 11
13 30 12
14 6 L
15 35 w 12
16 17 1
17 14 2
18 20 3
19 28 4
20 25 5
21 35 6
22 7 7
23 28 x
24 28 x
25 15 8
26 10 9
27 27 10
28 2 11
29 15 x
30 27 x
31 22 12
32 0 1 L
33 4 2 L
34 17 3 w 24
35 32 4
36 15 5
37 0 x
38 28 6
39 9 7
40 1 8
41 3 9
42 19 10
43 32 x
44 14 11
45 12 12
46 16 1 L
47 29 2 L
48 10 3 L
49 29 x L
50 29 x L
51 22 4 L
52 32 5 w 12
53 18 6
54 25 7
55 8 8
56 28 9
57 24 10
58 1 11
59 18 x
60 28 x
61 33 12
62 23 1 L
63 27 2 L
64 1 3 w 24
65 11 4
66 24 5
67 6 6
68 34 7
69 31 8
70 18 9
71 27 x
72 12 10
73 34 x
74 28 11
75 24 x
76 22 12
77 18
78 15
Jackpot 247 +£96.00
KTF +£57.00 #22 15th spin of betting
1 6 1
2 15 2
3 3 3
4 15 x
5 3 x
6 24 4
7 9 5
8 29 6
9 31 7
10 17 8
11 9 x
12 35 9
13 33 10
14 34 11
15 23 12
16 16 1 L
17 23 2 w 12
18 1 3
19 3 4
20 18 5
21 31 6
22 19 7
23 23 x
24 32 8
25 22 9
26 30 10
27 22 x
28 26 11
29 35 12
30 14 1 L
31 11 2 L
32 33 3 L
33 14 x L
34 17 4 L
35 32 5 w 12
36 36 6
37 16 7
38 18 8
39 25 9
40 12 10
41 21 11
42 22 12
43 34 1 L
44 35 2 L
45 24 3 L
46 17 4 w 24
47 4 5
48 0 6
49 8 7
50 6 8
51 4 x
52 7 9
53 10 10
54 17 x
55 3 11
56 24 x
57 3 x
58 5 12
59 34 1 w 24
60 34 x
61 14 2
62 32 3
63 2 4
64 4 5
65 29 6
66 32 x
67 11 7
68 23 8
69 12 9
70 12 x
71 22 10
72 18 11
73 6 12
74 4 w 24
75 27
76 32
77 32
78 16
79 22
80 7
An update. 35 days of recorded Jackpot games. The avg for non-hit in spins 11-40, 30 spins is 15.71429, drop off the point bit and its 15 in 30 perfect.
Jacpot 24/7.com 29.1.16 +£48.00
KTF +£48 #3 19th spin of betting. Stop at +£48.00 as only £2.00 from the £50/60
1 9 1
2 24 2
3 35 3
4 22 4
5 26 5
6 21 6
7 10 7
8 29 8
9 8 9
10 31 10
11 29 R
12 26 R
13 1 11
14 24 R
15 17 12
16 34 1 L
17 32 2 L
18 22 3 W 24
19 36 4
20 9 5
21 25 6
22 15 7
23 33 8
24 25 R
25 1 9
26 23 10
27 22 R
28 19 11
29 3 12
30 21 1 L
31 33 2 w 12
32 14 3
33 1 4
34 8 5
35 28 6
36 9 7
37 31 8
38 2 9
39 2 x
40 31 x
41 35 10
42 12 11
43 6 12
44 22 1 L
45 31 2 w 12
46 31 x
47 15 3
48 15 x
49 30 4
50 36 5
51 3 6
52 7 7
53 28 8
54 24 9
55 17 10
56 3 x
57 12 11
58 10 12
59
60
Jackpot 24/7. com 30.1.16 +£24.00
KTF +£54 #4 10th spin of betting. Small batch today,anyway tomorrow is the last day. I'll carry on with the average thou.
1 12 1
2 34 2
3 10 3
4 7 4
5 12 x
6 12 x
7 29 5
8 14 6
9 6 7
10 21 8
11 24 9
12 27 10
13 10 x
14 30 11
15 1 12
16 15 1 L
17 1 2 w 12
18 18 3
19 20 4
20 4 5
21 21 6
22 29 7
23 29 x
24 11 8
25 23 9
26 15 x
27 10 10
28 16 11
29 31 12
30 32 L
31 35 L
32 27 L
33 0 L
34 32 L
35 9 L
36 23 w 12
37 5
38 17
39 13
40 24
41 35
42 25
Jackpot 24/7.com 31.1.16 1st12 uniques +£48.00
KTF +£56.00 #15 16th spin of betting.
