This is a static bet.
Bet 1 unit on Red
Bet 1 unit on Odd
Bet 1 unit on High
Bet 1 unit on 1st Dozen
Bet 1 unit on Middle Column
Win Target = 20
stop-loss = -100
or play the opposite
1 unit on Black
1 unit on Even
1 unit on Low
1 unit on 3rd dozen
1 unit on Right column
No real need to move between the two bets, but if you like to follow some kind of pattern, go for it.
If you get down -10 go to 2 units on each spot
If you get down -30 go to 3 units on each spot
If you get down -60 go to 4 units on each spot
If you get down -100, stop, take a break.
I recommend risking no more than 200 units per day.
This is a very stable bet.
The backbone of this system is 1 unit on Red, Odd, 2nd column.
Or Black, Even, 3rd Column
For only 3 units, you can play this variation and it performs just as well. Although maybe a little more volatile.
Enjoy
GLC
I have to throw my hat on the side of playing the Red, Odd and 2nd column or the Black, Even and 3rd column at 1 unit each.
I've been testing it on the non-zero wheel on betvoyager and it is performing wonderfully.
I just pick either Red or Black and as long as I'm winning I stay with that bet. If I get down 6 from my most recent high bank, I switch to the other bet and increase my wager by 2 units on each spot. Anytime I lose 6 times the number of units I'm betting, I increase my wager by another unit and switch colors.
I'm shocked at how well it's working. Must be really good luck.
Try it and see.
G
Congrats on the win my friend, and many thanks for posting :thumbsup:
Vic
Thanks GLC, working well at Totesport.
I have also been playing your reverse slide and not lost, hit and run until this week (after 4 weeks) and now is as if the random has remembered me at all those I am playing with some amazing diagonal runs and a lot of zeros, so this is another welcime change.
Thanks again
Just tested it on BVnoZ rng.
+23 units
but 780 spins!
highest bet 6 units
play time 1h 50 min.
Maybe if we at any change of color add 1 unit progressively (means first change we add 1 unit, second change we add 2 units, third change we add 3 units.....till we are up to highest pick or over) it would be better?!
It reminds me on Winkel ;)
Quote from: GLC on Oct 22, 03:27 PM 2011
This is a static bet.
Bet 1 unit on Red
Bet 1 unit on Odd
Bet 1 unit on High
Bet 1 unit on 1st Dozen
Bet 1 unit on Middle Column
Win Target = 20
stop-loss = -100
or play the opposite
1 unit on Black
1 unit on Even
1 unit on Low
1 unit on 3rd dozen
1 unit on Right column
No real need to move between the two bets, but if you like to follow some kind of pattern, go for it.
If you get down -10 go to 2 units on each spot
If you get down -30 go to 3 units on each spot
If you get down -60 go to 4 units on each spot
If you get down -100, stop, take a break.
I recommend risking no more than 200 units per day.
This is a very stable bet.
The backbone of this system is 1 unit on Red, Odd, 2nd column.
Or Black, Even, 3rd Column
For only 3 units, you can play this variation and it performs just as well. Although maybe a little more volatile.
Enjoy
GLC
Are you betting on all locations?
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This is a very stable bet.
The backbone of this system is 1 unit on Red, Odd, 2nd column.
Or Black, Even, 3rd Column
I agree George. This is very good bet placement... especially on NoZero with 0.10 units (10 cent)
Thank you.
Played with a +1/-1 progression for each bet (depending on win/loss of each bet) and *importantly* ALWAYS resetting to 1-1-1 when level or ahead is producing good results for me.
Update: Yes. Seems good. 3 more winning sessions of +10 euro each and using 0.10c units.
Cheers,
A.
Quote from: atlantis on Oct 23, 10:53 AM 2011
I agree George. This is very good bet placement... especially on NoZero with 0.10 units (10 cent)
Thank you.
Played with a +1/-1 progression for each bet (depending on win/loss of each bet) and *importantly* ALWAYS resetting to 1-1-1 when level or ahead is producing good results for me.
