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Title: How do you bet?
Post by: nottophammer on Oct 12, 10:04 AM 2016
Some waffle first.
It's a mother-in-law day.
It was a day not enabling me to bet like i would have liked to.
But whilst waiting i went in to the betting shop.
So with unknown time before a phone call to pick them up, what way do i pass the time? i tried using Vaddi, 8 number bet.

But the ? how do you bet?, well theres this old woman who i've seen a few times and she always bets 28 to 36, 4 corner bets, with different values. This is RNG, well the marquee shows her last 11 spins all from 1st 18, i said you've been unlucky with the last 11 spins all in 1st 18, no comment, i've tried speaking before, but shes so rude and i'd say, thick, to be playing such a bet.
Well Vaddi way is going no where, 28 spins, 2 hits and last 12 spins covering last 8 spun not hit, but not losing to much around £10 using .20p units, even betting the hot #'s as well is not hitting. Watching how the corner bet is going, no good still the 1st 18 are hitting.

What i should have done is watched her spins to see how the 37 spin cycle was going, was the RNG avoiding her corner bet, 1st 18 is repeating

I'll see if i can find the betting slip with my spins, its in the door holdall, see if i was getting 1st 18 #'s as its RNG.
Title: Re: How do you bet?
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 27, 12:51 PM 2016
Mogul theres plenty of washing here,so you might want to leave now  :lol:

If any have watched KTF, you'll know its airball, but we're getting a nice set of games now, 357 actually.
There'd be a few who will go along with 15 0x's in spins 11-40, and 30.5 0x's in 60 spins. Well 15 is half of the 30, the 30.5 is also half of the 60 spins.

So out of curiosity what would happen if you was to bet after spin 10, for repeat, as they are cheapest. The ? is do you bet every even spin or odd, could wait to see what spin 11 is, lets use Mortagon #'s from today.



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Okay so flat betting every odd spin to be a repeat would get 15 wins in spins 11-60, i'll let you add up the cost, but 15 wins is 540
Title: Re: How do you bet?
Post by: denzie on Dec 27, 01:10 PM 2016
Notto.....you ever tried coding KTF to see what happens?   ;)
Title: Re: How do you bet?
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 27, 02:02 PM 2016
I know what happens with KTF, it will lose, the idea is to show how the 0x come. On airball its been climb,climb, now its drop,drop,drop. it seems quite strange that it looks like a mountain.
Different with Mortagons #'s from Dragonara, different to the dublinbet he use to post.
So is live wheel better, than airball, see some dodgy spins, ball bounce out of pocket then the next pocket, then comeback on its self, is it those little blasts of air ??
The chart gets better once Dragonara start to be played.
Title: Re: How do you bet?
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 27, 02:14 PM 2016
Here is the Jackpot mountain  :question:
Title: Re: How do you bet?
Post by: denzie on Dec 27, 02:27 PM 2016
Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 27, 02:02 PM 2016
So is live wheel better, than airball, see some dodgy spins, ball bounce out of pocket then the next pocket, then comeback on its self, is it those little blasts of air ??
The chart gets better once Dragonara start to be played.

Nope. That's a real fallacy imo. The thing is if we win then it's all ok. Even if the ball jumps out of pocket in a strange looking way straight in yours. But when it's the other way around. ..... then people get suspicious.

Live...Airball...rng.....for me they all produce the same results in a fair and government controlled casino.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: How do you bet?
Post by: nottophammer on Dec 27, 03:16 PM 2016
Yes Den
Like the bookies FOBT, they play fair. The averages from the average document go in line, it's like Winkel said as long as LOTT is present then it should play fair.
Another good tracker is countback after spins 1-10, mark Winkels points 13,25,37 what could show at 37th spin? but those pointers help with following the trot.
Yesterday on MPR spins 11-20 10,0x's, but then to balance the repeats come to bring the trot back in line.
Its like hotties they seem to like to go 2 to 3 after 20th spin, so is it a case of wait, if none have gone 3 before 20th then is it time to start betting the 2's to go 3, if already hit before 20th, would it be better to reset?
Title: Re: How do you bet?
Post by: denzie on Dec 27, 06:53 PM 2016
Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 27, 03:16 PM 2016
Yes Den

Its like hotties they seem to like to go 2 to 3 after 20th spin, so is it a case of wait, if none have gone 3 before 20th then is it time to start betting the 2's to go 3, if already hit before 20th, would it be better to reset?

Nope. I don't wait. The math is rock solid with the right progression  (positive).  It really is !
Title: Re: How do you bet?
Post by: Steve on Dec 28, 02:24 AM 2016
If the odds don't change then progression is just a bunch of independent bets with the same odds and payout. Progression cannot make a winning system.
Title: Re: How do you bet?
Post by: Mortagon on Dec 28, 04:11 AM 2016
The debate continues…


,,Just tried the pinwheel basics, meaning you bet on 012, 102, 210 etc to hit on the dozens with the same result. It is not the pinwheel bettingselection that makes it work, but the penthouse progression.”

Bassie
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„Kimo Li in his own words  does not   go for the " lomg run" according to my interpretation that  he does not   want  to exceed 12 spins during one session.
However he is mum on loss limits  and  replaying  winnings.Two vital components of the MM holy grail. No dpubt  in my mind that he  has developed a solid exit strategy.’’

Tamino
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15536.msg134680#msg134680
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Bassie,
It is the progression that makes it work. Like I said, I leave it to the math gals and guys. So, thelaw, math guy/gal, show your math skills. How would you capitalize on the example I posted? Bassie already figured it out, progression, a sophisticated progression. Tamino, figured out that there is an exit strategy. Collectively, I believe you guys will break the code.

Kimo Li
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