1 35 1
2 29 2
3 32 3
4 1 4
5 19 5
6 18 6
7 3 7
8 11 8
9 17 9
10 0 10
11 12 11
12 30 12
13 14 1 L
14 17 2 w 12
15 18 3
16 26 4
17 6 5
18 3 6
19 19 7
20 30 8
21 27 9
22 31 10
23 13 11
24 4 12
25 29 1 L
26 15 2 L
27 0 3 L
28 35 4 L
29 33 5 L
30 6 6 w 12
31 22 7
32 3 8
33 32 9
34 31 10
35 25 11
36 31 x
37 4 12
38 28 1 L
39 32 2 w 12
40 33 3
41 34 4
42 16 5
43 35 6
44 27 7
45 9 8
46 27 x
47 6 9
48 23 10
49 5 11
50 14 12
51 3 L
52 3 L
53 13 L
54 26 L
55 3 L
56 17 L
57 9 w 12
58 28
59 34
60 25
Well thats all i'm posting on 1st 12 unique. I will update the JJ average doc, to 100 games
You see it can be good,but it also tanks. Raymanz offered a tweek.
I used 9 bets, but like a good member said perhaps +1/-1.
I'll just use Keep The Faith myself.
Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 31, 05:29 AM 2016
I used 9 bets, but like a good member said perhaps +1/-1.
Was it not +1/-1 all the time?
I use +1/-1 on KTF.
On 12 unique its prog 1,1,2,3,4,6,9,14,21
Aa, yes, I forgot.
Thanks
up dated Average
notto
what is your method where, after 12 unique bet those 12?
Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 25, 02:15 AM 2016
What does iceman say in top gun " Bullshit"[/b]
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=InaRIYFPMiY
this was it
jackpot joy
testing the unique 12 repeat idea
18 1
15 2
24 3
18
21 4
32 5
9 6
34 7
3 8
32
5 9
26 10
19 11
31 12
we have 12 uniques, bet them
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2 LOSE
6 LOSE
3 WIN
notto maybe i missed it in the thread. i browsed it quickly just now
1) out of the jackpot joy games, any busts? i read the excel files, had hard time understanding
2) what progression do you use? if any?
i did a bunch of tests off zumma tonight all hits within 4 tries
thanks
edit: if i read this thread properly, KTF has not lost once on these sheets here in this thread, BUT jackpot joy HAS lost once?
your efforts are simply amazing....all the sheets and results you have posted here, just wow
Quote from: nottophammer on Jan 21, 04:07 AM 2016
So the idea of betting 12 unique is getting caught.
most games are over 60 spins, think it's had 5 busts to date.
Is it worth just betting 3 times, 12,12,24
Is it the longer it takes to get 12 unique, the more likely to bust
Longer to get to 12 unique the more likely you are to bust
Interesting
Makes complete sense
If it takes awhile for jackpot joy to have 12 unique that means many repeats. Then you are betting those repeats to repeat again. Unlikely
Now im starting to see "the count" if we get to 12 uniques within 15 spins play for the repeats. If not, play KTF. Something like thatIf we have 12 uniques within 15 spins spins we are safe to bet jackpot joy.
If we have less then 12 uniques within 15 spins KTF. I saw a sheet where it took 20 spins to get 12 unique. Geez. Go ktf after that
Let me know what you think
Man im really starting to see this count thing.
-RouletteGhost
There is a lot of good information in this thread, as there is in any of Nottos threads.
Be careful though because this was the thread that led up to KTF.
The +1/-1 progression had not really been decided upon.
Read post 85 here from Notto.
Basically this thread was abondoned and the KTF thread was started.
Look at the start date of the KTF thread which is basically the continuation of this thread.
-Celtic
Quote from: Celticknits on Apr 04, 10:05 PM 2016
-RouletteGhost
There is a lot of good information in this thread, as there is in any of Nottos threads.
Be careful though because this was the thread that led up to KTF.
The +1/-1 progression had not really been decided upon.
Read post 85 here from Notto.
Basically this thread was abondoned and the KTF thread was started.
Look at the start date of the KTF thread which is basically the continuation of this thread.
-Celtic
Thanks for that
My brain was going a mile a minute browsing this thread
I was wondering why jackpot joy wasnt talked about anymore. AKA 12 uniques show then bet those 12 uniques
Ive been so caught up in the crap here lately i forgot what mattered. Back to this, roulette