Update: Yes. Seems good. 3 more winning sessions of +10 euro each and using 0.10c units.
Cheers,
A.
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atlantis,
are you raising the u bet for the losing location every losing spin or only after 6 spins depending on the win/loss ratio?
vundarosa
I'm just going to try testing using George's switch colour technique after 6 losses (raising by 2 units)
Thanks for this one
BW
Quote from: warrior on Oct 23, 09:53 AM 2011
Are you betting on all locations?
Correct Warrior. 1 unit on each location.
If you play the Red Odd and middle column on Bet voyager non-zero, you have an exactly even bet.
In other words, if you calculate how much you win if each number hits starting at 1 and ending at 36. You will have won 28 units and lost 28 units. That's an even shot, but the advantage, I think, over just betting Red or Black is that you can hit 3 locations at once and win 4 units. The most you can lose on any bet is 3 units.
We seem to always get up a good amount at some point. Even when we get down, a couple of good hits can jump us back up really quickly.
I haven't taken the time to calculate our +/- with the 5 locations, but I think they will be just as good.
No-zero is the way. It's pretty sluggish when you add a zero. Still it seems to win but not so well.
Cheers,
GLC
Quote from: vundarosa on Oct 23, 12:09 PM 2011
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atlantis,
are you raising the u bet for the losing location every losing spin or only after 6 spins depending on the win/loss ratio?
vundarosa
Hi vunderosa,
I increased the losing sides and reduced the winning sides by 1u (0.10) after each bet/spin UNLESS I was ahead or level overall in which case reset to 1-1-1.
Example:
I am playing red/odd/dozen 2. Start@ 1-1-1 (0.10c - 0.10c - 0.10c)
29B Lww +2 ; stay at 1-1-1
6B LLL -1 ; up to 2-2-2
32R wLw +3 down to 1-1-1
27R wwL +4 stay at 1-1-1
2B LLw +4 stay at 1-1-1
5R : +8 stay at 1-1-1
16R wLL +7 up to 1-2-2
12R wLL +4 up to 1-3-3
26B LLw +6 now bet 2-4-2
19R wwL +10 now bet 1-1-1
(edited - sorry for mistakes and typos - but you get the idea...)
A.
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I am playing red/odd/dozen 2. Start@ 1-1-1 (0.10c - 0.10c - 0.10c)
29B Lww +2 ; stay at 1-1-1
6B LLL -1 ; up to 2-2-2
32R wLw +3 down to 1-1-1
27R wwL +4 stay at 1-1-1
2B LLw +4 stay at 1-1-1
5R : +8 stay at 1-1-1
16R wLL +7 up to 1-2-2
12R wLL +4 up to 1-3-3
26B LLw +6 now bet 2-4-2
19R wwL +10 now bet 1-1-1
I now see that bet placement was printed incorrectly. I played red/odd/column2 and not red/odd/dozen2 as originally stated above. Hope it makes sense now!
Anyway, still working good. :)
A.
My apologies for any confusion.
Quote from: atlantis on Oct 23, 05:38 PM 2011
I now see that bet placement was printed incorrectly. I played red/odd/column2 and not red/odd/dozen2 as originally stated above. Hope it makes sense now!
Anyway, still working good. :)
A.
My apologies for any confusion.
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hi A,
got it thx!
so it seems you're playing a 1-1-1 combination instead of 1-1-1-1-1
vundarosa
george any inkling on double zero roulette?
Tom my friend, I think this is not so good on double zero. I'm talking about the 1-1-1 bet only but the math applies to the 1-1-1-1-1 bet also.
If we go through all possible numbers we get +28 on the ones that give us a plus.
On a non-zero we get -28 units on the numbers that cause us to lose.
That makes it a wash.
If we throw in the 2 zeros, when they hit we lose 3 units on the 1-1-1 bet and 5 units on the 1-1-1-1-1 bet. That means on the 1-1-1 bet we go from +28 vs -28 with no zeros to +28 vs -34 when we add in 2 zeros.
Those extra 6 units or for the 1-1-1-1-1 it's 10 units I think make it a loser on double zero.
It's an even bet on non-zero, but with good money management we should be able to squeak out a few chips on a regular basis. We just have to know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.
Didn't someone mention some backdoor method for US citizens to be able to play for real money at BetVoyager?
I think Adulay had some positive things to say about that. Maybe even Proofreader.
Cheers,
George
was afraid that, that would be the answer:) oh well
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Didn't someone mention some backdoor method for US citizens to be able to play for real money at BetVoyager?
Backdoor method has now been officially
'welded shut' mate.......... I feel for U US chaps... maybe 1 day eh!
Ur government does not like to see money leaving Ur Wide Shores. :'(
Atlantis, why not take advantage of the uneven cloth setups?
Combination #1: Red-Odd-3rd Column or #2: Black-Even-2nd Column. If you see more reds on scoreboard bet combination #1, it blacks bet combination #2.
Clever progression would make the strategy strong.
Hermes
Quote from: atlantis on Oct 23, 05:38 PM 2011
I now see that bet placement was printed incorrectly. I played red/odd/column2 and not red/odd/dozen2 as originally stated above. Hope it makes sense now!
Anyway, still working good. :)
A.
My apologies for any confusion.
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started playing at +1 on loss -1 on win
this could work well with a more dynamic bet. I then split the losing bets to the more dominant sides; had this section earlier on:
BET RED-ODD-2ndCOL
22 LLL -3 ; 2-2-2
28 LLL -9 ; 3-3-3
33 LWL -12 ; 4-2-4
11 LWW -6 ; 5-1-3
9 WWL -3 ; 4-1-4
21 WWL -2 ; 3-1-5
18 WLL -5 ; 2-2-6
15 LWL -11 ; 3-1-7
7 WWL -15 ; 2-1-8
16 WLL -26 ; 1-2-9
36 WLL -37 ; 1-3-10
33 LWL -45 ; 2-2-11
14 WLW -23 ; 1-3-9
7 WWL -28 ; 1-2-10
25 WWL -35 ; 1-1-11 SPLIT
31 WLL -47 ; 4-4-4
18 WLL -51 ; 3-5-5
28 LLL -64 ; 4-6-6
23 WWW -42 ; 3-5-5
19 WWL -39 ; 2-5-5 split
28 LLL -51 ; 4-6-5 split
19 WWL -46 ; 4-5-5 split
17 LWW -35 ; 5-4-4
9 WWL -30 ; 4-4-4
19 WWL -26 ; 3-4-4
32 WLW -19 ; 3-4-3
15 LWL -21 ; 4-3-4
31 LWL -26 ; 4-4-4
15 LWL -30 ; 5-3-5
9 WWL -27 ; 4-4-4
0 LLL -39 ; 6-6-6 UP 2U
0 LLL -57 ; 9-9-9 UP 3U
5 WWW -21 ; 4-4-4
2 LWW -9 ; 3-3-3
23 WWW +3 ; 1-1-1
32 WWW +7 ; END
vundarosa
Isnt this (the original idea) roughly the same as putting 15p on 1,3,5,7,8,9,11,12,14,17,19,20,21,23,26,27,29,32,35, only in this case 12,14,17,20,26,27 wins, not break even.
Why are these numbers so significant? Why are we betting on them?
Actually, if you say how many win and how many don't win in your system, only 13 show a profit.
Hi Vunderosa,
That was an unlucky session you posted and it took some time to realize a profit. But it did work.
I am going to suggest to keep everything the same except now only increase the column bet after each 2 consecutive losses instead of after each loss...
I will see how it fares and post a session result.
BTW, I would not play this on a 0 table as you did - only NoZero!
A.
vundarosa, it was a splash of 3rd column if you would play red-odd-3rd column.
What about +1 on win and -1 on loss? The column change after 2 results. I didn't test it.
Hermes